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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 09:11:16 PM »

Those 6500 are people pardoned for weed. You can't keep them in jail when weed is legal.

Sure you can - imprisoning innocents is one of America's finest pastimes.

Also, if we're gonna pick pardons you do and don't like, then you have a lot of picking and choosing to do. Please provide a complete list of which pardons from the last 4 presidents you do and don't like.

Yeah, the American government is the asshole of the world for people per capitia incarcerated but doesn't mean I need to like it and shouldn't work to shut it down. It shouldn't take a Presidential pardon to free thousands of innocent people in jail.

I don't need to look at past pardons. I've issued a new proclamation. Presidential pardons have continued to suck more and more over the last two decades. I hereby permanently ban them all.

Obama abusing the system doesn't prove anything.

OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO GETTING IT. C'MON, VAN NOSTRAND, ONE MORE PUSH!!!

Abusing exec powers is a non-partisan thing. I have plenty to bitch about whoever is President.

He's just one of a dozen dark marketeers

Right. I recommend you familiarise yourself with his story if you're gonna bring it up. Will save you a couple of Certified Doctor Moments™.

I know a lot more about his story than Trump does.

Why not Daniel Kaye or Rui-Siang Lin.

Why, indeed? Let me know once you've done your homework.

They weren't mentioned by Trump for pardon because Trump has no idea who they are.

Trump would totally pardon Hannibal Lecter if he was real. Trump knows all about him.

I think 'pardons' and 'Presidential pardons' are two separate things.

Okay. Since you're introducing a non-standard distinction to the concept of a federal pardon, please provide your definitions. Which type of non-presidential pardons is your favourite?

A Presidential pardon is a federal pardon issued by the President. But we've seen that we can't let American Presidents have the authority to unilaterally pardon anyone they want with no oversight. They get stupid.
Trump threatening to pardon himself has ruined it for all future Presidents. No more fucking Presidential pardons for anyone! Including the White House Thanksgiving Turkeys.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 06:43:08 PM »

Biden pardoned around 27 people, Trump pardoned 237.

You're about 6500 short for Biden, and Obama pardoned 1927. It's almost as if comparing these funny numbers isn't very helpful.

Those 6500 are people pardoned for weed. You can't keep them in jail when weed is legal. Obama abusing the system doesn't prove anything.

How much do you know about Ulbricht?

He's just one of a dozen dark marketeers serving huge jail sentences that have been busted for selling millions of dollars of guns and drugs. The only thing that makes him special is that Trump mentioned him specifically while he was romancing the Libertarians and crypto bros. Why not Daniel Kaye or Rui-Siang Lin.

So, uh, I guess you're joining us in the "pardons are bad" camp?

I think 'pardons' and 'Presidential pardons' are two separate things. I've seen more Presidential pardons that piss me off than I support so 'yes' I think Presidential pardons are bad.
Pardoning oneself is absolute bullshit.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 04, 2024, 05:40:43 PM »

Biden pardoned around 27 people, Trump pardoned 237.

Trump has talked about pardoning the cop-killing traitors that attacked our capital. He said he would pardon Ross Ulbricht (in prison for life for operating the dark web market, "Silk Road.")

And of course, he's also going to pardon himself for any crimes he chooses to commit.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« on: December 03, 2024, 01:07:14 PM »

Just Watched: The Black Hole
Disney 1979

Massive spoiler, pretty much all the spoilers, but it’s ok. If you haven’t seen this movie, DON’T WATCH IT. If you’ve already seen it, then you know the deal. If you haven’t seen it, I’m telling you, DON’T.

Ok, ok, so I had never seen this movie. Despite being a sci-fi Star Wars kid, I somehow never saw this. I knew it was out there, and I’d seen the toy action figures but never saw the movie, which it turns out was better for my life overall. But after decades, the apparently well executed special effects and mysterious story line finally got my curiosity up. I sat through the whole movie and just WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?
Seriously, what the fuck?!?

It looked like it would be a normal sci-fi type thing but it was Walt Disney’s first PG rated movie and nobody had any clue who this movie was made for.

It starts off all normal like a small group of astronauts going to explore one of the galaxy’s most mysterious objects, The Black Hole. So far so good. But in the gravity well of the blackhole they find a giant, spooky, old space ship from years past. How freaky! Oh wait. It’s a ship that was carrying one of the main characters’ fathers when it disappeared years ago! That’s even freakier! It turns out that the captain of the old ghost ship is a bearded Captain Ahab kind of guy running this massive ship with a crew of androids. But none of this story will matter because eventually, everyone’s going in the hole. As with most Ahab types, he’s obsessed, and in this case, he’s obsessed with the glory that awaits in the hole and has some self-destructive plan to get it.

