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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 05:13:25 AM »
This sounds like the classic jingoistic argument of "if we don't get them now, they'll get stronger, and then they'll get us!"

The West has a terrible track record of dismantling bad regimes and leaving worse regimes in place. I doubt they'd do anything differently this time around.

Its less "They will get us" and more "They're pretty damn evil to their own people but they have nukes so we can't stop them from oppressing their people." Nor will internal revolutions work as said leaders are more likely to suicide than be dethroned.  ( And by suicide I mean nuke themselves and everyone nearby)


And personally, I'd either have S. Korea manage a new governement or, better still, China.  If only to give the N. Korean people a face they were told isn't evil.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 18, 2019, 10:53:12 PM »
[quote author=Pete Svarrior link
I don't support nuclear war and as far as I know, NK doesn't have anything more than a bomb or two.  Probably nothing that can reach America.

They have missiles that can reach Japan and Korea. Surely you can’t shrug that off?
Yes.  And Japan and SK have missiles that can reach NK.  I'm not sure said missiles can hold a nuke yet.

However, make note that if we actually stomped on the Un regeime years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  And the longer we wait, the better armed he'll be.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 18, 2019, 06:00:04 PM »
However, if Trump just up and said "Stop the human rights violations or we'll march in and kill you" I'd support him.
Dave, every now and then you come out and more or less say you support the idea of a nuclear war. Nuclear wars are terrifying, let's not have one.

I don't support nuclear war and as far as I know, NK doesn't have anything more than a bomb or two.  Probably nothing that can reach America.  Yes, they can lash out but at this point, they're just buying time.  They want sanctions but don't want to give up nukes.  So either way, no matter what, NK will have nuclear weapons and will never give them up because its the only chip they have.  So the west has nothing on them.  Nothing they want more.  And they will keep oppressing their people until someone goes in and topples the regieme.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 18, 2019, 04:42:21 PM »
https://nypost.com/2019/11/18/north-korea-says-it-wont-give-trump-a-summit-for-free/

Sounds like the honeymoon's over.

In some ways, I can understand why.  Trump is promising things no one cares about.  Certainly not NK.

However, if Trump just up and said "Stop the human rights violations or we'll march in and kill you" I'd support him.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 17, 2019, 05:21:46 PM »
So Trump is doing "part" of his annual physical at a hospital off site from the WH grounds.  And he's doing it early because he thinks that 2020 is going to be too busy.


So I had a thought:
What if Trump claims that his health is declining due to stress and blames it on the fake news/liberal media but also claims that they are intentionally trying to assassinate him via stress?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 15, 2019, 10:24:41 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/470652-bret-baier-says-trump-attacking-yovanovitch-could-be-article-of-impeachment

I just don't see the intimidation in the tweet. For one thing, it went out while she was testifying, meaning (regardless of the fact that Schiff read it to her during the questioning since how could Trump know he would do that) that it wasn't meant for her to see before giving her testimony.

Second of all, there's no threat, either express or implied. It's just Trump badmouthing the job she did, which I can absolutely see as being brought on by his frustration over the impeachment hearings.

I feel like as strong as the Democrats' case is, trying to frame every little thing he does as a crime can only end up backfiring on them in the court of public opinion.

Unless someone can show me what I'm missing Trump is probably exactly right that this tweet was nothing more than an expression of his first amendment rights.
I agree for the most point.  It is, however, slander in a sense.  And while he's not tampering directly with the witness, he is trying to discredit her in real time.  Is there such a thing as witness tampering by proxy?  Probably not.  Still, kinda dumb to do but that's Trump: Attack, attack, attack.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 12, 2019, 05:45:59 AM »
lhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/11/donald-trump-jr-walks-out-of-triggered-book-launch-after-heckling-from-supporters

lmao. What a turd.

