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https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/917523942/woman-charged-with-attempted-murder-after-driving-into-pro-trump-protesters

Oh look, Trump supporters blocking the road and being hit by a car.

Like seriously, you can't tell they weren't BLM until you saw the red hat and Trump flags.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 10:15:01 AM »
Summary:
Releasing his tax records would have resulted in showing evidence if tax fraud.

I can see why he'd wanna keep em secret.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 05:59:57 AM »
From NPR News
Trump Dismisses 'New York Times' Report That He Paid Little In Federal Income Taxes https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/917566141/trump-dismisses-new-york-times-reporting-that-he-paid-little-in-federal-income-t?sc=18&f=1001

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 04:25:23 AM »
Would you mind copy-pasting the article? Paywalls can suck it.

Summary:
He's paid no taxes for almost 15 years and like $750 in 2016 and 2017.
He writes off his debt due to losing alot of money every year.

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For me it's just a nice microcosm of American attitudes towards others in their society.  "You're in my way! Fuck you!" "But I believe in something so fuck YOU!"
All things aside, I can definitely agree with that take.
Agreed.  That is oddly accurate.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't pedestrians always have the right of way?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 26, 2020, 07:21:11 AM »
Trump is having three rallies today in three different states.



Joe Biden is having three naps today.
And?  I mean, best for him to be out so he his risk of getting sick is higher than him tweeting from his office all day.

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Yes, they refused to give private information to the federal government including info that is not relevant.  Like convictions, military history, social security numbers, date of birth, etc...  All of which they have anyway in other federal agencies.  So why ask for it?

Federal agencies don't have PII for voting records. To detect fraud you need to know information about who voted. There is no way to check anonymous data.
Yes.  Very useful data to know who voted and, based on the area, for who.  Makes it easy to stop them next time, right? ;)

But again, Trump already knew so .... Yeah.
Anyway, all you really need is names, DoB, and who voted.  Then check to see who voted multiple times in different areas.  Like that woman who voted on behalf of her mom. 

The issue they'll have is that any impactful fraud is going to be hard to detect.  But voter rosters are public so really all you need is that plus DoB and cross reference it with IRS records to determine if anyone on the list isn't a citizen, or dead.  Then send that list to the state and ask them to verify.  Easy peasy.  But they wanted criminal records, military status, social security bit, address.  Things they don't need.  Unless they think 3 million felons voted.

Also note: republican states also refused.  Maybe they cheat too?

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Simple question: if Obama wanted that info, would you want your state to provide your info to him?

I wouldn't care if the Obama whitehouse wanted the last four digits of social security numbers for CA voting records, like Trump's white house asked for, to detect possible voting fraud. Any actionable items from them would need to be verifiably real with the state records, obviously. I would prefer that the federal government regularly checks for voting fraud in a transparent manner, rigorous enough for a court of law. I can see why the democrats would care about hiding the possible voter fraud of their constituents, however.
I'm sure something could be setup.  But Trump definitely didn't do this bipartisan and not in a 'lets check this out as a precaution'.  This was an attack because his ego was hurt.  And if Republican states didn't bow to him, maybe that should tell you something.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: September 25, 2020, 06:03:59 PM »
Tom's not wrong.  Liberalism is what helped Found America.  So naturally the founding fathers were batshit crazy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2020, 09:38:52 AM »
It just sounds to me that you can't really explain to me why a politician should accept voter fraud.
If they win, why shouldn't they?  They won. 
If they lost, they would not.
Kinda easy logic there.

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And some smarmy answer for the other question. The federal investigation Trump initiated proves that he did care about voter fraud. The states refused to participate and it was closed. End of.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-dismantles-voter-fraud-commission-heres-what-the-controversial-group-did

States refused to cooperate, which is different than not finding anything. Just more media dishonesty.
Yes, they refused to give private information to the federal government including info that is not relevant.  Like convictions, military history, social security numbers, date of birth, etc...  All of which they have anyway in other federal agencies.  So why ask for it? 

Simple question: if Obama wanted that info, would you want your state to provide your info to him?

Also remember: Trump HAD THE PROOF!  He had all the evidence already.  He knew 3-5 million illegals voted for Hillary.  So why would they need anything else?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2020, 06:03:31 AM »
I did not claim that there was voter fraud in any particular election. I asked you guys simple questions which you are unable to answer and can only deflect on.

If there is voter fraud, why should a politician accept it?

Can you list out which politicians would accept voter fraud?

Please answer directly.
Donald J. Trump.
He would accept it if it means he won.
In fact, many politicians would accept it if they won and got away with it.  Why do you think they fight so hard against such accusations?  Trump stated, as a fact, that the 2016 election had fraud yet the investigation found nothing and closed without much of a peep.

So either
A) Trump lied.
B) He found some but he and republicans accepted it.

If you aren't going to answer my questions then I can only assume that you are accepting my position. No politician is going to accept voter fraud, so faulting Trump with that is just silly and dishonest.

Why can't you guys just be honest and make good arguments that you can double down on successfullly? If you don't have a good argument in your pocket then you should just keep your mouths shut.

