Re: Trump
« Reply #4040 on: July 17, 2019, 02:24:49 PM »
God like he doesn't understand how racist he is.  Or he does and doesn't care.
The worrying thing is none of his supporters care.
The crass impression of someone with disabilities should have been the end of him.
The grab 'em by the pussy tape should have been the end of him.
A load of things since should have been. But it doesn't matter. Much of what he says isn't true. Just clearly and demonstrably false. And it doesn't matter. There is no consequence.
It's pretty scary stuff.

He has the following of a fascist leader without the actual skill to use it beyond his own ego.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4041 on: July 17, 2019, 02:44:12 PM »
I was discussing with a friend earlier whether Trump is actually stupid or just pretending to be.
We were talking about Trump and Boris Johnson.
The way I see it, Boris's bumbling buffoon is a thin veneer beneath which lies a very cunning and intelligent person.
Trump is just a proper idiot. He knows how to whip up a crowd and he says things which superficially appeal to a certain demographic but I don't think it's an act.
I don't think he's shrewd, he's just a boarish oaf.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4042 on: July 17, 2019, 04:08:29 PM »
I was discussing with a friend earlier whether Trump is actually stupid or just pretending to be.
We were talking about Trump and Boris Johnson.
The way I see it, Boris's bumbling buffoon is a thin veneer beneath which lies a very cunning and intelligent person.
Trump is just a proper idiot. He knows how to whip up a crowd and he says things which superficially appeal to a certain demographic but I don't think it's an act.
I don't think he's shrewd, he's just a boarish oaf.

I've pondered along those lines a time or two.....

This is a double-edged sword. I would like to think Trump is literally just an idiot, and not pretending to be, but then roughly half of the US are also idiots because they voted for him. If Trump is pretending to be an idiot, that would hint at a larger conspiracy for which Trump is nothing more than a smoke screen to capture the American media along with the majority of American's influenced by media. That is a scary thought.... what is REALLY going on behind the curtain if our government has engineered this chaos?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4043 on: July 17, 2019, 05:06:45 PM »
I was discussing with a friend earlier whether Trump is actually stupid or just pretending to be.
We were talking about Trump and Boris Johnson.
The way I see it, Boris's bumbling buffoon is a thin veneer beneath which lies a very cunning and intelligent person.
Trump is just a proper idiot. He knows how to whip up a crowd and he says things which superficially appeal to a certain demographic but I don't think it's an act.
I don't think he's shrewd, he's just a boarish oaf.

I've pondered along those lines a time or two.....

This is a double-edged sword. I would like to think Trump is literally just an idiot, and not pretending to be, but then roughly half of the US are also idiots because they voted for him. If Trump is pretending to be an idiot, that would hint at a larger conspiracy for which Trump is nothing more than a smoke screen to capture the American media along with the majority of American's influenced by media. That is a scary thought.... what is REALLY going on behind the curtain if our government has engineered this chaos?

I think its kinda both but shallow.
Like he says these things because it riles up his base and he loves the praise.
He has teams of people telling him what to say for the biggest cheers.
He watches Fox and tweets when he see's something that makes him mad.
He assumes a position of power and to him, power is making others weaker.  So things like sudden, public firings or name calling are all ways to belittle his enemies so he appears stronger.

In the end, its all about him.  America could fall and as long as people loved him, he would not care.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4044 on: July 17, 2019, 09:00:58 PM »
Isn't it funny. The Squad is speaking up about the problems that exist in this country and that translates into hatred for America.

Trump built his campaign on the notion that there were deep problems with the country that needed to be fixed, hence "Make America Great Again". But he's a patriot, and they should go back where they came from (The Bronx, Detroit, and Chicago, in the case of three of the four women he was addressing)...

What difference is there, aside from skin color?

I don't think anybody other than the moronic, racist deplorables who make up his base is buying it. Or the notion that Pelosi and the Dems in Congress are supporting socialism by defending the targets of his vicious attacks, for that matter. That's just silly on the face of it.

But this is what he thinks he needs. He thinks that riling up those racist deplorables who make up his base is all he needs to do to win again. His other defense of those attacks? A lot of people agree with him! Well yes! As we've all been reminded in the past decade or so, and especially since Trump got elected, there are a lot of racists in this country! He is now baldly acknowledging that he recognizes that he got elected in the first place on the backs of racists. And why not? Even if he came out and said  "I am a racist" his collaborators in Congress would probably still support him! Of course his base will too as that's how he got elected in the first place.

Even when he tries to justify his words, surely with the help of professional Republican spin doctors who are used to cleaning up messes like this, he sounds like a racist. And again, it doesn't matter, unless it disgusts enough people in the handful of states that matter in the next election that he's voted out.

