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Antisemitism in Europe
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:28:07 PM »
Just read an interesting article and thought I'd post it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/03/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/

The author is basically making the argument that after several decades of tolerance post-Holocaust, old-timey violent antisemitism is on the rise again in Europe. He claims that European jews are under attack not just by radical Islam as western media likes to portray, but also by increasingly popular fascist groups.

I'm not sure how I feel about it. I've never encountered antisemitism personally, despite my Jewish blood, but I also live in America. It seems like the author is making the argument that antisemitism runs too deeply in Europe ever to fade completely.
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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2015, 04:08:33 PM »
Israel is becoming more and more synonymous with everything that goes wrong in the Middle East. Their very existence stirs shit up constantly over there and they're been in perpetual cycles of cold and hot war for decades with pretty much all of their neighbors. Since Israel consistently claims itself to be a Jewish state, it is of no surprise that people start blaming Jews in general.

There are lots of Jews trying to shame Israel in order to separate themselves from it, but it simply isn't enough anymore. It doesn't help that many other Jews also refer to Jews criticizing Israel as "self-hating Jews" implying that Israel should be synonymous with Judaism, when it definitely shouldn't be.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 01:55:29 AM »
And then there are Jews like Yakov who turn people who didn't care about Jews into people who think maybe Hitler had a point.

Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 01:57:42 AM »
And then there are Jews like Yakov who turn people who didn't care about Jews into people who think maybe Hitler had a point.

Even if he is real, I doubt any Jewish person would hold a high opinion of someone who wants all muslims dead.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 02:59:17 AM »
Just read an interesting article and thought I'd post it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/03/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/

The author is basically making the argument that after several decades of tolerance post-Holocaust, old-timey violent antisemitism is on the rise again in Europe. He claims that European jews are under attack not just by radical Islam as western media likes to portray, but also by increasingly popular fascist groups.

people are sick of the jews' lies.....WWII/Holocaust for a start;
from which they've extorted $billions$ on the basis of a fraudelent hoax;

they're also nation wreckers and corrupters of traditional morality!
jews were behind feminism, pornography (including child porn'), homosexuality and abortion!
most abortion clinics are run by jews!  >:(

why is this so?

because, unlike all other religions, jews actively reject Jesus Christ!

that makes them ANTI-christs;

(*note*: i do not consider jews to be "a religion" or "a race"; rather, i consider them to be an international criminal gang with clear, psychopathic tendencies  :( )

so: the toll of misery and horror that these "devils in shoe leather" have inflicted on the world is almost incalculable!

they're the Devil's kids!   >:(

so....there are very good  reasons that these characters were run out of dozens of countries over the centuries!

just !Google! "what famous men said about the jews"....going all the way back to the ancient Roman statesman and
historian Cicero!

you'll soon "get the picture";

you'll get an even clearer one here
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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2015, 03:10:27 AM »
Mr. Bickles has issues. As for wanting all Muslims dead, I never claimed to want that. I do think all Arabs should be deported from Greater Israel, not that I ever expect it to happen. In fact, I think that the re-election of Netanyahu, while good from a right-wing standpoint, may spell serious trouble for a region already engulfed in problems. Granted, the other gentleman, Isaac Herzog, would have been a disaster just due to his lack of experience.

But Netanyahu now swinging from Right to Radical Right in order to claim the election is probably NOT a good thing. As much as I might personally approve of such, I'm not sure that it was politically wise.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2015, 03:21:26 AM »
But Netanyahu now swinging from Right to Radical Right in order to claim the election is probably NOT a good thing. As much as I might personally approve of such, I'm not sure that it was politically wise.

He knows the left has pretty much abandoned him and as such he does what every politician does when bipartisan is impossible, he panders to the most ridiculous portions of his base to ensure votes.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2015, 03:29:37 AM »
But Netanyahu now swinging from Right to Radical Right in order to claim the election is probably NOT a good thing. As much as I might personally approve of such, I'm not sure that it was politically wise.

He knows the left has pretty much abandoned him and as such he does what every politician does when bipartisan is impossible, he panders to the most ridiculous portions of his base to ensure votes.

As much as I have disagreed with you in the past, I think you might be right on this one. And another point that WILL come up again, is a matter that was discussed before he called for snap elections, which if you remember, were early. Israel is presently a "Democratic and Jewish State" that has recognition of nationalities. In other words, each religion and nationality is recognised as a group, and granted group rights. Netanyahu proposed making Israel a Jewish State with Halacha (Jewish Law) being the inspiration for legislation. In the process, he would eliminate the nationality protections. Although each individual citizen would continue to have human and civil rights to worship and live as they chose, those would no longer be protected communally, and all citizens would be expected to live under whatever laws were passed according to Halacha if such laws were passed.

