[Action80]

(g) “Gender identity” reflects a fully internal and subjective sense of self, disconnected from biological reality and sex and existing on an infinite continuum, that does not provide a meaningful basis for identification and cannot be recognized as a replacement for sex.

[Lord Dave]

Yes, it's an EO that says Gender Identity doesn't exist and if you have eggs, you must act like a girl and present as a girl in society.

[Action80]

Yes, it's an EO that says Gender Identity doesn't exist and if you have eggs, you must act like a girl and present as a girl in society.

Where does the EO specifically state "gender identity," does not exist?

Which other human sex would have eggs?

[Dr Van Nostrand]

Yes, it's an EO that says Gender Identity doesn't exist and if you have eggs, you must act like a girl and present as a girl in society.

Where does the EO specifically state "gender identity," does not exist?

Which other human sex would have eggs?

Trump said that only male and female will be recognized, genetically intersex people with or without eggs will not be recognized.

Claiming that intersex people don't exist is an important part of their agenda. If intersex people do exist that would mean that there could be a biological component to homosexuality instead of a personal choice. This would compromise the Republican theory of homosexuality that they use to get their ignorant, redneck followers worked into a froth.

[Lord Dave]

Yes, it's an EO that says Gender Identity doesn't exist and if you have eggs, you must act like a girl and present as a girl in society.

Where does the EO specifically state "gender identity," does not exist?

The bit you quoted.  It's legal speak for 'this idea is stupid and we're ignoring it.'

Which other human sex would have eggs?

Intersex.

But then here's a kicker... What if you're a female without eggs due to some generic disorder? 

Or rather "the larger reproductive cell"? 

[Action80]

You are certainly allowed to think the EO means whatever you think it means.

Anybody is.

I am under the impression it means nothing else than what it was announced to be.

People who were born with a penis can no longer compete in sports with biological women. Any sports organization or school allowing this activity will no longer receive funding from the federal government.

That is all.

Not a big deal there are people who would disagree with this "common sense" EO.

Happens all the time.

[Dr Van Nostrand]

You are certainly allowed to think the EO means whatever you think it means.

Anybody is.

I am under the impression it means nothing else than what it was announced to be.

People who were born with a penis can no longer compete in sports with biological women. Any sports organization or school allowing this activity will no longer receive funding from the federal government.

That is all.

Not a big deal there are people who would disagree with this "common sense" EO.

Happens all the time.

What about people that are born with a large clitoris and a small penis? What about people with both sperm and eggs?
You and Trump have no business in other people's pants.

[Lord Dave]

You are certainly allowed to think the EO means whatever you think it means.

Anybody is.

I am under the impression it means nothing else than what it was announced to be.

People who were born with a penis can no longer compete in sports with biological women. Any sports organization or school allowing this activity will no longer receive funding from the federal government.

That is all.

Not a big deal there are people who would disagree with this "common sense" EO.

Happens all the time.

Then you read it wrong.

Can you quote the bit that says Penis?  Anywhere?

Because it seems the definition of male and female is listed in the other EO which is...


(d)  “Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

(e)  “Male” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.


No person belongs to any sex at conception as the sex organs haven't formed nor is it possible to determine what your sex is at conception via genetics.

[Action80]

I did read it.

And, as usual, persons who have no qualifications entitling them to be a licensed biologist in the US, are compelled to disagree with the EO signed by Trump.

Your objections are moot.

The order is signed.

I don't care about anything else you want to bring up.

[Dr Van Nostrand]

Your objections are moot.

The order is signed.

I don't care about anything else you want to bring up.

The Trumpian Manifesto

[Action80]

It can be labeled however you like or don't like.

I like the term "Trumpian Manifesto," though...kinda has a ring to it.

Either way, right now, it is just sour grapes.

Conversely, you can reboot the AI, manufacture a BS in science, become a biologist, and commence the reformation of society as we all know it.

