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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2014, 11:42:09 PM »
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The actual video cuts before the beheading, so whether or not this actually happened is still up for debate.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2014, 12:08:30 AM »
The full video is here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc1_1408481278

You don't see the entire process, but you do see the result. His head's definitely off.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2014, 12:44:54 AM »
These guys really love to cut off heads.

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2014, 12:46:47 AM »
This one pales in comparison to the Russian beheading video released a while ago. But it's still fucking sick, if it's real.


I have some doubts about the validity of the video. That guy looks like he's in pretty good shape, no bruising, scars, or anything... and he's been held captive for 2 years now (?). I thought ISIS was supposed to be hardcore? Yet they cut the video before the beheading. What's that about? This seems like Hollywood tom-foolery created as an excuse for Murka to put more troops back in that hell hole.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2014, 12:56:45 AM »
That video is meant for mass distribution. It's supposed to convey a message. 1-2 minutes of some guy hacking away at a spine with that tiny knife would mess up the momentum of the video. The person doing the hacking also usually looks like an idiot while they're doing it. We've seen this kind of editing before in similar videos.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2014, 01:06:59 AM »
Surely the Qur'an doesn't approve of slow and poorly done decapitations?
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2014, 01:42:44 AM »
Surely the Qur'an doesn't approve of slow and poorly done decapitations?

I'm not sure they care
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2014, 01:44:54 AM »
Surely the Qur'an doesn't approve of slow and poorly done decapitations?

I'm not sure they care

Yeah, I didn't figure but it goes to show even these cunts are hypocrites. It's all about power. I know this is obvious but I can't help but be bothered.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2014, 01:47:16 AM »
It is too fucked up not to be bothered by. Why can't we just nuke em again?

Oooh righttt "innocent people".

What about an armed take over of the entire Middle East?

They are tossing sticks and stones at the most powerful military in the world. What do they hope to accomplish from this? Are they asking us to leave them alone? Because murdering an innocent man in cold blood isn't the way to go about that.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2014, 01:49:25 AM »
It is too fucked up not to be bothered by. Why can't we just nuke em again?

Oooh righttt "innocent people".

What about an armed take over of the entire Middle East?

Great idea. We'll flood an area that covers millions of square miles with soldiers and tell everyone to behave, or else.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2014, 01:53:17 AM »
It is too fucked up not to be bothered by. Why can't we just nuke em again?

Oooh righttt "innocent people".

What about an armed take over of the entire Middle East?

Great idea. We'll flood an area that covers millions of square miles with soldiers and tell everyone to behave, or else.


Why not? Take over. Set up a new government. Root out Islamic terror cells. Build skyscrapers and cities to create new opportunities for the non-murderous sand people. Control by marshal law until everything calms down. I used to be all: "peace and love, violence is not the way" but lately I've found myself seeing the sense in murder for the greater good.

Do you have a better solution?

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2014, 01:56:43 AM »
It is too fucked up not to be bothered by. Why can't we just nuke em again?

Oooh righttt "innocent people".

What about an armed take over of the entire Middle East?

They are tossing sticks and stones at the most powerful military in the world. What do they hope to accomplish from this? Are they asking us to leave them alone? Because murdering an innocent man in cold blood isn't the way to go about that.

Welcome to the party. They've been cutting heads off of anyone they can capture, they've shared videos showing them lining up youths and shooting them in the back of the head, they've spread pictures of crucifixions carrying written messages courtesy of ISIS. They're a bunch of fucking savage fundamentalists, and I'm happy to see western nations stepping up to provide aid for those who they're murdering in addition to the US air strikes. Just recently, the Peshmerga managed to recapture a major dam in the region with the help of these air strikes.

Given their local support network, it's unlikely you could ever stamp them out. But with some help, the Iraqi's should be able to reclaim some land from them and significantly reduce their sphere of influence.

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2014, 02:07:27 AM »
It is too fucked up not to be bothered by. Why can't we just nuke em again?

Oooh righttt "innocent people".

What about an armed take over of the entire Middle East?

Great idea. We'll flood an area that covers millions of square miles with soldiers and tell everyone to behave, or else.


Why not? Take over. Set up a new government.

How do you set up a new government, and what kind of government? A democracy? You can't force democracy on people. That has never worked. Democracy has to grow naturally.

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Root out Islamic terror cells. Build skyscrapers and cities to create new opportunities for the non-murderous sand people. Control by marshal law until everything calms down. I used to be all: "peace and love, violence is not the way" but lately I've found myself seeing the sense in murder for the greater good.

Apart from building new cities, isn't this pretty much what we already tried and failed to do?
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2014, 02:12:43 AM »
We obviously didn't try hard enough.

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2014, 02:18:24 AM »
Why not? Take over. Set up a new government. Root out Islamic terror cells.
Yes, because that's worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan. ::)
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2014, 02:23:40 AM »
Why not? Take over. Set up a new government. Root out Islamic terror cells.
Yes, because that's worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan. ::)

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2014, 10:17:48 PM »
Its a nice idea by UKIP, but I'm a regular guy. Not a politician, not a lawyer, not a human rights expert.

And yet I know that
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You can't make British people stateless by removing their passports, no matter how popular and sensible the idea might seem. Why doesn't Farage at least consult with some legal experts before announcing new policies that he can't deliver?

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2014, 10:21:09 PM »
I just thought you might like to see it. Do people who abuse human rights on the level of the I.S. deserve to keep their human rights in topic when discussing whether or not they should get to keep their citizenship? Nope.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2014, 10:23:10 PM »
I'd say anyone who commits a crime should forfeit their human rights, but that doesn't stop lawyers securing Xboxes and voting rights for inmates.

The law is an arse and all that.