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Re: The British Empire brought civilisation.
« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2013, 05:09:46 PM »
You sound like modern day Americans.

There's a big difference between saying it when you look into the past and saying it when you look at the flaws of the present.

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Re: The British Empire brought civilisation.
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2013, 12:09:53 AM »
Funny how we get flack for both dividing India/Pakistan down religious lines and NOT dividing Africa among tribal ones.

Make your minds up people.
Well, if you could learn how do draw borders that make sense, then maybe you wouldn't get so much flack.
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Re: The British Empire brought civilisation.
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2013, 07:50:19 AM »
Funny how we get flack for both dividing India/Pakistan down religious lines and NOT dividing Africa among tribal ones.

Make your minds up people.
Well, if you could learn how do draw borders that make sense, then maybe you wouldn't get so much flack.

I'm not sure there was one in India.

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Re: The British Empire brought civilisation.
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2013, 02:48:30 PM »
There wasn't a border in India. The borders drawn were NOT made by the British, but by Mohammed Ali Jinnah & Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. Where there was a Muslim majority, that was Pakistan (hence W. Pakistan & E. Pakistan, which later became Bangladesh). Where there was a Hindu majority became India. Where the situation was mixed, the state in question was allowed to choose. In Princely States, that meant the ruler choosing (hence Jammu & Kashmir going to India; the province is about 60% Muslim, but the Princely dynasty was Hindu). The only thing for the British to do was to approve the final decisions, which they did. The fact that there was no natural border is indicated by the fact that Punjab, home of the Sikhs, was divided in half. They weren't considered by either Muslims or Hindus. If India's borders had been drawn by the British, Punjab would probably be independent.
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Re: The British Empire brought civilisation.
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2013, 03:04:50 AM »
Well, it wasn't just the British who brought civilisation. The French did too. Looking @ the current situation in the Central African Republic, the French are having to go there to hopefully put an end to the mess going on. If they'd never left, this probably wouldn't have started!

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Re: The British Empire brought civilisation.
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2013, 05:57:41 PM »
Well, it wasn't just the British who brought civilisation. The French did too. Looking @ the current situation in the Central African Republic, the French are having to go there to hopefully put an end to the mess going on. If they'd never left, this probably wouldn't have started!

Well thats impossible to know.  Perhaps it would have been replaced with an even worse situation.