Ahab’s sidekick is a seven-foot-tall red robot called ‘Maximillion’ that floats around with stiff unarticulated limbs, shooting laser beams out of his eye slot like ‘Gort’ from the 1950’s. He doesn’t talk or anything, he just floats around menacing people like a giant red dildo. It’s one of the saddest excuses for a robot in the galaxy but it doesn’t matter, they’re all going in the hole. There is a good guy droid about the size of a floating garbage can that has the voice of Slim Pickens and an idiotic painted face. He dies but at least he doesn’t go in the hole.

There is more pointless story line and the good guy scientists start to figure out that Ahab is crazy and the dildobot is a murderous asshole. *JUMPSCARE* The crew isn’t androids! They’re the human crew zombified into slavery by Ahab! None of it will matter in the hole.

There are shoot outs, close calls! The ghost ship’s control systems are damaged! More explosions, Ahab is trapped under falling debris on the bridge of his ship as it tumbles into the black hole!

The good guys make it to an escape pod and flee the ghost ship. But, *JUMP SCARE* the escape pod is preprogrammed to go directly into the black hole! Ahab was going to use it to penetrate the hole! There’s no escape for the good guys! Everybody's going in the hole!

Now at this point, if everybody in the movie had been crushed into background radiation, it could have been a pointless adventure movie that no one survived, like The Perfect Storm. It would have sucked but at least it would have been NORMAL.

With just minutes left in the movie, things get seriously fucked up. The ghost ship falls into the hole and Ahab finds himself floating in space, without a space suit. He’s floating in a black night sky and suddenly, he’s face to face with the evil dildobot. They somehow melt together and he’s inside the dildobot! You can see his terrified face looking out of dildobot’s eye slot! But he’s not in space anymore, he’s in Hell! Seriously, Hell. Not a hellscape planet like where Obi Wan chopped off Anakin Skywalker’s legs, it’s literally Hell with fire, lava and marching lines of suffering souls! The dude ends up in Hell? Seriously? What the fuck?

The good guys in the escape pod start to tumble into the hole by turning the camera over and over with a stretchy lens. White light envelopes their ship and there, in the black hole, is an angel! Not a winged extraterrestrial or non-corporeal energy being, an actual fucking angel! It looked like it might have been some white, blonde lady. Why'd they stop with just a angel, why not have Jesus in the hole. You know there was no way a Dancing Ganesha was going to show up.

You’re thinking that there’s no way that’s an angel in the black hole but it’s there in your face!

The angel leads the escape pod down a corridor, the corridor to some kind of chapel. There’s stained glass window effects, it looks like some North American Protestant chapel, like probably Methodist.

So, the angel leads the pod down the corridor of some giant Methodist chapel in space and it opens up to a view of a lush green planet and a brilliant white sun. They come to an orbit around some beautiful planet and THE END! Black Screen. What the fuck?

It was just like the end of Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey, the screen goes black and the whole audience just sits there in stunned silence trying to figure out, What the fuck was that? What did I just watch?

And it was supposed to be for kids! There were action figures and a breakfast cereal promotion. But, then you have to explain the ending to your kid? That the bad guy will burn in hell forever while the good guys are up in Heaven with Grandma?

Fuck this movie.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 28, 2024, 01:53:30 PM »

Could you at least post the "empirical evidence"?

sure thing.

No, silly! He means evidence that confirms what he wants to believe.

I mean empirical evidence,

Not "warnings," and economists championing further a oligarchal approach.

If you had any experience in the manufacturing sector, if you spent years actually producing goods for the global market, you would have lived your empirical evidence. You would have seen it first hand.

But you, like Trump, never successfully manufactured anything in America and have a child-like understanding of the world around you.

People like you should be listening to people like us. We're the ones that built everything around you.

BTW: Don't embarrass yourself by talking about oligarchies. You elected the Murdoch, RNC, Russia, Musk, Trump oligarchy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 27, 2024, 01:03:43 PM »

The idea that the Chinese will take a hit to their profitability and just eat those tariffs is ridiculous. Just like American companies, they don't pay taxes, they pass them on to the consumer in the form of price increases. America doesn't have the manufacturing capacity nor technology to build everything that we use domestically and will be forced to pay the tariffs.

