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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #500 on: January 06, 2021, 06:55:24 PM »


Here's a map where half the US population is coloured, the other half left uncolored, by County. 143 of the height populated Counties comprise 50% of the population.

Win the right counties by a high enough margin, you win the popular vote.



Above is La county vs the number of smallest counties it takes to reach the same population.
The number of counties a candidate wins has no bearing on their success in winning an election.
This is WHY the US has the electoral college in the first place. Republicans would never win without it. And as problematic as it is, the concept is important.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #501 on: January 06, 2021, 07:02:55 PM »
That map basically proves that the more people you interact with daily (ie. High pop densities), the more likely you vote Democrat.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #502 on: January 06, 2021, 10:13:36 PM »
There's only a couple tiny things that arent shown in those pictures...

That teeny tiny pandemic that has gripped the world and killed nearly 400 000 Americans during the election cycle. So weird he couldnt fill rallies.

And the minor detail of the proportion of votes that went to Biden from big cities, and the record turnout of voters in those cities.

The problem with such assessments is that they are merely excuses without evidence. Excuses rather than positive evidence to show that such excuses have validity.

Did Joe Biden have overflow crowds of thousands of people cheering him on outside of his events, who couldn't get in, but went and stayed anyway to hear and watch what they could? Trump did.

Are there there any precidents for presidents getting such a low number of counties and record high votes for their time periods?

...is one of your claims actually that Biden holding small rallies is an indicator of fraud? Are we being that openly dishonest now?
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #503 on: January 06, 2021, 10:42:51 PM »
...is one of your claims actually that Biden holding small rallies is an indicator of fraud? Are we being that openly dishonest now?

I am surprised that this surprises you.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #504 on: January 06, 2021, 11:00:32 PM »
I'm used to Gish gallops full of nothing, not "evidence" that's literally "these crowd kept small but funny man win??" I'm not sure one can think critically and genuinely think that. It's just way more blatant than even I expected.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #505 on: January 06, 2021, 11:07:58 PM »
"The crowds were kept small" is just an excuse, FYI. How about thousands of people gathering outside of the venue just to be in his presence? Gathering to watch his plane land? Gathering to cheer him on? We've seen none of that.

So yes, lack of public support is evidence.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #506 on: January 06, 2021, 11:09:13 PM »
Wow. Mask off, I guess?
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #507 on: January 06, 2021, 11:11:04 PM »
"The crowds were kept small" is just an excuse, FYI. How about thousands of people gathering just to be in his presence? Gathering to watch his plane land? Gathering to cheer him on? We've seen none of that.

So yes, lack of public support is evidence.
Thanks for dropping the county number argument at least.

Why would there have been people gathering? The message from the Democrat team was always to stay home, listen to public health officials.

Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #508 on: January 06, 2021, 11:18:28 PM »
"The crowds were kept small" is just an excuse, FYI. How about thousands of people gathering outside of the venue just to be in his presence? Gathering to watch his plane land? Gathering to cheer him on? We've seen none of that.

So yes, lack of public support is evidence.
Evidence of what?
Trump has fanatical supporters. Biden doesn't.
That doesn't mean Trump has more people who will vote for him, simply that he evokes more extremes of support (and opposition).

With everything that's going on today, you still think you're on the right side of this?
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #509 on: January 06, 2021, 11:19:15 PM »
Quote from: Iceman2020
Here's a map where half the US population is coloured, the other half left uncolored, by County. 143 of the height populated Counties comprise 50% of the population.

Win the right counties by a high enough margin, you win the popular vote.

Your argument is just that a huge statistical anomaly is "possible". But the presence of absurd statistical anomalies is indicative of illegitimate election.

Wisconsin Counties:



Bellwether Counties:



https://nationalfile.com/data-trump-won-95-of-bellwether-counties-making-biden-win-statistically-improbable/

" “Out of 3,000 counties in this country, there are 19 that have a perfect track record since 1980 of voting for the successful presidential candidate,” Cortes noted. “Donald Trump, on November 3, won 18 out of these 19 counties. Could these bellwether counties really have gotten it wrong all at the same time?”

The corporate media has largely been unable to explain Trump’s dominant performance in bellwether counties, offering up only vague references to “more racially diverse populations” in response to the counties’ sharp contrast with a purported Biden victory. "
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #510 on: January 06, 2021, 11:28:50 PM »

Your argument is just that a huge statistical anomaly is "possible". But the presence of an absurd statistical anomaly is indicative of fraud.



https://nationalfile.com/data-trump-won-95-of-bellwether-counties-making-biden-win-statistically-improbable/

" Out of 3,000 counties in this country, there are 19 that have a perfect track record since 1980 of voting for the successful presidential candidate,” Cortes noted. “Donald Trump, on November 3, won 18 out of these 19 counties. Could these bellwether counties really have gotten it wrong all at the same time?”