Those were clearly fake supporters, actors, paid for by the Liberal Media to disrupt Trump Jr. 's speech.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: November 10, 2019, 10:51:14 AM »
Did they ever finish and/or commercially release this thing?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 07, 2019, 07:20:13 AM »
I am seriously baffled as to why this bothers them so much.  Just let the House impeach.  Put together a 'trial' in the senate.  Everyone considers the facts very carefully and then makes a determination as to whether the president is a Republican or not. 

The angle they'll almost certainly go with is that it was bad but not impeachable and besides there's an election a year from now.  Let the voters decide.

Because Trump would be marked as the third president impeached.  And he'd be in the same spot as Bill Clinton.  AND it would mean that future democrat presidents who behave like this can point to Trump and say "you didn't convict so its ok for me to do this."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 07, 2019, 04:45:26 AM »
Now he's colluding with Russia's enemies to illegally uphold the law.

lol, keep on trollin'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/politics/lindsey-graham-trump-administration-ukraine-policy/index.html

"There couldn't have been a quid pro quo because Trump and the people he has working for him are too incompetent to even know what quid pro quo is!"

Yeah, that's a reasonable argument for keeping this administration in place.  ::)

Grasping at straws.
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Yeah.  Straw grasping alright.  No wonder they're all deathly afraid of impeachment.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 06, 2019, 05:35:14 PM »
Just like Bill Clinton, am I right?
That was all fake.  And we know because he wasn't convicted.

However, for an innocent man, he sure is fighting hard.  I mean, does he think the republicans in congress can be swayed?
Has nothing to do with Bill Clinton.

The real story is the why these things take place.

All of this is smoke and mirrors to cover for another government shutdown.

The US cannot pay its debt and the Fed is no longer going to lend it money.

That is why there will be a civil war in this country.

Ummm.... You do realize that Trump and his party have been in control of the money, right?  What happened to the great economy?  The big tax cut law?  Etc...?
Ummm...you realize when Trump spent military funds on the wall, you were writing Democrats in the House had control over how the money was spent, right?

Regardless, neither party controls the money machine...that is controlled by international bankers, just like everything else.

And that is the real story, not covered by fake news.

Actually I said congress, not Democrats in the house.  Which is accurate.  However, if you recall, republicans had full control over the house, senate, and presidency in 2017 and 2018.

Also recall, the big tax cut law that was supposed to spur on the economy.  It did not.

Trump also started a trade war with China that he assured us was "easy to win".  Its hasn't helped much.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 04, 2019, 12:43:30 PM »
Just like Bill Clinton, am I right?
That was all fake.  And we know because he wasn't convicted.

However, for an innocent man, he sure is fighting hard.  I mean, does he think the republicans in congress can be swayed?
Has nothing to do with Bill Clinton.

The real story is the why these things take place.

All of this is smoke and mirrors to cover for another government shutdown.

The US cannot pay its debt and the Fed is no longer going to lend it money.

That is why there will be a civil war in this country.

Ummm.... You do realize that Trump and his party have been in control of the money, right?  What happened to the great economy?  The big tax cut law?  Etc...?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 01, 2019, 05:10:48 PM »
The US president has no jurisdiction in Ukraine so that bit is irrelevant.
I don't see where jurisdiction comes into this. The two countries have a treaty on mutual assistance in criminal matters. This investigation should be taking place in the Ukraine, because that's where the alleged criminal activity took place. And, if true, this activity would be of interest to the US (and could subsequently justify the inquiries you're supporting).

Of course, the default assumption should be that Biden Jr. is innocent (until proven guilty), but the process of proving or disproving that shouldn't be obstructed.

Yes, but the treaty is quite clear.  It is not "Hey, start an investigation for me.(especially one you already did and closed)." Its "Hey I have an investigation I need your help with.  Here's the relevant information."

So again, Trump needs to begin an investigation IN AMERICA before he can ask for help on it.