Anything not made in America will become more expensive. I wonder if Trump's Swiss-made, $10,000, vaporware, gold watches will be subject to these tariffs?

As a bonus, chasing out all the immigrants will mean that Americans finally have a shot at those highly desirable jobs picking vegetables in the fields and working in the slaughterhouses shoveling pig guts. Of course, you can imagine what it will cost to pay entitled, lazy Americans to do that kind of work.

Trump has never shopped for groceries in his life (except when posing for a photo op) and destroyed 90% of the businesses he's been associated with. He has no clue what he's doing and will make America into the next Trump Taj Mahal Casino.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 26, 2024, 12:30:03 PM »

No, they were not.
They wrote be has absolute immunity for actions while in office and within the scope of his presidential duties.  The. Failed to define what classifies his scope.

Example: Joe Biden has a cabinet meeting then, during the meeting, murders one of his cabinet members.  Is he immune?

Unfortunately, Trump only has to appoint one more Supreme Court Justice and that will all change.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 22, 2024, 02:32:40 PM »

Nuclear weapons don't exist so I don't think whether Ukraine claims to have any matters. In fact, I suspect Ukraine was bullied out of keeping the supposed nukes because they would have discovered they're not real and told everyone as much. Would have been a bit embarrassing for the US and Russia if that were to happen.

Nice opinion.
A lot of this, hmm, "analysis" seems to use your imagination as a source.

Thinking nuclear weapons exist is quite comical. It's like explaining the politics of the North Pole by bringing Santa into the conversation.

If you think they exist (and you apparently, erroneously, do). I suggest bringing the evidence of that to the appropriate thread: https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=19668.180

No, actually if you think they don't exist, you need to bring Santa Clause to the other thread and prove it there. This thread is for normal people to discuss Biden and Ukraine policy.

BTW: If nuclear weapons don't exist, Ukraine will kick Russia's ass so badly and so deeply that the Kremlin will wish they were back in Afghanistan getting their ass kicked by the Mujahideen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 19, 2024, 04:05:54 PM »

Nuclear weapons don't exist so I don't think whether Ukraine claims to have any matters. In fact, I suspect Ukraine was bullied out of keeping the supposed nukes because they would have discovered they're not real and told everyone as much. Would have been a bit embarrassing for the US and Russia if that were to happen.

Nice opinion.
A lot of this, hmm, "analysis" seems to use your imagination as a source.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 19, 2024, 12:02:27 AM »

Ukraine had an advanced nuclear arsenal (like Israel) and gave up its nukes based on security assurances from the U.S and West. Trump betrayed those promises.

But it's all good now, the Ukrainian nuclear engineers have already started work.

Nuclear weapons don't exist so I don't think whether Ukraine claims to have any matters. In fact, I suspect Ukraine was bullied out of keeping the supposed nukes because they would have discovered they're not real and told everyone as much. Would have been a bit embarrassing for the US and Russia if that were to happen.

Merlin Speaks:
Nuclear weapons are much like the future. What do you really know about them until they go off? And then, it's too late.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 18, 2024, 09:42:25 PM »

Ukraine had an advanced nuclear arsenal (like Israel) and gave up its nukes based on security assurances from the U.S and West. Trump betrayed those promises.

But it's all good now, the Ukrainian nuclear engineers have already started work.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 18, 2024, 01:02:00 PM »

It's too little too late at this point. Putin isn't going to give up his invasion within the next few months, not when he knows that all he has to do is wait until Trump is in office so that he can flatter and manipulate him into abandoning Ukraine and siding with him instead.

This is why Russia spent millions of dollars on the U.S. election. It's not just Trump supporting the invasion of Ukraine, but he's giving the green light to take Estonia and Latvia as well.

Trump is stacking his staff and cabinet with pro-Russia freaks and centralizing political power in the Executive branch to become the next member of the new Soviet Union. This is exactly what happened in Venezuela, the Czech Republic and the Republic of Georgia.
As predicted by me a year ago...

America needs to move as many of these traitorous freaks to Russia as we can. Rather than allowing the Republicans to make us part of the new Soviet Republic, we need to ship them to Russia. Rand Paul, Melissa Boebert, M.J. Greene, Matt Gaetz, Josh (the running man) Hawley, Ron Johnson, Donald Trump and the whole Hee Haw gang needs to go. Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Bill Barr need to go to prison for thirty years and then get shipped to Russia.

After Ronald Reagan's pressure helped bring down the Soviet Union, these turncoats are helping Putin rebuild it. These communist collaborators are supporting Russia for one reason, they know Russia will support them in the next election.

