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No one is doing that.Markjo is, by trying to "assert a negative". Again, assertions deal with truths, not falsities. I've already presented evidence to that fact, so unless you'd like to counter it with something credible, I'm going to consider this settled.
I'm sorry if you are unable to understand that it is possible to assert a negative claim and therefore incur a burden to support that negative claim.Yes, it's difficult to understand how you could use a word to mean its opposite without committing an error of some sort. So far, you have not succeeded.
And attacking a straw man won't make you right.You're right, I shouldn't waste my time attacking your straw man. Now, if you'd like to add something to this discussion, feel free to, but otherwise, please stop attempting to derail this thread.
You honestly think it's alright to murder a disobedient child?Well, it certainly solves the disobedience issue.
I negate your premise.Feel free to. It won't make you any less wrong.
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It is relevant, because saying, "I have looked and there is no evidence" is an assertion that in and of itself carries a BOP.How is it relevant to the subject of "Is it possible to prove a negative?"?
Assuming there is no evidence is not an assumption of falsehood. It is assuming that it is true that there is not evidence.Correct, but also irrelevant.
I got a mirror for free with some furniture I bought and it was chipped at the back so they gave me £40 off the mirror.Yes, I think my description of "doesn't actually happen" covers that
And this shows a distinction between a positive and a negative claim how? I can just as easily assert a negative claim as I can assert a positive claim.No, you can't. To assert means to state positively. Asserting a negative claim is like spending a negative amount of money - a cool abstract concept, but it doesn't actually happen.
I can know for a fact that there is no elephant in my backyard.No, that is you negating the assertion that there is an elephant in your backyard.
That is me making a negative claim, declaring positively, that there is no elephant in m backyard.
so do we now move on to what constitutes a claim and is questioning or picking holes in a claim, itself a claim?No, we're simply calling markjo out on his lack of understanding of English.
What about the sentence before the bolded one? It makes no distinction between positive and negative claims regarding the burden assumed by the one making the claim.Actually, it does quite clearly say that the burden of proof is on the person asserting the claim.
It's simply neater this way. The FAQ pages can actually have detailed explanations, with pictures and whatnot. Even with the contents thing, the page gets unwieldy quickly.The FAQ is not for detailed explanations. It can contain links to more detailed explanations if those exist, but it should consist of short questions and short answers. We're definitely not splitting the FAQ itself into dozens of small pages.
While you were on your year-long vacation we played with making the original FAQ into a wiki page like this. It didn't work very well.We did that before the wiki powergrab, by my specific request. It worked just fine until someone revamped the FAQ, and that was due to the content, not the layout.
Also, sorry. I was rather of the impression that the wiki was rather unofficial, since we don't currently have any angry noobs whatsoever and probably won't for quite a whileNot a problem, as long as we keep things tidy from now on. Part of the Wiki's purpose is to introduce people to the subject and invite them to the forum. It's linked to in our Facebook page, and some of our paid-for advertisements. Its effect is inhibited if we trash it up with personal experiments. It's also just a matter of principle, really.