I did answer.  I answered who and why.  First paragraph. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2020, 05:42:33 AM »
I did not claim that there was voter fraud in any particular election. I asked you guys simple questions which you are unable to answer and can only deflect on.

If there is voter fraud, why should a politician accept it?

Can you list out which politicians would accept voter fraud?

Please answer directly.
Donald J. Trump.
He would accept it if it means he won.
In fact, many politicians would accept it if they won and got away with it.  Why do you think they fight so hard against such accusations?  Trump stated, as a fact, that the 2016 election had fraud yet the investigation found nothing and closed without much of a peep.

So either
A) Trump lied.
B) He found some but he and republicans accepted it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2020, 04:45:43 AM »
Trump said there was massive voter fraud and a rigged election in 2016.  He literally said "I will only accept the results if I win."

And despite 4 years, he never found evidence of a rigged election or wide spread voter fraud. 

Now he's doing the same thing: crying wolf without evidence.  And if he loses now, do you think he'll magically find evidence of wide spread voter fraud this time?  When he hasn't found it yet despite saying its already there?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: September 24, 2020, 07:57:32 PM »
Business culture.  By aiming the son of the US VP was on their board, they appear both more legitimate and far reaching.  Which, for other Ukrainian business, that sounds like you're amazing and really have your shit together.  It was like taking a $30 shoe, giving it to a basketball player to wear, and selling it for $150 because "Famous basketball player wears our shoes so they must be good."

You think Hunter Biden has celebrity cache like Michael Jordan and that people will buy more Ukrainian gas because ... 'Hunter Biden'?

Gas is a global commodity. It isn't like a pair of shoes. It trades on the global markets and has a set price. You don't get more for your gas because 'Hunter Biden!'.

I fail to see how the inexperienced addition of the son of a US politician adds to your legitimacy nor do I see how your global company becomes more far reaching when people whisper in hushed tones 'Hunter Biden'.

If I was a Ukrainian Oligarch and my company was being investigated by the UK serious fraud office and all my assets were frozen ... What I'd be hoping is that by hiring the son of the US vice president, that VP might feel he owes me a favour and puts pressure on other nations and so they unfreeze my assets and the case mysteriously collapses. Which by complete coincidence is exactly what happened.
Clearly you don't understand business.

Name Dropping Biden is a big fucking deal.  Not because Hunter Biden is some kind of golden child of skill, but because he's got connections.  (or so you would think) 

And, reading further, apparently it was just that.  Not for business, of course, but to make the international community think they were super legit.  Not sure how the US VP managed to get a UK judge to rule a case was conjecture but... Ok.  I guess UK judges are super easy to manipulate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: September 24, 2020, 06:45:05 PM »
So why did Burisma Holdings hire Hunter Biden, please?

Please give me your reason for this occurrence and why this Ukrainian company gave away $millions to this particular individual in exchange for zero expertise, experience or labour.
Business culture.  By aiming the son of the US VP was on their board, they appear both more legitimate and far reaching.  Which, for other Ukrainian business, that sounds like you're amazing and really have your shit together.  It was like taking a $30 shoe, giving it to a basketball player to wear, and selling it for $150 because "Famous basketball player wears our shoes so they must be good."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: September 24, 2020, 05:26:21 PM »
Tom.

Tom.

I saw.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: September 24, 2020, 04:34:11 PM »
Republicans found there was no conclusive proof of wrongdoing by Biden in the Ukraine.

Wow what a surprise
Kind of is a surprise. When your idiot son gets $millions for being on the board of an oil and gas company and by his own admission knows nothing about oil and gas but your father is Vice-President of the USA ... yeah, that is a surprise there is no conclusive proof. I might also say conclusive proof might be a high bar to leap. It doesn't mean you aren't defending an absolute piece of shit human who sold his country out to enrich his family.

Thork has princials.  He only takes jobs he's qualified for, no matter the pay or offer.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 24, 2020, 05:50:57 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-campaign-reportedly-discussing-contingency-153100735.html

Trump's newest tactic to circumvent the democratic process.

This is another reason I have trouble viewing anyone who still supports Trump as "patriotic". The man wants to be emperor for life; he wants to start a Kim-style dynasty. How any patriotic American can not see that this is the opposite of what this country is supposed to stand for I'll never fathom.

If you support Trump you support the end of democracy. Is that really a good thing? Is that the side a patriotic American would choose?
Because the other side is evil and obviously cheating. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: September 23, 2020, 09:07:03 PM »
Republicans found there was no conclusive proof of wrongdoing by Biden in the Ukraine.

You mean not even Trump's party could find anything?  Oh man, all those 'experts' must be so disappointed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: NWO and its actors
« on: September 22, 2020, 05:26:09 PM »
I am part of NWO and let me tell you: we don't have actors.  People really are that crazy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 21, 2020, 03:42:34 AM »
Yes and?

Literally no one here is arguing otherwise.  We're just bitching because Republicans did not do their constitutional duty in 2016 but are very quickly doing it now. 

This was McConnell's statement from 2016. Tell me how he is being a hypocrite.



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Tom, when was the last time a SCOTUS vacancy occurred (prior to 2016) that was an election year where the WH and Senate majority were opposite parties?

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