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So buttons on your underwear...you think all the page views are due to bots?Obviously not all - I mean, we are viewing pages now. But Pete thinks that explains the increase in views.
Oh dear Lord.Is it? If it’s evident then there should be some evidence. Is there?AATW to lazy to look at the numbers for this site:
Also, back to the question of page visits - Google Analytics seems to think our page visits have been slowly decreasing, but not significantly so. Definitely not a 5x increase on there. Similarly, there has not been an increase in search traffic to the forum - that's basically a constant stream.
Of course, the former only captures people who allow Google Analytics to run, but the proportion of real humans there tends to stay pretty steady. So, my current hunch is that the huge increase SMF is seeing is purely bots.
Yeah. It's fairly easy to observe the shift in public conversation around the subject.Over what time period? Over 20 years? Well sure. 20 years ago this wasn't even a thing - or not one that I'd ever heard anything about.
After the many years of the naysaying and the supposed "deboonking", flat earth is enjoying an evident resurgence.Is it? If it’s evident then there should be some evidence. Is there?
"Everyone", in general, are also ignorant of exact DoD classification rules and guidelines.Which continues to be irrelevant.
Actually in the fuller statement he expands that he's embarrassed that he was associated with a vile journalistHe said "it's embarrassing, yes, we'll get to the bottom of it". The "this" clearly being, if you look at the interview, that Goldberg was included in the group.
It's not fine.Oh thank fuck, finally some progress.
The main problem is that the journalist involved is a known liarThe fact that the person who accidentally got added in to the chat is antagonistic to this administration and that no-one noticed he was in there makes this worse. Although luckily for Waltz, Goldberg may not be a fan of Trump but he has some integrity. You, of course, will dispute that. But let's look at the evidence. Goldberg didn't publish any of the details of the mission until the mission had finished. And he initially planned not to do it at all, he just flagged up that he'd been added in to the chat. He could have kept quiet - who knows, he might have been added in to other chats and seen more things, that would have been a useful source of information for a journalist. But instead he said what had happened so they could fix it. Then when the administration started attacking him and calling him a liar he was like "oh cool, so you'd be OK with me publishing the details?" and they said "er, rather you didn't old chap". After much deliberation he decided to publish given that the mission had been completed and he was being called a liar.
It's wild you think a journalist’s inclusion matters
Everyone thinks that it matters.The journalist might as well have been included in your weekly catch-up with your therapist.I'm British, mate. We don't have therapists, we talk to our friends. You should try it.
AATW is quite the expert concerning incompetence, Tom.I don't think you need to be an expert in anything to know that if you're going to set up a Signal group to talk about a live military operation then you probably shouldn't accidentally invite a journalist in there. I honestly don't think it matters if they were talking about the weather (which they were at one point, come to think of it), surely people at that level should be pretty careful in who they're saying things to. This incident shows a complete lack of competence and seriousness at the very top level of US government. Do you disagree?
thisisfine.jpgYou just keep telling yourself that, fella.
Yes, the Trump administration are all agreed that the Trump administration has done nothing wrong, and never will.That’s not even true.
thisisfine.jpgSure it is, fella.
thisisfine.jpgWhatever you say, champ.
thisisfine.jpgYes yes, you definitely believe that this is fine and there has been no issue here.
Biden: he's incompetent and shouldn't lead.This whole thread has become a this is fine meme from the usual suspects
Trump's team: Incompetence is fine!
Who said it was an accident?Literally everyone.
You are asking everybody here to rely on your professed ability to determine levels of competence within positions of government that you do not occupy, have never occupied, and cannot ever hope to occupyThey added a fucking journalist, who does not have security clearance, to a group chat about an upcoming military operation.
Makes things worse for who, exactly?For your country.
Once again, the people that actually matter are okay with it.Which, as has been explained to you, makes things worse.
I don't see how this personal liberal view of how operational secrecy should he handled has any merit.Liberal view
That’s even worse. Incompetence should never be tolerated at such a high level.Tom may be OK with that level of incompetence at that level, I don't think many other people are.Actually , the people that matter are okay with it.
Exactly this.