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Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« on: December 11, 2013, 02:31:10 PM »
This is the question put forward by this video.  Have a watch and tell me what you think:



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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 02:36:33 PM »
Being the right religion doesn't stop it from being radical. In a world where everyone else is wrong, being right is a radical position.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 06:32:38 PM »
If all that is true then the answer to his questions at the end are yes.

Because those beliefs are incompatible with the laws in my country so they would be better served living in a country who's laws more accurately fit with their beliefs.

Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 07:38:11 PM »
If the laws are not based on the truth, then they are wicked laws that need to be replaced.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 09:41:00 PM »
Laws are arbitrary.
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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 09:42:44 PM »
There are three big problems I have with this video:
  • Yes, "all" people attending the "Islam is the best" conference think Islam is great. I hope they notified the media. This could be a big story. I can see the headlines right now: BREAKING: Muslims Still Muslim!
  • He keeps putting "normal" and "Sunni" in the same sentence.
  • If you're holding a conference in English and can't say a single sentence without interjecting Arabic in the middle, something's not quite right.
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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 09:43:55 PM »
If the laws are not based on the truth, then they are wicked laws that need to be replaced.
easiest way to replace them is to go to where the laws are different.

Although generally those places are not quite so nice to live in, I wonder if that's a coincidence.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 11:41:34 PM »
Allahu Akbar!
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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2013, 01:27:16 AM »
No group of religious people are going to actively say they aren't correct. Dumb question is dumb.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2013, 03:08:17 AM »
I wasn't able to watch the video. I am on my computer, but the connection is very slow (its bleeding off a neighbour's connection). First off, IRUSH is right. NO religion, not Judaism, not Christianity, not Islam, are going to say that they are wrong. That would be stupid.

As for Muslims generally, yes, I do despise them, and have never made it a secret. Only the latest models can talk. All the older ones are still swinging from their tails.  I don't care where they live, as long as its not in the USA or Israel. Both nations should deport every Muslim there. As far as the USA goes, the ones descending from somewhere else should get a free ride back, and warned that any return to the USA will result in them being shot. The ones that are converts here should be allowed to choose a Muslim country to go to, and should be offered the same treatment.

As far as Israel goes, EVERY SINGLE Arab needs to be deported from Greater Israel, without exception. Any who refuse to go need to be escorted out at gunpoint.

I'm no Nazi. I don't believe in murder, even when the receiving end is a camel jockey. But they need to go back where they came from, and need to be allowed to live there, and we should likewise have no Westerners or Israelis allowed in those countries for any purpose other than business. And we should become energy independent as soon as possible, thus being able to forbid any American or Israeli from being in those countries period, under penalty of losing their citizenship. Its a very elegant solution, and no one, not even a camel jockey, would have to die.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 03:33:03 AM »
Well don't lie. In another thread you said that if necessary you would have all Muslims in the "Holy Lands" (lol!) shot if they would not go quietly. You obviously believe in murder sometimes.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 03:47:25 AM »
Notice. I said deport @ gunpoint if needed, & if they return, a bullet.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2013, 03:50:51 AM »
I don't think it's justified to tell yourself that you're not a murderer, but you'll totally kill people for not doing your own ridiculous demands. "I want you to burn down your house and go live somewhere else, if you come back, I'll kill you. But that totally doesn't make me a murderer because I gave you a choice between completely fucking your life up and death."

Killing people because a book told you to is the most literal definition of a psychopath I can think of. You're no better than a Muslim extremist, the only difference is you're a Jewish extremist.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2013, 04:59:34 AM »
We tried to be nice. We offered in 2000 to give them ALL of the Gaza Strip & E. Jerusalem, & 96% of the W. Bank. The Camel Jockey in Chief Arafat started the 2nd Intifada. As far as I'm concerned, every camel jockey's life became forfeit @ that point. The fact that they have to go is their own fault.

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2013, 05:40:47 AM »
I'm not saying violence is necessarily bad, I'm just calling you out on your "I don't believe in murder" bullshit. You 100% believe in murder, it seems to be a staple of your political agenda.

Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2013, 05:45:35 AM »
I wasn't able to watch the video. I am on my computer, but the connection is very slow (its bleeding off a neighbour's connection). First off, IRUSH is right. NO religion, not Judaism, not Christianity, not Islam, are going to say that they are wrong. That would be stupid.

As for Muslims generally, yes, I do despise them, and have never made it a secret. Only the latest models can talk. All the older ones are still swinging from their tails.  I don't care where they live, as long as its not in the USA or Israel. Both nations should deport every Muslim there. As far as the USA goes, the ones descending from somewhere else should get a free ride back, and warned that any return to the USA will result in them being shot. The ones that are converts here should be allowed to choose a Muslim country to go to, and should be offered the same treatment.

As far as Israel goes, EVERY SINGLE Arab needs to be deported from Greater Israel, without exception. Any who refuse to go need to be escorted out at gunpoint.

I'm no Nazi. I don't believe in murder, even when the receiving end is a camel jockey. But they need to go back where they came from, and need to be allowed to live there, and we should likewise have no Westerners or Israelis allowed in those countries for any purpose other than business. And we should become energy independent as soon as possible, thus being able to forbid any American or Israeli from being in those countries period, under penalty of losing their citizenship. Its a very elegant solution, and no one, not even a camel jockey, would have to die.

This post scared the living crap out of me.  I hope you never come into power of any kind, and I'm going to be keeping ctr+f on your posts for the word "camp" in the future.  I can understand a dislike of Muslims, especially if you feel close to the cultural and political tension in the Middle East, but this... This level of intolerance and prejudice is a scourge in humanity's heart that needs to be remedied, and I don't care about "who started it" because meeting hatred with hatred makes you no better than the ones you criticize.
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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2013, 05:47:26 AM »
I love how Yaakov is not even pretending not to be racist anymore. Camel jockey this, camel jockey that...

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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2013, 05:49:13 AM »
I wasn't able to watch the video. I am on my computer, but the connection is very slow (its bleeding off a neighbour's connection). First off, IRUSH is right. NO religion, not Judaism, not Christianity, not Islam, are going to say that they are wrong. That would be stupid.

As for Muslims generally, yes, I do despise them, and have never made it a secret. Only the latest models can talk. All the older ones are still swinging from their tails.  I don't care where they live, as long as its not in the USA or Israel. Both nations should deport every Muslim there. As far as the USA goes, the ones descending from somewhere else should get a free ride back, and warned that any return to the USA will result in them being shot. The ones that are converts here should be allowed to choose a Muslim country to go to, and should be offered the same treatment.

As far as Israel goes, EVERY SINGLE Arab needs to be deported from Greater Israel, without exception. Any who refuse to go need to be escorted out at gunpoint.

I'm no Nazi. I don't believe in murder, even when the receiving end is a camel jockey. But they need to go back where they came from, and need to be allowed to live there, and we should likewise have no Westerners or Israelis allowed in those countries for any purpose other than business. And we should become energy independent as soon as possible, thus being able to forbid any American or Israeli from being in those countries period, under penalty of losing their citizenship. Its a very elegant solution, and no one, not even a camel jockey, would have to die.
I don't want muslims in my country either, or even in my continent. But this is, how should I put it... pretty radical.
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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2013, 06:20:21 AM »
Killing people because a book told you to is the most literal definition of a psychopath I can think of.
I'm pretty sure that's way too extreme for most actual psychopaths.
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Re: Is Islam a radical religion or is everyone else wrong?
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2013, 06:48:25 AM »
It has nothing to do w/ the Bible, actually. It has to do w/ a fight that Arabs have chosen to make. If they would stop blowing shit up, there might be room to talk. As it is, they must be confined to that part of the world that is theirs. They are a proven danger to the civilised world. & allow me to point out that the last time we were nice, it cost us 6 million. No more Mr. Nice Jew. Its time to stand up & be counted. They act like rabid dogs, they need to be treated as such.