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Flat Earth Media / 4% of Poles Believe the Earth is Flat
« on: July 21, 2021, 10:19:50 AM »
It would seem that the Polish Nationwide Research Group conducted research into Polish citizens' belief in "conspiracy theories" in late January 2021. The original source appears to be behind a paywall (and it wouldn't take my credit card - I swear I'm not that broke; I'll keep trying), but a couple of news articles in relatively reputable media have covered it as a story:

https://www.polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2021-02-26/11-proc-polakow-uwaza-ze-amerykanie-nie-wyladowali-na-ksiezycu-4-proc-ze-ziemia-jest-plaska/
https://wiadomosci.radiozet.pl/Polska/Teorie-spiskowe-w-Polsce.-4-proc.-wierzy-ze-Ziemia-jest-plaska.-11-proc.-nie-wierzy-w-ladowanie-na-Ksiezycu

Unfortunately, I was unable to find anything in English, but Google Translate seems to spit out a pretty reasonable translation for these.

Based on these articles, it would seem that:
  • 4% of Poles believe that the Earth is flat, significantly lagging behind the 11% of moon landing sceptics
  • The belief is particularly popular in smaller cities and towns, at 5.6%
  • The age group most likely to believe in a Flat Earth is around the age of 30, with just over 6% of believers
  • 5% of Law and Justice (PiS) voters believe the Earth is flat, in stark contrast to 0% among Polish People's Party (PSL) voters. Similarly, PiS voters are much more likely to believe that the moon landing was a hoax, with those voting for the Left Together (Lewica Razem) being least likely to follow this belief.

According to both articles, this poll was performed on a sample size of 1001 Polish adults, which is pretty impressive for such a niche subject. I hope we can get to the original source to see if there's more detail to get out of it. If anyone has more luck with it than I did, help would be very much appreciated.

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Flat Earth Community / MOVED: Flooding
« on: July 16, 2021, 10:04:08 PM »

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Flat Earth Investigations / MOVED: what is your weight?
« on: April 24, 2021, 09:52:30 AM »

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Flat Earth Investigations / MOVED: Have a video for you guys
« on: December 22, 2020, 06:40:07 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Political compass bingo
« on: December 06, 2020, 02:35:35 PM »
Do it, you know you don't have better things to do.

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Sadly, I have failed to earn a BINGO in any category - will you do better?

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Prison is a punishment that involves the removal of offenders from ordinary life.

Given that 2020 has had a serious lack of "ordinary life" for innocent people, all current prisoners should have their sentences increased by a year, in the interest of fairness for non-criminal members of society.

Discuss.

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Flat Earth Community / Round Earthers would like to censor the Internet
« on: September 29, 2020, 07:50:38 AM »
Of course they would. It's only natural for those in authority to double down when their authority is questioned. I'll leave the obvious snarky joke opportunity open for one of you.

Anyway, it would seem that Dr. Nigel Whittle, a healthcare expert from a consultancy that does everything is upset. He's not particularly clear about what he's upset with. He starts by talking about the fact that FE'ers exist (how dare they!), and that there is no doubt in his mind that they're wrong and dumb - nothing new here.

He then pivots, making sure to spend as little time describing his change of subjects as possible. Flat Earthers exist and they're uneducated, but you know who else exists and is uneducated? COVID19 conspiracists! Wow, people are burning masts, and look at all these crazy COVID19 theories floating about!

Dr. Whittle then reaches a conclusion, once again encouraging us not to think too much about how he got from point A to B. It might be a good idea to "better manage" the Internet to make sure that like-minded individuals don't talk to each other too much. The burden, nay, the responsibility is on YouTube and Facebook - they should vet our friends and make sure we follow the right guys, or at least that we don't follow too many of the wrong guys.

The short article ends with an invitation for discourse. They'd love to hear your views about this proposal! Just, y'know, make sure they're the right views. ;)

https://www.plextek.com/insights/coronavirus-and-flat-earth/

Of course, it's worth pointing out that while I'm sure Dr. Whittle is an expert in his fields (biochemistry, cancer research, and advancing medical innovations), he is absolutely nobody when it comes to Internet governance. In this particular case, he's acting like the very "armchair experts" he seems to want to curtail. The good news is that, for the same reasons, he probably won't get his way.

Ignoring the dystopian implications of a "better managed" Internet, and stepping aside from the FE vs RE disagreement for a second, I'd like to point out that these sort of initiatives universally backfire. When the Donald Trump subreddit got axed, it moved from a platform that had some control over the discourse to a platform that's entirely independent and which doesn't want to filter the content that was originally found to be problematic. When YouTube axed Alex Jones, his audience moved over to other media (again, the result was more Alex Jones, not less). When YouTube started discouraging FE videos, this led people who might potentially be convinced to actively seek out the content ("Wow, what are these terrible videos that YouTube is hiding from me?").

Perhaps if the super-enlightened scientific experts had an understanding of pop-sci concepts like the Steisand effect, they'd have an easier time maintaining their authority?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Terrible Political Memes
« on: September 20, 2020, 01:59:47 PM »
I've recently added myself to a few all-caps political fb groups. We're talking stuff like "BLOOMBERG FOR PURPOSE" (formerly "BLOOMBERG FOR PRESIDENT 2020") and "TRUMP SUPPORTERS UK".

In case you're not familiar, these groups can often produce some amazing content (unless they get overrun by trolls, at which point it becomes a bit boring). I will use this thread to post occasional highlights, basically creating a dump of terrible political memes.

Please feel free to join me, but bear in mind that for this thread to be successful, we should follow a couple of guidelines:
  • Don't just post stuff you disagree with. If it's not a picture of Trump and Raegan hugging it out while Jesus is injecting himself with marijuana in the background, you're doing it wrong.
  • Don't discuss the merit behind the pictures. Most of them will include terrible hot takes which aren't worthy of serious consideration.

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Flat Earth Community / MOVED: New Here
« on: August 19, 2020, 06:32:42 AM »

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