[honk]

It's really interesting how the men who are deeply concerned about trans people ruining women's sports are the exact same men who ordinarily show zero interest in women's sports except to mock them. I'm qualifying this as "men" because there are a number of female transphobes, as well as a few mediocre female athletes who have seen profit in complaining about supposedly being unfairly beaten by trans athletes. But 100% of the men who treat this as a huge issue have nothing but disdain for women's sports to begin with. Not 90%, not 99%, 100%.

[Lord Dave]

I did read it.

And, as usual, persons who have no qualifications entitling them to be a licensed biologist in the US, are compelled to disagree with the EO signed by Trump.

Your objections are moot.

The order is signed.

I don't care about anything else you want to bring up.

And the person who wrote it has no qualifications entitling them to be a licensed biologist in the US, so whats the problem?

Yes the order is signed.
Yes there's nothing legal I can do about it.
But considering Republicans have spent the last 4 years bitching about an election they lost and complainign about EVERY GOD DAMN THING BIDEN HAS EVER DONE... I think I'm entitled to bitch.

[Action80]

I happen to watch a lot of women's tennis, women's soccer, women's volleyball, and women's college basketball.

I do not mock women's sports.

Women's sports are entirely different than men's sports.

Here we can see a prime example of an absolutely horrible man, along with his son and his wife, mocking his own daughter who happens to be a notable star in women's basketball.

Here you will find the picture of a man and a woman (who happens to be a top ten of all time winners in her sport). I am sure the man jeered and booed quite loudly each and every time she was successfully winning her 22 Grand Slam events.

So, you are wrong with your 100 percent crap and a total fucking ass.

[Action80]

Bitch away, LD, bitch away...

Triggered...LOL!

[Lord Dave]

Bitch away, LD, bitch away...

Triggered...LOL!

Yes. Evil does trigger me, thanks for noticing.

[Action80]

Bitch away, LD, bitch away...

Triggered...LOL!

Yes. Evil does trigger me, thanks for noticing. Not protecting women in sports is evil.

FTFY. NNTTM.

[Lord Dave]

Bitch away, LD, bitch away...

Triggered...LOL!

Yes. Evil does trigger me, thanks for noticing. Not protecting women in sports is evil.

FTFY. NNTTM.

You seem to misunderstand.
I think trans women shouldn't have any standing in women's sports.  Their "accomplishments" should count for nothing.  Compete?  In non-ranked games only.  So basically, being a trans woman wouldn't help you in a career in sports.  Or winning a school match.

But I think the sports agencies and such should determine that, not the president.

[honk]

Bitch away, LD, bitch away...

Triggered...LOL!

This is the real Trumpian Manifesto. At its core, it's a juvenile eagerness to upset, hurt, or otherwise oppress the people they hate. Conservatives don't vote in their own best interests; they vote in whatever they think will be the worst interests of the people they hate. They'd rather ensure everyone, including themselves, are miserable rather than be happy and risk the people they hate being happy too. The cruelty is the point.

[Tom Bishop]

But I think the sports agencies and such should determine that, not the president.

As Action80 stated, Trump isn't banning sports agencies from doing what they want with trans people. There can still be an organization that competes trans people against biological women. He is simply removing federal funding from organizations who want to do that, since it violates equal opportunity regulations.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/keeping-men-out-of-womens-sports/

Moreover, under Title IX of the Education Amendments Act of 1972 (Title IX), educational institutions receiving Federal funds cannot deny women an equal opportunity to participate in sports. As some Federal courts have recognized, “ignoring fundamental biological truths between the two sexes deprives women and girls of meaningful access to educational facilities.”  Tennessee v. Cardona, 24-cv-00072 at 73 (E.D. Ky. 2024). See also Kansas v. U.S. Dept. of Education, 24-cv-04041 at 23 (D. Kan. 2024) (highlighting “Congress’ goals of protecting biological women in education”).

Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in education programs receiving Federal financial assistance. The word sex refers to sexual biology, not social gender.

If someone somewhere wants to run an organization that does it, it does not appear to be banned. Just don't expect to be associated with federal tax dollars.