So the question I have is: why hasn't he?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 01, 2019, 04:34:46 PM »
Russia's enemies?
You'd think it's safe to conclude that a country whose territory you're illegally occupying is your enemy, or at the very least that they view you as an enemy.

Asking Ukraine to investigate the Biden's isnt upholding the law.
Why not? There's reasonable suspicion that the law has been broken, and that the original investigation may have been closed improperly (Note that this is separate from Trump's claim that Biden Sr. was involved).

Resuming that investigation and finding out whether or not the law has been broken (both in the original case nd in the case of the investigation's closure) sounds rather straight-forward to me. Opposing the investigation of a suspected criminal, to me, sounds like a difficult position to defend.

Oh.  Well, in fairness, he did block aide money allocated to fight Russia for a period of time.  Which earned him bipartisan backlash. 

Also: not sure its collusion as Ukraine gets nothing from it that wasn't already promised.  Its more like blackmail.


As for justice: The US president has no jurisdiction in Ukraine so that bit is irrelevant.  Now, if he wants to open up a formal inquery into Biden and his use of his office for personal gain, thats another matter and there are ways to do that.  None of which he did.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 01, 2019, 12:06:28 PM »
Man, I miss the days when Trump was a serial rapist and a Russian superspy. Now he's colluding with Russia's enemies to illegally uphold the law.

American politics is a gift that keeps on giving.

Russia's enemies?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 01, 2019, 11:14:57 AM »
So now Trump's cronies are attacking Democrats for being "secretive" about the way they're conducting things so far... complaining about the Democrats using a procedure that the Republicans happen to have been instrumental in putting in place. This is what you call "grasping at straws".

Also, there are republicans on the comittees that are interviewing.  So not so secret.
Also they are complaining because Pelosi is now making it all public.  Both interviews and transcripts of past interviews.  Guess they are afraid.  Not sure of what.  Not like Trump is gonna be convicted by his literal peers.
He won't be convicted because there is no crime or even a misdemeanor here.

The whole thing is fake.
Just like Bill Clinton, am I right?
That was all fake.  And we know because he wasn't convicted.

However, for an innocent man, he sure is fighting hard.  I mean, does he think the republicans in congress can be swayed?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 01, 2019, 06:50:49 AM »
So now Trump's cronies are attacking Democrats for being "secretive" about the way they're conducting things so far... complaining about the Democrats using a procedure that the Republicans happen to have been instrumental in putting in place. This is what you call "grasping at straws".

Also, there are republicans on the comittees that are interviewing.  So not so secret.
Also they are complaining because Pelosi is now making it all public.  Both interviews and transcripts of past interviews.  Guess they are afraid.  Not sure of what.  Not like Trump is gonna be convicted by his literal peers.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 25, 2019, 10:46:56 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467092-republicans-storm-into-house-hearing-to-break-up-trump-impeachment-testimony

hey remember when hillary was a traitor because some email had a C on it or whatever

Look, they are only storming into a restricted area to stop a legal interview because they love Trump.

These storming idiots pulled this short-sighted stunt because the inquiry is being held behind closed doors. The impeachment itself will be in public just like Bill Clinton. Then they'll be forced to defend all of Trumps bullshit. They'll wish it stayed behind closed doors.

Bill Clinton barely made it through the impeachment process because a blow job is not the same thing as sex and because he was a skilled trial lawyer. The Donald can't even effectively handle questions from the Press Corps without screwing up. Let's see him stand up to 10 hours of testimony under oath like Hillary did.

Trump couldn't even be interviewed by Robert Mueller. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 23, 2019, 10:09:49 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/467092-republicans-storm-into-house-hearing-to-break-up-trump-impeachment-testimony

hey remember when hillary was a traitor because some email had a C on it or whatever

Look, they are only storming into a restricted area to stop a legal interview because they love Trump.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 11, 2019, 06:12:00 PM »
Former U.S. Ukraine Ambassador Says President Trump Pushed For Her Removal https://n.pr/2AWPMJN

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