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Flat Earth Debate / Re: On circumnavigation.

« Last post by 9 out of 10 doctors agree on Today at 01:26:31 PM »

And stars are the same way.  They move in the sky anyway, regardless of round or flat earth model.  Round earth they rotate in the sky around a central point (cause the earth rotates) and they move aross the sky at the same time because the earth revolves around the sun, thus moving it's position relative to the Earth.

Actually, they move around 2 central points.

In other words...

You can totally travel in a giant circle while thinking you're going straight.

What if I'm traveling in a circle around Antarctica? You haven't answered that.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Using airline flight data.

« Last post by Westprog on Today at 01:07:14 PM »

Yes, but what goes on for an FE'er when presented with (what I think) is a sound argument?  Do they just dismiss it because they know better?  Do they roll their eyes and get annoyed that someone can be so seriously deluded?  I doubt they are cowering in fear that someone has finally caught them out.

What is the source of their belief?  It doesn't seem to be religious.  Do they all come to it the same way?

This is the useful and important part of being on this site. It's not to confirm to ourselves that the world is round - that's a given. It's to find out how people can hold irrational beliefs in the face of opposing evidence, because that has a big effect on the (round) world we live in. There's no "debate" going on here.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: On circumnavigation.

« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 01:06:47 PM »

Guys guys remember...

To sail or fly in a straight line, you typically use a compass.
So when said compass starts showing you're veering off course, even if you haven't changed your steering, you will correct.  It's pretty normal.

And stars are the same way.  They move in the sky anyway, regardless of round or flat earth model.  Round earth they rotate in the sky around a central point (cause the earth rotates) and they move aross the sky at the same time because the earth revolves around the sun, thus moving it's position relative to the Earth.

In other words...

You can totally travel in a giant circle while thinking you're going straight.

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Technology & Information / Re: Ordered a new computer

« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 12:56:20 PM »

Eh, heat pipes usually means it's got one or two central fans that blast air out over the fins.  Alot of laptops use this since they want heat to run out of the side and not the bottom. (since bottom means more heat buildup or a hot lap) 

Still, hope you're satisfied with it once you get it. 

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Live Stream

« Last post by Pete Svarrior on Today at 12:52:34 PM »

By the way, if this wasn't in Birmingham I'd be quite tempted.
But Birmingham is a proper shit-hole, there would have to be a very good reason for me to go there and this doesn't qualify.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. However, I would argue that if you're going to rely on petty excuses to avoid finding out why you're wrong, perhaps you shouldn't so vehemently argue that you're right.

-This doesn't happen in the UK
-Yes, it does, here's an upcoming event
-Oh, but that takes place in a baddie-no-no city, that doesn't count

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Live Stream

« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on Today at 12:49:56 PM »

I've seen no evidence of that in the UK although admittedly I tend not to go round asking people.

That, once again, is because you actively don't want to find out. If you change your mind, you still have two days to register for the Birmingham FE convention

By the way, if this wasn't in Birmingham I'd be quite tempted.
But Birmingham is a proper shit-hole, there would have to be a very good reason for me to go there and this doesn't qualify.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Using airline flight data.

« Last post by pinecone on Today at 12:49:38 PM »

It's clear that most of the people on this board are here to debunk FE.  I'm interested in their motivations.  Do they think they're going to change minds?  Is it the challenge?  Have they just picked a group they can easily ridicule?

Some died in the wool FErs will never change their stance, they have too much stake in FE, the cognitive dissonance is too strong. But I like to think other people browsing the site will see the FE arguments for what they are.
I guess I just think truth is important.

Yes, but what goes on for an FE'er when presented with (what I think) is a sound argument?  Do they just dismiss it because they know better?  Do they roll their eyes and get annoyed that someone can be so seriously deluded?  I doubt they are cowering in fear that someone has finally caught them out.

What is the source of their belief?  It doesn't seem to be religious.  Do they all come to it the same way?

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Live Stream

« Last post by Pete Svarrior on Today at 12:48:21 PM »

Interest in FET is growing. That doesn't mean belief in FET is growing.

Indeed. The two happen to be occurring simultaneously, but no causal link is implied.

Further, while traffic to this site is up, other FET sites I looked up were actually down. Is there some consolidation happening?

It's more of a shift to other forms of communication than consolidation. Our growth on this website has been steady, but between social media, real-life meetups and small local groups forming, I would argue that the heart of the FE movement is as decentralised as ever.

Interest in it is certainly growing, I never disputed that. I guess that means that the movement itself will grow because "x" percent of people who are interested might see some merit

Indeed.

If it is then we're that's a pretty damning indictment of our education system.

You know, it's possible to have a conversation without you saying "I think erf round" every other sentence. It's okay, you're a RE'er, we haven't forgotten.

You have the Analytics stats for this site, I guess. And maybe that's going through the roof. But look who is actually posting, it's mostly round earthers.

It takes a very specific kind of individual to post on a forum that's so rife with hecklers (especially ones with so little good will), or even to publicly argue for an unpopular idea. A lot of our communication happens away from the eyes of the RE peanut gallery. It's not the way I like to do things, but who am I to tell others what to do?

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Live Stream

« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on Today at 12:42:48 PM »

You're copping out. You started out by objecting to the suggestion that FET is growing. Now that you've been provided with evidence, you're shifting the focus to whether or not you think it's of any significance.

Interest in it is certainly growing, I never disputed that. I guess that means that the movement itself will grow because "x" percent of people who are interested might see some merit in what I will charitably call the "arguments" of the movement.
But I would suggest that "x" is very small. I said before that:

I think you're massively over-stating the acceptance of flat earth belief, there's a lot of interest in it, I'm interested, but that's not the same thing.

I pretty much stand by that. I'm not buying "exponential growth" or "the tide is turning".
If it is then we're that's a pretty damning indictment of our education system.
You have the Analytics stats for this site, I guess. And maybe that's going through the roof. But look who is actually posting, it's mostly round earthers.

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Flat Earth General / Re: NASA Live Stream

« Last post by StinkyOne on Today at 12:35:47 PM »

Interest in FEH is growing. That doesn't mean belief in FEH is growing. I've mentioned this site to several people and they had all heard that there are still misguided individuals that think the Earth is flat. Some even knew details of the hypothesis by googling it. Not a single one thought it was real. Many laughs were had. Further, while traffic to this site is up, other FEH sites I looked up were actually down. Is there some consolidation happening? The jury is still out, but to claim the "majority is rapidly shrinking" is a bit premature. I'd put money on the fact that this will eventually fade as all conspiracy theories do.