I'm not a religious man, but... let's pray.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4045 on: July 18, 2019, 02:41:18 AM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/17/foreign-purchases-of-american-homes-plunge-36percent-as-chinese-buyers-flee.html

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“We call it the Trump effect. It’s a combination of anti-Chinese political rhetoric, a clampdown on visa processing, and of course tariffs,” Carrie Law, CEO and director of Juwai.com, said in a recent interview.

Oh nooooooo, how horrible, terrible! Foreigners are no longer buying up real estate in American cities and driving up housing costs for the people who actually want to live there. This is just the worst!

Re: Trump
« Reply #4046 on: July 18, 2019, 04:35:29 AM »
Isn't it funny. The Squad is speaking up about the problems that exist in this country and that translates into hatred for America.

Trump built his campaign on the notion that there were deep problems with the country that needed to be fixed, hence "Make America Great Again". But he's a patriot, and they should go back where they came from (The Bronx, Detroit, and Chicago, in the case of three of the four women he was addressing)...

What difference is there, aside from skin color?

I don't think anybody other than the moronic, racist deplorables who make up his base is buying it. Or the notion that Pelosi and the Dems in Congress are supporting socialism by defending the targets of his vicious attacks, for that matter. That's just silly on the face of it.

But this is what he thinks he needs. He thinks that riling up those racist deplorables who make up his base is all he needs to do to win again. His other defense of those attacks? A lot of people agree with him! Well yes! As we've all been reminded in the past decade or so, and especially since Trump got elected, there are a lot of racists in this country! He is now baldly acknowledging that he recognizes that he got elected in the first place on the backs of racists. And why not? Even if he came out and said  "I am a racist" his collaborators in Congress would probably still support him! Of course his base will too as that's how he got elected in the first place.

Even when he tries to justify his words, surely with the help of professional Republican spin doctors who are used to cleaning up messes like this, he sounds like a racist. And again, it doesn't matter, unless it disgusts enough people in the handful of states that matter in the next election that he's voted out.

I'm not a religious man, but... let's pray.

You think he needs spin doctors?
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/17/742574640/trumps-racist-comments-find-support-in-montana

His own supporters do it for him.
And for a guy who "always says what he means" they sure do interprete alot.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4047 on: July 18, 2019, 05:17:45 AM »
I was discussing with a friend earlier whether Trump is actually stupid or just pretending to be.
We were talking about Trump and Boris Johnson.
The way I see it, Boris's bumbling buffoon is a thin veneer beneath which lies a very cunning and intelligent person.
Trump is just a proper idiot. He knows how to whip up a crowd and he says things which superficially appeal to a certain demographic but I don't think it's an act.
I don't think he's shrewd, he's just a boarish oaf.

While it's far from the brilliant multi-dimensional chess his fans like to dress it up as, there is some strategy behind his shitposting. Trump has clearly noticed by now how fatigued the nation is from the constant scandals and controversies surrounding him, to the degree that behavior that would have been shocking from any previous president now has us barely raising an eyebrow. I'm convinced he also times his shitposts to drive other scandals - ones involving more serious political and legal risks to him - out of the news and public consciousness. As for the election, he's clearly hoping that racist shit like this will bring out the base and excite the racists and shitlords he owes his popularity to. He doesn't need to worry about non-fringe Republicans, because they'll hold their nose and vote for him in November, just like they did back in 2016.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4048 on: July 18, 2019, 11:29:11 AM »
Trump is simply speaking out loud what every sane person in the US feels at the moment.

MLK, Jr. would disown every single one these supposed Democrats.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4049 on: July 18, 2019, 11:51:56 AM »
Trump is simply speaking out loud what every sane person in the US feels at the moment.

MLK, Jr. would disown every single one these supposed Democrats.

Please, do tell me the main points all 4 women have about America thats bad?

Please note that Trump himself said America was bad too, ya know before he got elected.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4050 on: July 18, 2019, 12:11:47 PM »
Trump is simply speaking out loud what every sane person in the US feels at the moment.

MLK, Jr. would disown every single one these supposed Democrats.

Please, do tell me the main points all 4 women have about America thats bad?

Please note that Trump himself said America was bad too, ya know before he got elected.
1 main point of all 4 women:
1) AOC - socialist whack job who auditioned for the part...
B) Omar is in the country illegally. She is a noted Anti-Semite.
III) Pressley thinks that people of color should all have the same thoughts and ideas...if not, they need to keep their mouths shut.
四) Tailib, also an Anti-Semite who thinks there is nothing wrong with yelling, "motherfucker," at a gathering of friends.
Please note Trump never stated America was bad.

Please note he stated those things that were wrong.

Please note he only stated he would make it right and make it great again.

Please note it is.

Please note it will continue to get better.

Please note the truth is not lost on his supporters.