This is how Venezuela became a Russian nation state. Putin flooded their media with propaganda that got those idiots to elect a bunch of corrupt pro-Russia politicians who then changed the laws so they can't be un-elected. We're watching it happen here.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 13, 2024, 12:46:34 AM »

Trans people are only a new phenomenon insofar as anyone in years past who exhibited trans behaviors would have been dismissed as either a lunatic or a pervert. You might as well question why there aren't more openly gay people or people with mental illnesses throughout history. These concepts weren't understood by previous generations, and so they were entirely overlooked.

Actually, in Iran, they have no gay people. The Ayatollah explains that they have no actual homosexuals. They, of course, have people who suffer from various mental illnesses, which they treat medically and compassionately. But there are no gay people.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 12, 2024, 11:15:10 PM »

About one and half percent of people on earth are born genetically, morphological and biologically 'intersex'.

Despite the conservative story of two genders, these people do exist and in some cases want surgical and hormonal therapies.

Where are people like Actio80 supposed to get these therapies?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Time to batten down the hatches.

« on: November 10, 2024, 12:36:22 AM »

Fuck those monkeys...
https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower

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Technology & Information / Re: ⚡Is my browser faster than your browser?

« on: November 08, 2024, 01:03:45 PM »

It seems the link contains some malware.

What makes you say that?

I had to think of something negative to post because we all know how terrible the originator of the OP is.

==============================================
Hybrid Analysis Report
 no specific threat
AV Detection: Marked as clean
https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0/
https://www.hybrid-analysis.com/sample/464273d0399a9242d38f3c9e38a7dc690572038b706f8dd5c49852665710446f/672e05d268b9b7ad680afc6e
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The court has found Dr David Thork innocent of the charges stemming from the Computer Misuse Act.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 08, 2024, 01:10:41 PM »

Ukraine is a corrupt country, with a long history of supporting criminal activity for criminal gangs involved in human trafficking and money laundering.

Iran says America is a corrupt country, with a long history of supporting criminal activity for criminal gangs involved in human trafficking and money laundering. It's ok for them to invade us?


Yes, you, the Republicans and Trump support the expansion of righteous Russia. Russia is built on good, wholesome family values. Putin hardly ever assassinates or jails his adversaries. The people of Russia enjoy wonderful lives, free speech and protect Europe from the terrible Nazis in Ukraine. Russia's support will be critical to Trump in the next election and he nurtures it.

But of course, in the Bizarro world of flat earth, Russia is a country of liberty, hope and prosperity while Ukraine (a small country with a short Jewish comedy actor as president whose parents died in the Holocaust) is a Naxi threat to the planet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 07, 2024, 12:35:21 PM »

I think you're making a long line of assumptions, assumptions that those interested would like you to make. No one here was arguing there was a complete lack of election interference (there was, as evidence you provided shows!). That was the entire point of the Mueller report! Except, it didn't prove anything about Trump, you know, the person the title of the thread mentions?

The problem is your logical leap that Trump was personally involved, despite the lack of evidence. It's at best wishful thinking on your part, at worst, a purposeful attempt to muddy the waters.

While Russia was proven to be helping Republicans, it didn't work out for them. Because, and I know this is hard for you to accept, but the Russian government is dumb as bricks. They got Trump elected and then he immediately began telling NATO that they should expand their defense spending. The same organization currently fighting Russia in Ukraine? I guess big brain Putin wanted NATO to waste his resources the whole time! Wow!

Again, you didn't read the report, again, you are making massive assumptions about the state of reality based on some news articles you read. Your entire concept of modern geopolitics seems to begin and end at "Trump bad because Putin did thing "

No, you didn't read the report. You're mindlessly quoting Trump apologists.
The report could not connect Trump directly in a criminal context but outlines overwhelming circumstantial evidence that he was involved. The Russians broke into the DNC servers, stole emails and contacted the Republicans. The ideal that Trump didn't know anything about it and would have stopped it if he found out is ridiculous.

The Democrat House judiciary committee chairman Jerold Nadler opened questioning on Wednesday by asking Mr Mueller whether Donald Trump had been accurate to claim he was "exonerated" by the special counsel report, to which Mr Muller replied with an emphatic "No".

Download the report, seriously. At 400 pages, it sounds like a lot but there is a lot of white space and is not hard to read or understand.

But that was then, this is now. We know Trump planned to let Russia have Ukraine for which they would render all kinds of political support. There is a lot more evidence now. Giuliani's good buddies, Lev and Igor are getting out of prison and are writing books that you won't read filled with all kinds of stuff you don't want to believe.

