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Re: Trump
« Reply #13460 on: August 13, 2025, 05:16:39 PM »
Oh look, Trump is now violating the first amendment.

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-413572A1.pdf

“More alarmingly, the company agreed to never-before-seen forms of government control over newsroom decisions and editorial judgment—actions that violate both the First Amendment and the law. A government-sanctioned ‘truth arbiter’ will soon arrive at CBS. Their role will be to ensure that journalists at CBS do not criticize this Administration or express views that conflict with its agenda. That should alarm anyone who values the core democratic principle of a free and independent press.

On the contrary, this is a government official using her government position to spread misinformation simply because she personally dislikes Trump.
And you have evidence that this is disinformation, how?
Because I have alot that says it is real.
https://gizmodo.com/fcc-to-appoint-a-babysitter-to-make-sure-cbs-isnt-anti-trump-2000634566


And there's the head of the FCC saying the same thing.
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-413229A1.pdf
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Skydance has made written commitments to ensuring that the new company’s array of news and entertainment programming will embody a diversity of viewpoints across the political and ideological spectrum and that CBS’s reporting will be fair, unbiased, and fact-based.  To promote transparency and increased accountability, Skydance commits, for a period of at least two years, to have in place an ombudsman who will report to the President of New Paramount and evaluate complaints of bias.

On an unrelated note: Trump helps his friends.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czd049y2qymo

And then distracts us by declaring martial law in DC.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/11/trump-national-guard-dc-takeover-live-updates/85606803007/

It's disinformation because an ombudsman has no legal power whatsoever inside a company.

"the company agreed to never-before-seen forms of government control over newsroom decisions and editorial judgment"

This is simply not true at all. The government still can't control anything CBS does. You can make the claim "well they just won't use legal means to do it, it's quid-pro-quo under the table!" Well, if that were the case, then they don't need an ombudsman at all. You might as well tell me Trump already does that with all media companies.

This is simply not true at all. The government still can't control anything CBS does.
The FCC would disagree with you.
https://www.fcc.gov/media/program-content-regulations

Yeah, this.
The FCC can revoke their broadcasting license or deny renewals.  And while I'm sure there are rules about it but Trump's administration doesn't care about rules.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13461 on: August 14, 2025, 12:01:41 PM »
This is simply not true at all. The government still can't control anything CBS does.
The FCC would disagree with you.
https://www.fcc.gov/media/program-content-regulations

Markjooooooooooooooo

Yeah, this.
The FCC can revoke their broadcasting license or deny renewals.  And while I'm sure there are rules about it but Trump's administration doesn't care about rules.

I wasn't aware that Trump created the FCC. I'm learning all sorts of amazing new facts today.

Anyway, if rules don't matter, then the Trump admin doesn't need or want an ombudsman. And since Trump admin rules don't matter, I'm guessing Trump already fired Powell, haha, because rules don't matter and what-not. I guess anything is possible in Dave's imagination-land.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13462 on: August 14, 2025, 12:25:22 PM »
This is simply not true at all. The government still can't control anything CBS does.
The FCC would disagree with you.
https://www.fcc.gov/media/program-content-regulations

Markjooooooooooooooo

Yeah, this.
The FCC can revoke their broadcasting license or deny renewals.  And while I'm sure there are rules about it but Trump's administration doesn't care about rules.

I wasn't aware that Trump created the FCC. I'm learning all sorts of amazing new facts today.

Anyway, if rules don't matter, then the Trump admin doesn't need or want an ombudsman. And since Trump admin rules don't matter, I'm guessing Trump already fired Powell, haha, because rules don't matter and what-not. I guess anything is possible in Dave's imagination-land.
Why would the creation of the FCC matter on who currently controls it? 

And yes, they do not care about rules but they DO care about appearances and results.
If Trump fires Powell, the market could crash due to severe uncertainty or just knowing Trump would put in someone loyal and not competent and thus likely fuck things up for appearances.

Same with the FCC bit.  He could have the license just killed but that would be challenged in court and easily defeated.  But if he can have a 3rd party claim media bias and a violation of agreement... Especially if it makes CBS more Trump Friendly, that's a win on appearances.


I've no doubt, if the optics weren't bad for even his base, he'd have tried to directly silence his critics in the media.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13463 on: August 16, 2025, 06:02:19 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyvd3gkg1po

Wasn’t he going to sort this out in one day?
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

Re: Trump
« Reply #13464 on: August 16, 2025, 08:41:27 AM »
The pre-planned display of F-22s, the random B-2/F-35 flypast, were nice reminders of US military dominance, but as soon as Putin arrives on the carpet it all starts to fall apart.  He's like the ubiquitous, inadequate, school bully.  He bullies his global peers, he bullies his opponents, he bullies the other branches of government, he bullies his cabinet.  Suddenly, with Putin, it's like his Mom's in the room; "Now Donald, play nicely with Vladimir".  What's Putin got on him? 

At the "press conference" he surrenders the lead to Putin, then the normally loquacious Trump rambles on for 2 or 3 minutes about how well it all went, having achieved diddly.  (Remember the Kim Jon Un 1-on-1 btw?  The secret agreement which is still so secret you might think it doesn't exist?).

