Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #700 on: September 03, 2016, 11:18:48 AM »

Beyond that, we're pretty good for the next few billion years.

The scholarly world assumed that in some hundreds of millions of years the heat of the sun would be exhausted, and then, as Flammarion frightened his readers, the last pair of human beings would freeze to death in the ice of the equator. But this is far off in the future. In view of modern knowledge that heat is discharged in the process of breaking up atoms, scientists are now prepared to credit the sun with an immense reserve of heat. The fear, if any, is focused on the possibility that the sun may explode; a few minutes later the earth will become aware of this, and  soon thereafter will no longer exist. But the one end, that of freezing, is very remote; the other end, that of explosion, is very improbable; and the world is thought to have billions of peaceful years ahead. It is believed that the world has gone through eons of undisturbed evolution, and equally long eons are before us. Man can go far in such a span of time, considering that his entire civilization has endured less than ten thousand years, and in view of the great technological progress he has made in the last century.

The average man is no longer afraid of the end of the world. Man clings to his earthly possessions, registers his landholdings and fences them in; peoples carry on wars to preserve and to enlarge their historical frontiers. Yet the last five or six thousand years have witnessed a series of major catastrophes, each of which displaced the borders of the seas, and some of which caused sea-beds and continents to interchange places, submerging kingdoms, and creating space for new ones.
Cosmic collisions are not divergent phenomena, or phenomena that, in the opinion of some modern philosophers, take place in defiance of what is supposed to be physical laws; they are more in the nature of occurrences implicit in the dynamics of the universe, or, in terms of that philosophy, convergent phenomena.

I. Velikovsky (Worlds in Collision)

Here are two works which will help you to understand that there have been major geological cataclysms in the past 5000 years (official chronology of history):

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #701 on: September 22, 2016, 06:35:05 AM »

If there was no Isil in the middle east right now, the territory previously held by the islamic state would be taken over by the Kurds.

It seems that there two main factions of the US government fighting in Syraq: the Pentagon which does support the Kurds, the CIA which helps several islamist fronts.

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #702 on: September 23, 2016, 09:46:53 AM »

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #704 on: September 26, 2016, 12:20:39 PM »

The SAA launches an all out attack on Aleppo:

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #705 on: October 01, 2016, 06:58:01 AM »

Cui bono? Why such an amazingly crazy fury during 6 years (longer than both world wars) for a country like Syria (relatively small population, some oil but not in the big leagues). Greater Israel project? Pipelinistan projects from Qatar to go through Syria? Breaking the ‘croissant chiite’? A real envy to go to war with Russia but on neutral field if I can say?
Or maybe something else much bigger?

"On July 10th, 2002, neocon Laurent Murawiec, of the Hudson Institute and Committee on the Present Danger, was invited to speak before Richard Perle’s Defense Policy Board to explain that Saudi Arabia represented “the prime mover, the most dangerous opponent”, and to recommend that the U.S. army invade it, occupy it and dismember it. He summarized his “Grand Strategy for the Middle East” by these words: “Iraq is the tactical pivot. Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot. Egypt the prize”.

All these wars and threats of wars under false pretexts in the wake of 9/11 betray a desire to inflame conflicts in the Middle East rather than to control resources, let alone encourage stability. Michael Ledeen himself declares in his article “The War on Terror will not end in Baghdad” in the Wall Street Journal, on September 4th, 2002: “We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia: we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize”."

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #708 on: October 15, 2016, 06:57:47 PM »

Should Yemen use long range missiles/rockets to reach the Saudi oil facilities in full, the war could quickly escalate out of control.

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #709 on: October 18, 2016, 01:13:12 PM »

ISIS was originally a grassroots movement. It just so happened that some bakers of lavash bread, camel drivers, cattle herders and shepherds got together and decided to go and to conquer five modern sovereign states, because they are clearly the best camel drivers and sheep herders in the world.

It seems that if you tell this to any rational human being, that it’s not in a cartoon or fairytale, but in real life  that these bakers of lavash bread pounded into bits and pieces several countries with regular armies, with tanks, fighter jets, military intelligence, special forces, buses and bicycles…if you tell us all of these we would be laughing hard, because that’s impossible. And of course, this is impossible.

But, the InsteadOfOurMedia played with our minds so severely, that we actually believe this.

Isil, at its origins, strangely was linked to the Russian and Iranian secret services; its top military officers were actually Chechens, that is, Russian citizens.