Please note there will be continued weeping and gnashing of teeth in November of 2020...

Please note our beloved and illustrious SUPREME LEADER!!!

Please note these 4 women will not be doing anything but whining and bitching for the rest of their miserable lives.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4051 on: July 18, 2019, 12:30:03 PM »
Oh, one other thing...

Trump supporters don't mind the fact "anyonebuttrumpers," think we are stupid, idiotic, mindless, drones...

We know we are not and we enjoy each and every minute of the idiocy on display in the eyes of those with who remain clueless...quite laughable!

I mean, look at the meme above!

Re: Trump
« Reply #4052 on: July 18, 2019, 12:42:43 PM »
Oh, one other thing...

Trump supporters don't mind the fact "anyonebuttrumpers," think we are stupid, idiotic, mindless, drones...

We know we are not and we enjoy each and every minute of the idiocy on display in the eyes of those with who remain clueless...quite laughable!
Seriously though.
Why don't you care that so much of what Trump says is untrue? Just clearly, demonstrably untrue?
Why don't you care that he's literally on tape admitting sexual assault? There are a bunch of allegations but other women but forget that, he's literally on tape admitting he assaults women.
Why don't you care that he just suggested 4 black ladies should "go back where they came from" when 3 of them were born in the US and Trump himself has roots outside America and not that far back.

Doesn't any of this bother you? Why not?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4053 on: July 18, 2019, 12:43:16 PM »
Trump is simply speaking out loud what every sane person in the US feels at the moment.

MLK, Jr. would disown every single one these supposed Democrats.

Please, do tell me the main points all 4 women have about America thats bad?

Please note that Trump himself said America was bad too, ya know before he got elected.

Dave, you’re letting him off too easy. The real question is, “why does every sane American believe silly Xenophobic barbs?”

Regardless of what their politics are, his idiotic remarks do nothing but exacerbate the issues in American public discourse.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4054 on: July 18, 2019, 01:32:04 PM »
Seriously though.
Why don't you care that so much of what Trump says is untrue? Just clearly, demonstrably untrue?

Such as?

Why don't you care that he's literally on tape admitting sexual assault? There are a bunch of allegations but other women but forget that, he's literally on tape admitting he assaults women.

He's not on tape admitting sexual assault. No matter how many times people such as yourself repeat the same lie over and over again, it will not become true.

Why don't you care that he just suggested 4 black ladies should "go back where they came from" when 3 of them were born in the US and Trump himself has roots outside America and not that far back.

He didn't mention any names, but funny that four women stood up to claim he was referring to them.

Doesn't any of this bother you? Why not?

IMO the 'congresswoman' who married her brother should genuinely be deported back to Somalia.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4055 on: July 18, 2019, 01:44:39 PM »
Seriously though.
Why don't you care that so much of what Trump says is untrue? Just clearly, demonstrably untrue?
Such as?
Very quick Google:

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

Your other comments you're just being disingenuous.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4056 on: July 18, 2019, 01:51:42 PM »

Why don't you care that he's literally on tape admitting sexual assault? There are a bunch of allegations but other women but forget that, he's literally on tape admitting he assaults women.

He's not on tape admitting sexual assault. No matter how many times people such as yourself repeat the same lie over and over again, it will not become true.



Actually, I have heard said tape recording of Trump admitting to grabbing a woman by the "pussy". I know we have our disagreements, but I'm sure even you can admin that grabbing a woman by their genitals is sexual assault.

Edit: After reading the exact quote that AATW posted below, I will correct myself.... Trump technically didn't admit to grabbing women by their genitals. He DID admit to kissing them (which is still sexual assault), and he insinuates that grabbing their genitals is 'OK'. He also implies that he has done this himself.

Trump is simply speaking out loud what every sane person in the US feels at the moment.

MLK, Jr. would disown every single one these supposed Democrats.

Seriously? "Every sane person" feels the way trump speaks? This is a testament to just how divided this country is. You have anti-trumpers calling the other side idiots, and you have idiots, I mean pro-trumpers, calling the other side insane.
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« Reply #4057 on: July 18, 2019, 01:58:39 PM »
This is the exact quote:

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I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything

Now. Maybe the bit in bold is where Rushy is going. They let you do it. So maybe he's claiming that implies consent.
But at the very best it's not behaviour that any sensible person would find acceptable.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4058 on: July 18, 2019, 02:10:20 PM »
B) Omar is in the country illegally.
Incorrect.  She spent 4 years in a Kenyan refugee camp before receiving asylum in the US.

She is a noted Anti-Semite.
Criticizing Israel's treatment of Palestinians does not necessarily make one anti-Semitic.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4059 on: July 18, 2019, 02:18:41 PM »
How one could support a Semitic group against another Semitic group and be anti-Semitic is beyond me.
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