On a cognitive note, did you notice how he praised Putin's entourage, but couldn't remember Sergei Lavrov's name?  "That guy there, see his face ....".
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« Reply #13465 on: August 16, 2025, 03:08:16 PM »
The pre-planned display of F-22s, the random B-2/F-35 flypast, were nice reminders of US military dominance, but as soon as Putin arrives on the carpet it all starts to fall apart.  He's like the ubiquitous, inadequate, school bully.  He bullies his global peers, he bullies his opponents, he bullies the other branches of government, he bullies his cabinet.  Suddenly, with Putin, it's like his Mom's in the room; "Now Donald, play nicely with Vladimir".  What's Putin got on him? 

At the "press conference" he surrenders the lead to Putin, then the normally loquacious Trump rambles on for 2 or 3 minutes about how well it all went, having achieved diddly.  (Remember the Kim Jon Un 1-on-1 btw?  The secret agreement which is still so secret you might think it doesn't exist?).

On a cognitive note, did you notice how he praised Putin's entourage, but couldn't remember Sergei Lavrov's name?  "That guy there, see his face ....".

Because Trump has no leverage.
Like literally 0.
No threats.
No promises.
And mineral rights is pointless since the alternative is Putin takes the whole country, including all the minerals.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13466 on: August 16, 2025, 03:18:46 PM »
The absolute incompetence and utter stupidity of the Trump administration are the only things protecting us from its unrepentant greed and corruption.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind


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Re: Trump
« Reply #13467 on: August 16, 2025, 04:29:48 PM »
The absolute incompetence and utter stupidity of the Trump administration are the only things protecting us from its unrepentant greed and corruption.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind

Why the fuck would they print anything confidential on a hotel printer?!

What, did they hook their laptops up to the wifi? 
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« Reply #13468 on: August 20, 2025, 06:39:20 PM »
Well, the hits just keep rolling.

Apparently Trump wants to remove mail in voting AND voting machines.

Because Putin told him to.

https://archive.ph/BwFe0#selection-295.1461-295.1740
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-08-18/trump-assault-on-mail-in-ballots-and-voting-machines
“Vladimir Putin said something — one of the most interesting things. He said, ‘Your election was rigged because you have mail-in voting,’” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity in an interview.

But hey, apparently the two elections he won were rigged in levels never seen before.  Not even in Syria where armed guards shoot you if you don't vote for the right person.

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« Reply #13469 on: August 21, 2025, 07:12:17 AM »
lol. Imagine taking notes on democracy from Vladimir Putin.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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Re: Trump
« Reply #13470 on: August 21, 2025, 07:49:53 AM »
Fun fact: Russia has mail in voting.  Limited but it's there.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13471 on: August 21, 2025, 10:24:59 AM »
The absolute incompetence and utter stupidity of the Trump administration are the only things protecting us from its unrepentant greed and corruption.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind

Why the fuck would they print anything confidential on a hotel printer?!

What, did they hook their laptops up to the wifi?
GOT 'EM!

LMMFAO!!!

To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #13472 on: August 21, 2025, 11:16:01 AM »
The absolute incompetence and utter stupidity of the Trump administration are the only things protecting us from its unrepentant greed and corruption.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind

Why the fuck would they print anything confidential on a hotel printer?!

What, did they hook their laptops up to the wifi?
GOT 'EM!

LMMFAO!!!
I'm triggered by IT security failures.
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« Reply #13473 on: August 21, 2025, 11:59:33 AM »
So am I.

Where is the failure in IT security?
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« Reply #13474 on: August 21, 2025, 12:27:48 PM »
So am I.

Where is the failure in IT security?
Connecting a government laptop to an insecure network or device.
Or
Logging unto a secure account with an I secure PC.
Or
Sending secure documents to an insecure email system.

Take your pick because they can't print those papers at a hotel without doing one if those things.
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« Reply #13475 on: August 21, 2025, 12:52:25 PM »
What secure documents?

What insecure network?

What the fuck are you rambling on about, other than your regular stream of faux outrage over shit that never actually happened.

You don't know anything if you are claiming any of the crap in this NPR article is actually classified, especially since all of the info is "after the fact."
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« Reply #13476 on: August 21, 2025, 01:57:56 PM »
What secure documents?
The schedule.  While not classified as top secret, was not public and thus should not be in any public system.

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What insecure network?
The hotel.


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What the fuck are you rambling on about, other than your regular stream of faux outrage over shit that never actually happened.

You don't know anything if you are claiming any of the crap in this NPR article is actually classified, especially since all of the info is "after the fact."
Fact: a secure document does not need to be classified under the secret or top secret filings to be a secure document.  The president's medical records, for example, is a secure document but not classified by the military.

In this instance, the schedule was not public nor meant for the public at the time of printing and is thus a secure document.
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« Reply #13477 on: August 21, 2025, 04:59:02 PM »
Yeah, everything you just typed is bullshit.
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« Reply #13478 on: August 21, 2025, 07:39:09 PM »
Yeah, everything you just typed is bullshit because…
Would you care to finish that sentence?  Or is “because I said so” all you have?
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« Reply #13479 on: August 21, 2025, 07:51:05 PM »
Yeah, everything you just typed is bullshit.
That's because you are shit, so everything looks like shit to you.
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