And its original mission was to attack Saudi Arabia, the very reason the Saudis built the 600 mile wall in the north:

Yet, something happened along the way: Isil somehow was infiltrated by the Western intelligence agencies.

The main beneficiaries in the region now are the Kurds.

Two key events which occurred in 1979 can explain the current situation in Syria and Yemen; one of which was dealt with here:

The other one, the 1979 grand mosque seizure of mecca, is rarely remembered even by historians, and yet it provides the essential insights and information in understading what is really going on in the ME.

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #710 on: October 19, 2016, 12:26:58 PM »

Grand mosque seizure of Mecca, 1979:

The large bands of armed men who stormed Mecca and Medina in November 1979, had no idea (were not told) that the Saudis had been warned by the Soviet military intelligence service of the impending assault, and that the Saudis as a result had deployed ahead of time some 17,000 security personnel to deal with the problem.

But who could have planned such a revolt to take place at Mecca, using these attackers as a front cover?

It could not have been the Soviets, nor MI6 (Great Britain enjoyed a good relationship with the Saudis, even though it was left out of the Saudi oil fields deal after 1945), nor the CIA (the net price of Arab oil to petroleum companies of the USA was 5 cents a barrel, for 30 years, until king Faisal ended the deal).

And whoever planned the attack on Mecca was also heavily involved at that time in the American embassy takeover in Teheran.

Few historians understand that the plan to eliminate the Saudis and Khomeini (who was supposed to rule over Iran only for a couple of years) in 1979 was coming along very well, until the Soviets decided to interfere.

The plan was as follows:

a takeover of Mecca and Medina, while at the same time the oil fields of Saudi Arabia would be heavily bombarded

use these events to inflame Moslem rage against the West

followed by a huge deployment of American troops and equipment to Iran (using of course the hostages crisis as a cover), and actually take over the entire country, to be used as a base to attack the former Soviet Union

The only group of intelligence officers and generals who could have pulled this off was of course to be found within the Pentagon: they were ready to take both the Saudis and Khomeini out with no problem at all.

Fast forward 36 years into the future, and we find a very similar scenario developing in Syria and in Iraq: the Pentagon will act independently of the Executive Branch.

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #713 on: November 13, 2016, 01:53:13 PM »

“27 million Yemenis will get their food supplies thanks to their weapons, and the thousands of kilometers that separate them from their larger neighbor will not be immune to the economic consequences following the US-Saudi aggression”

Few Americans understand that the possibility of dealing with a Mike Pence presidency could become reality in the near future, under some definite number of scenarios.

Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #714 on: April 07, 2017, 05:59:27 AM »

Each and every promise delivered by Trump during the presidential campaign has been either broken or forgotten.

Is there a deep division/struggle/contest between different factions in the CIA and the Pentagon? A faction which catapulted Trump all the way to the White House, and another one which wants to start a war in Europe with Russia at any cost (see the preparations underway in Poland, Sweden, Ukraine, the Baltic states).

Are we to explain the latest airstrikes in Syria as a desperate attempt by the faction which sides with Trump to start a war before the other side has a chance to deliver something much bigger in eastern Europe?

Let us go back to the question I posed more than one year ago: why would the GOP put up with Trump in the first place? Are we just now beginning to find out the answer to this question?

How many people know that Resorts Intl. was actually Meyer Lansky's pet project?

Is he part of the Gnostic Illuminati, or just a front man for the very powerful secret societies which have ruled the United States ever since 1832?

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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #715 on: April 07, 2017, 03:44:19 PM »
Conspiracy drivel aside, I'm still interested in where you've managed to find all those dank Putin/Trump memes
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« Reply #716 on: April 07, 2017, 04:21:46 PM »
Conspiracy drivel aside, I'm still interested in where you've managed to find all those dank Putin/Trump memes
I've been asking as well... He's got the Putin meme market cornered.

...the very powerful secret societies which have ruled the United States ever since 1832?

hmm are sure it actually hasn't been since nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
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Re: ISIS and the Middle East
« Reply #717 on: April 12, 2017, 03:29:53 PM »
ISIS are Kadyrov's troops and ex-KGB (Bathists officiales trained and supplied by the Soviets)

Asad supplied the "resistance" with russian weapons and explosives, they murdered thousands of American and allied soldiers and who know how many irakis.

Look at this mapa, in sykes picot the russians got northern Iraq, they are taking it again, through their "little green men" like in Crimea, their ISIL

This muslim elite troops didn't go to Ukraine, they went south to Iraq and Siria.