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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #240 on: February 24, 2014, 12:46:11 AM »
Which NPCs would you recommend recruiting as followers, Crudblud?  In both games.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #241 on: February 24, 2014, 11:04:58 AM »
Which NPCs would you recommend recruiting as followers, Crudblud?  In both games.
In F1 I generally just pick up everyone I can, iirc they're pretty useless in combat by the end, so make sure you're well equipped with power armour and energy weapons. In terms of companion variety F1 is pretty limited, F2 is much more complex and you have quite a lot of options both for party build and how the NPCs operate in combat.

To get the maximum party size in F2 (5 NPCs in vanilla) set Charisma to 8 and get the Magnetic Personality perk. Sulik usually dies because he's a melee fighter, but he's helpful enough in the early game. In combat, Cassidy, Goris and Marcus are my preferred crew. Dogmeat is the best dog ally, K-9 is also good, but avoid Robodog (K-9 with lower stats) and definitely avoid Pariah, if you fail the luck check and he joins you, you should just kill him (he can join over the party cap). Skynet is good in combat but bugs out some NPCs, I don't use him very often so I don't know if the restoration patch fixed that. Lenny can be useful if you're not levelling up your healing skills, but he's mediocre in combat unless you give him power armour, similarly Vic is good if you aren't levelling your repair skills, but if you're specialising for combat I suggest taking Myron as a support because he can make drugs and stimpaks (including super stimpaks), he also has some of the funniest dialogue in the entire game. Davin and Miria are both more like flavour characters than anything, and pretty useless in combat. I think that covers just about everyone.

tl;dr: F1: Get everyone you can but make sure you're not relying on them too much. F2: Max out the party cap and get Cass, Goris, Marcus, Myron and Dogmeat. Kill Pariah if he joins.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #242 on: February 24, 2014, 11:54:40 AM »
You absolutely need powerarmour and energy weapons to make by at the end? What if you're roleplaying as a guy who only use guns and light armour? Muh freedum!
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #243 on: February 24, 2014, 03:05:20 PM »
Thanks, Crudblud.

You absolutely need powerarmour and energy weapons to make by at the end? What if you're roleplaying as a guy who only use guns and light armour? Muh freedum!

Then you will soon be roleplaying as a dead guy.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #244 on: February 24, 2014, 03:25:48 PM »
some roleplaying game that doesn't let you play the way you want :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #245 on: February 24, 2014, 04:27:34 PM »
It does let you play the way you want.  It's just that you're going to die if you stick to the low-powered route.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #246 on: February 24, 2014, 04:32:25 PM »
If you're roleplaying someone who is smart enough to get to the end of Fallout, you're roleplaying someone smart enough to gear up properly for the finale.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #247 on: February 24, 2014, 05:11:42 PM »
some roleplaying game that doesn't let you play the way you want :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Fo realz. I love playing unarmed characters cause those powerfists are pretty damn awesome. What kind of rpg is this?!

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #248 on: February 24, 2014, 06:46:43 PM »
Besides, the inevitability of change and the futility of clinging to the past has always been a major theme of the series.  It may well apply to reliance on primitive technology too.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #249 on: February 24, 2014, 06:52:44 PM »
Besides, the inevitability of change and the futility of clinging to the past has always been a major theme of the series.  It may well apply to reliance on primitive technology too.
Sounds like an over-analytical way to say that their class mechanic sucks.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #250 on: February 24, 2014, 06:59:43 PM »
I would go as far as to say that there is no class mechanic. But I think it should be possible to finish the game in several different ways instead of forcing you to don a powerarmour and and energy weapons in order to stand a chanse. What about light armour, stealth and agility? How about a diplomatic approach? I haven't had to fight Legate Lanius even once.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #251 on: February 25, 2014, 05:02:48 AM »
There is a diplomatic approach you can take with the main villain, but you still need to do plenty of fighting to get to him.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #252 on: February 25, 2014, 05:26:59 AM »
Can you do it by stealth-sniping your way through to him?
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #253 on: February 25, 2014, 08:22:04 AM »
I was simply illustrating the most efficient way to do it in combat, there are many other tactical options, the power armour route is by far the least difficult in my experience. Unless you've specialised in speech there isn't an easy way to take on the Master, his SPECIAL is mostly 10s, he has heavy energy weapons, a high sequence and iirc cannot suffer critical failures. There's an alternate route you can take and bypass him altogether, but that option has its own challenges is cheap as fuck.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #254 on: February 25, 2014, 02:18:13 PM »
Can you do it by stealth-sniping your way through to him?

Stealth-sniping?  Don't be ridiculous, Mugsy.  I think it's quite clear that it was your intention to roleplay these games as the Man with No Name.  You think you can beat them while wearing a poncho and only using primitive guns and good old fisticuffs.  Well, it's not going to happen.  You myst adapt and become a sci-fi warrior to complete the games.  It is the only way.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #255 on: February 25, 2014, 02:31:32 PM »
shit gaem
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #256 on: February 25, 2014, 03:06:10 PM »
I'd like to see Eastwood try to take down a big motherfucker like Horrigan with his old-timey revolver.  He wouldn't even be able to do it with Dirty Harry's gun.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #257 on: February 25, 2014, 03:38:37 PM »
I bet Batman could do it without guns.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #258 on: February 26, 2014, 04:31:30 PM »
Yes!  I've joined the Brotherhood of Steel and now I'm decked out in awesome power armor.  I can take on anything the wasteland throws at me.  Anything!

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #259 on: February 26, 2014, 04:46:35 PM »
Absolutely anything.
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