The corporate media has largely been unable to explain Trump’s dominant performance in bellwether counties, offering up only vague references to “more racially diverse populations” in response to the counties’ sharp contrast with a purported Biden victory. "

This is absolute bullshit. I could easily build a list of so-called "bellwether counties" that would equally "prove" the 2016 election was rigged.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #511 on: January 06, 2021, 11:28:58 PM »
Your argument is just that a huge statistical anomaly is "possible". But the presence of absurd statistical anomalies is indicative of fraud.
No. The argument is that you don't understand statistics.
Evidenced by the fact that you didn't understand the video I posted which exposed the "one in a quadrillion" nonsense
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #512 on: January 06, 2021, 11:33:10 PM »
Your argument is just that a huge statistical anomaly is "possible". But the presence of absurd statistical anomalies is indicative of fraud.
No. The argument is that you don't understand statistics.
Evidenced by the fact that you didn't understand the video I posted which exposed the "one in a quadrillion" nonsense

Your video didn't understand the quadrillion claim either. It was clarified later in the that thread by another source. The author of that claim was right in what he specifically said, and people were interpreting it wrong.

Funny that you think you are a better expert than Rasmussen Reports, who promoted the following:

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #513 on: January 06, 2021, 11:36:39 PM »
Funny that you think you are a better expert than Rasmussen Reports, who promoted the following:
"the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters" is a lie.

With everything going on in Washington right now, you still think you're on the right side of this?
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #514 on: January 06, 2021, 11:41:50 PM »

Your video didn't understand the quadrillion claim either. It was clarified later in the that thread. The author of that claim was right in what he specifically said, and people were interpreting it wrong.

No. The author's math was technically correct, but there was no justifiable basis for the author to have performed that math on the voting data because the data populations were so drastically distinct.

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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #515 on: January 07, 2021, 12:01:32 AM »
This is absolute bullshit. I could easily build a list of so-called "bellwether counties" that would equally "prove" the 2016 election was rigged.

Good luck with that. These counties have been a known standard indicator for quite a while. Saying that they are wrong and so what is just admitting that there are anomalous results there.

https://mustreadalaska.com/how-could-the-bellwether-counties-get-it-so-wrong/

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Several counties in America are considered the “bellwethers,” the ones that nearly always vote for the eventual winner of the presidential race. And by “nearly always,” we mean it’s remarkable how accurate they are throughout history.

Maybe you are not being honest with yourself:

https://www.theday.com/article/20201202/OP04/201209860

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Trump is the first incumbent president in 132 years, since Grover Cleveland’s failed bid for re-election in 1888, to have increased his vote from his first election and not win. Trump collected more votes than any previous incumbent seeking reelection, receiving 11 million more votes than in 2016.

Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history, but he won a record low 17% of counties — yet Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes? If this doesn't at least make you  curious about the voting anomalies, you're simply not being honest.

This may be challenging for many to accept, but again this is not about Trump; it's about attaining a certain level of confidence moving forward in how we elect leaders. The most sacred right of citizenship must have transparency, otherwise, there can be no election peace.
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« Reply #516 on: January 07, 2021, 12:43:51 AM »
How could polls have gotten things so wrong when they did for so long? It’s almost like they don’t dictate the future. Weird. Now hopefully the totally peaceful and not authoritarian at all GOP can get it together long enough to lose while the country has some semblance of cohesion left.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #517 on: January 07, 2021, 12:44:24 AM »
Tom, do you actually think that bellwether counties are some sort of nexus to the nation's political leanings? That we can actually look at how these counties vote and scientifically determine how the entire nation will vote as a result? If the answer is yes, then I think you ought to offer some sort of explanation, because I think most rational people would agree that doesn't make any sense. And if the answer is no, then you should just accept that bellwether counties are fairly interesting phenomena that don't actually mean anything in a scientific or statistical sense. Weird patterns and coincidences form by happenstance all the time, and they stop happening all the time too.
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #518 on: January 07, 2021, 05:33:04 AM »
Tom, Trump changed everything.  Using pre-Trump data is irrelevant.  Might as well use a map of Pangea to navigate the ocean.

Also: Biden got REPUBLICAN VOTES because that's how bad Trump is.  Republicans literally chose him over their own party.

That is how he got more votes than ever.  (Also population grows, turnout was high, etc...)
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Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Reply #519 on: January 07, 2021, 07:17:22 AM »
"More Republicans voted for Biden this time. That's why Biden won a record low 17% of counties." - libs, apparently