And this from Trump's attempt to be America's first king....
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-denied-presidential-immunity-in-election-interference-case-court-rules

The bummer is that Biden doesn't have immunity to send Seal Team Six to assassinate traitorous insurrectionist who collaborate with enemies to subvert our democracy.

The cool part is that Trump's idiotic argument got shot down and he only has a couple of weeks to find a lawyer and mount an appeal to the supreme court.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 06, 2024, 01:02:42 PM »

Not one bit of what you provided had to do with 2016.

What about the US Government that is interested in securing the US border?

Seems they are more interested in securing the borders of Ukraine (against Putin, by the way) and Israel.

Can you even see straight, given all the crapola you have spewed lately?

WEAK...Weak...

We had a deal to strengthen the border that everybody liked but your daddy Trump ordered his minions to kill it before they even read it.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/05/trump-maga-senate-border-deal-mcconnell

Trump wants to screw up this country and tell us that he is the cure.

You remind me of the frightened senior citizens living in Northern Minnesota stockpiling weapons to fight off waves Mexican immigrants sweeping through the countryside. They believe all the stupid shit they see on NewsMax and don't understand where the food in this country really comes from.

Dude, you were ten years old in 2016. You think Trump is securing the nation and it's borders? He couldn't even secure his own twitter account (hacked 3 times).

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: February 05, 2024, 10:03:35 PM »

I have read it. It's a pdf in a folder on my desktop. 400 pages. I study that shit. I have screen shots from Russian websites, I download and translate documents. All your conservative heroes are there.

Uh huh...

The Mueller Report is still available for download...

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

You should download a copy and STFU.

Wow, instead of giving me all the hot specifics of your claims, you tell me "just read it yourself" right after claiming you've read it when you obviously have not. This is just embarrassing, why are you doing this? Like, why bother posting about it at all?

I guess it's tough to keep your worldview in line with your beliefs when your beliefs are based on a few op-ed's you read three years ago.

I just went through all this with Pete a few posts ago and you missed it just like the first time you missed it 2016.

But don't worry, You don't need to read anything, you can just listen to Trump. It's all a hoax. Russia is your friend.



U.S. Department of Justice
Attorney Work Product // May Contain Material Protected Under Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e)II. RUSSIAN “ACTIVE MEASURES” SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN
The first form of Russian election influence came principally from the Internet Research
Agency, LLC (IRA), a Russian organization funded by Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin and
companies he controlled, including Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord
Catering (collectively “Concord”).2 The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large
U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system.3 These operations
constituted “active measures” (активные мероприятия), a term that typically refers to operations
conducted by Russian security services aimed at influencing the course of international affairs.4
The IRA and its employees began operations targeting the United States as early as 2014.
Using fictitious U.S. personas, IRA employees operated social media accounts and group pages
designed to attract U.S. audiences. These groups and accounts, which addressed divisive U.S.
political and social issues, falsely claimed to be controlled by U.S. activists. Over time, these
social media accounts became a means to reach large U.S. audiences. IRA employees travelled to
the United States in mid-2014 on an intelligence-gathering mission to obtain information and
photographs for use in their social media posts.
IRA employees posted derogatory information about a number of candidates in the 2016
U.S. presidential election. By early to mid-2016, IRA operations included supporting the Trump
Campaign and disparaging candidate Hillary Clinton. The IRA made various expenditures to carry
out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the names of U.S.
persons and entities. Some IRA employees, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their
Russian association, communicated electronically with individuals associated with the Trump
Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities, including the
staging of political rallies.5 The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons
knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation.
By the end of the 2016 U.S. election, the IRA had the ability to reach millions of U.S.
persons through their social media accounts.

etc, etc, etc...


Yep, the Russians were behind "KIDS4TRUMP," "Tea Party News," and all kinds of other Trump crap that you gobble up.
Putin's calling upon you to "Be Patriotic" "Stop All Invaders" and "Secure the borders!" (all Russian Facebook groups) Putin wants what's best for our country.


It's probably best that you didn't read any of it and have no clue. If you knew the truth about Republicans, you wouldn't believe it anyway.
Just one Russian Facebook group made over 80,000 postings that got lots of likes from idiotic rednecks that will eat something they find on the sidewalk without thinking.

BTW- That was 2016. Today, Russia is promoting the stolen election lie and predicting civil war for America. You have Putin, Trump and Jesus all still working hard for the causes you believe in and support.