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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #200 on: February 18, 2014, 07:04:29 PM »
But it's really simple. You have interface buttons for everything you ever need to access. You'd literally have to have never touched a CRPG before to find it even mildly confusing.

Hell, it's much quicker than the modern style of piling everything under submenus.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #201 on: February 18, 2014, 07:13:12 PM »
Yeah.
Map in Fallout. Click Map button.
Map in Fallout 3/New Vegas. Open Pip-Boy. Click Data button. Click Map.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #202 on: February 18, 2014, 07:21:38 PM »
But it's really simple. You have interface buttons for everything you ever need to access. You'd literally have to have never touched a CRPG before to find it even mildly confusing.

Hell, it's much quicker than the modern style of piling everything under submenus.

You've begun playing it?

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #203 on: February 18, 2014, 07:24:48 PM »
But it's really simple. You have interface buttons for everything you ever need to access. You'd literally have to have never touched a CRPG before to find it even mildly confusing.

Hell, it's much quicker than the modern style of piling everything under submenus.

You've begun playing it?

Yes. Crudblud and beardo told me to get the restoration patch though, so I may have to start over.

I didn't get very far yet. I killed some giant rats and scorpions. The game so far has seemed very intuitive and straightforward, I don't see what's confusing about it at all.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #204 on: February 18, 2014, 11:26:59 PM »
It's been long enough that I don't remember exactly why I hated the controls, but I remember hating how horribly slow and awkwardly moving around was. It probably doesn't help that I prefer moving with a joystick/arrow keys (preferably joystick, wasd and arrow keys are shit) than clicking where I want to go. Maybe when I play and quit soon I'll remember why.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #205 on: February 19, 2014, 01:25:06 AM »
The controls aren't that bad.
Yes. Yes, they are.

I started playing F2 a few years ago and got killed in the vault by a radroach simply because I couldn't figure out the controls and the thought of reading through that tome of an instruction book sent shivers down my spine. I gave up after about 20 minutes.

wow

It is literally the same with every other shooter. You don't have to use VATS. And I believe like most modern games it tells you on the screen how to pull up your inventory and how to use VATS.

Fallout 2, not 3.
My bad, totally skimmed that. I just assumed you meant the new games.

But Saddam hit it. So it's not literally the map as I couldn't remember the screen when I made that post. But the interface is awkward and it takes awhile to get used to moving around and fighting. And also there was no story other than, hey get this water chip for these people you won't meet.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #206 on: February 19, 2014, 01:30:02 AM »
Also, I do play CRPGs. All of them are better than the original Fallout games.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #207 on: February 19, 2014, 02:15:50 AM »
So anyway, I was completely distracted today so sorry again Ghost.

Maybe I'll try Fallout 1 again to see if the story picks up and if there's anything to all this hipster fuss.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #208 on: February 19, 2014, 07:19:46 AM »
I think this whole "forming an opinion of the game based on the first five minutes" system of criticism is a pretty good idea.

Fallout 3: Character creation. 3/10

New Vegas: Chandler shot me and then character creation. 4/10

Fallout 1: Why isn't this FPS and why am I not being spoonfed backstory like crazy? What's a role playing game? -10/10

Fallout 2: Poor decision making results in game over? -10/10

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #209 on: February 19, 2014, 12:14:16 PM »
If you spend that much time on character creation then sure. I can see it getting annoying.

But if a game also doesn't draw you in with any kind of good story or environment then it also sucks.

And shouldn't character creation take awhile for a good RPG? That's just kind of standard really. The first Fallout didn't seem like too much of an RPG in the first 5 minutes. More like a point and click rat fighting game.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #210 on: February 19, 2014, 12:19:23 PM »
Would you prefer Deathclaws right from the start?
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #211 on: February 19, 2014, 12:24:28 PM »
Would you prefer Deathclaws right from the start?
Yes.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #212 on: February 19, 2014, 12:35:21 PM »
You exit the Vault.
You're level 1.
Your weapon is a 10 mm pistol.
Three wild Deathclaws appears and charges at you.
What do you do?
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #213 on: February 19, 2014, 12:50:28 PM »
You exit the Vault.
You're level 1.
Your weapon is a 10 mm pistol.
Three wild Deathclaws appears and charges at you.
What do you do?
Throw away pistol and use fists.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #214 on: February 19, 2014, 01:53:27 PM »
You punch at the nearest Deathclaw.
You miss.
The Deathclaw attacks you with his claws.
You are near death.
The other two Deathclaws comes closer.
What do you do?
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #215 on: February 19, 2014, 02:08:50 PM »
Wonder why I am playing the Fallout edition of Zork.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #216 on: February 19, 2014, 02:47:08 PM »
You punch at the nearest Deathclaw.
You miss.
The Deathclaw attacks you with his claws.
You are near death.
The other two Deathclaws comes closer.
What do you do?
Cast magic missile.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #217 on: February 19, 2014, 03:03:44 PM »
The game crashes. Start over.
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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #218 on: February 19, 2014, 03:10:36 PM »
The game crashes. Start over.
Damn. So close.

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Re: Fallout series
« Reply #219 on: February 19, 2014, 03:16:23 PM »
This insolence needs to stop and it needs to stop right now.  You are making a mockery of this website with your behavior.  You are a complete disgrace.