Although I am personally in favour of this, I question Netanyahu's motives, his timings, and his reasoning. And I worry about more pandering to not only his Orthodox Right Wing, but even the Evangelical End Times nuts in this country that support Israel for their own perverse reasons. I just wonder, that's all.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2015, 03:32:52 AM »
I'm always disturbed when it comes to the people who literally believe that Israel is destined to cause the end of the world and want that to happen.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2015, 03:41:35 AM »
You aren't the only one. It scares the CRAP out of any sane human being, but Evangelicals are not known for their sanity. Anything but, in fact. The United States is a very strange country. Most other nations don't comprehend the weirdness of the religio-political landscape here. The fact that people actually want to teach Creationism in the public schools blows people's minds everywhere in the world (including in Israel) accept here. Even in Israel, the Biblical story is taught in Cheder (religious school that one attends after public school ends for the day) or in Yeshiva (religious schools that the Orthodox attend where they learn both the scientific and Biblical concepts).

America is just straight up strange. I have never understood it, and I was born and raised here. To all intents and purposes, I am an American. My family was completely non-Observant, totally American in every secular way. I became Observant as an adult. But I never understood this country, and still don't. Its straight up bizarre to my brain.

Go figure.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2015, 03:47:38 AM »
 
And I worry about more pandering to not only his Orthodox Right Wing, but even the Evangelical End Times nuts in this country that support Israel for their own perverse reasons. I just wonder, that's all.

any-one with more than a room temperature IQ knows what jews think of Christians;

they also know how jews treat Christians in their Talmudic gangster statelet of Isn'tReal;

you jews really are "the business";

you con good Christian people into supporting your gangster, terrorist enclave hook, line and sinker;
then, you corrupt their culture and traditional morality and, when you think no-one is looking, commit arson and murder against them with legal impunity!  >:(

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2015, 03:52:56 AM »
Such intense emotions are going to cause a heart attack or a stroke. I would advise caution, friend.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2015, 03:55:06 AM »
You aren't the only one. It scares the CRAP out of any sane human being, but Evangelicals are not known for their sanity. Anything but, in fact. The United States is a very strange country. Most other nations don't comprehend the weirdness of the religio-political landscape here. The fact that people actually want to teach Creationism in the public schools blows people's minds everywhere in the world (including in Israel) accept here. Even in Israel, the Biblical story is taught in Cheder (religious school that one attends after public school ends for the day) or in Yeshiva (religious schools that the Orthodox attend where they learn both the scientific and Biblical concepts).

America is just straight up strange. I have never understood it, and I was born and raised here. To all intents and purposes, I am an American. My family was completely non-Observant, totally American in every secular way. I became Observant as an adult. But I never understood this country, and still don't. Its straight up bizarre to my brain.

Go figure.

well....i guess all those freedoms (mostly based on the Common Law by way of the New Testament) would seem "weird" and "bizarre" to a Talmudic gangster and control freak pseudo-marxist....which is what jews are, in effect!

psychopaths and genocidists!

i guess it really must stick in your craw, that, unlike other gullible, goyim nations such as Australia and the UK, you haven't been able to quash freedom of speech, freedom of association (including religious observance) and freedom to own fire-arms in the US.....

150+ million heavily-armed US citizens is quite an impediment to a genocidist, psychopathic marxist tyranny like you people started in the USSR, eh?

if you don't like living there...why not move to Israel?

oh....that's right!

hardly any jews actually 'want' to live there....they only want it as a "bolt-hole"....a gangster's hide-out....from which they can't be extradited for their innumerable crimes?

right?

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2015, 03:57:08 AM »
Such an emotional response. You must control yourself, friend. Such emotions will be your undoing.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2015, 03:58:18 AM »
i guess it really must stick in your craw, jew-boy,

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2015, 04:05:40 AM »
i guess it really must stick in your craw, jew-boy,

Please do not do that in the upper fora. Warned

fixed....some-times i don't thoroughly re-read every-thing i post....i just 'scan' it....
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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2015, 04:07:10 AM »
The correct verb would be "skim".

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2015, 04:23:28 AM »
well....i guess all those freedoms (mostly based on the Common Law by way of the New Testament) would seem "weird" and "bizarre" to a Talmudic gangster and control freak pseudo-marxist....which is what jews are, in effect!

psychopaths and genocidists!

i guess it really must stick in your craw, that, unlike other gullible, goyim nations such as Australia and the UK, you haven't been able to quash freedom of speech, freedom of association (including religious observance) and freedom to own fire-arms in the US.....

Except that Australia has virtually NO Jews in it, as they make up only 0.04% of the population. Pretty hard to influence religious observance, or anything else there. And the UK hasn't got very many either. In fact, they are far more worried about the fact that they are teeming with Muslims.

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150+ million heavily-armed US citizens is quite an impediment to a genocidist, psychopathic marxist tyranny like you people started in the USSR, eh?

if you don't like living there...why not move to Israel?

oh....that's right!

hardly any jews actually 'want' to live there....they only want it as a "bolt-hole"....a gangster's hide-out....from which they can't be extradited for their innumerable crimes?

Actually, no, Israel and the US routinely extradite criminals (usually Jewish, most often dual citizens) back and forth to each other when crimes are committed in one place and then the individual flees to another. I would get my facts straight before I attempted to to pontificate, for fear I might look a little silly, friend.

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2015, 04:37:55 AM »

Except that Australia has virtually NO Jews in it, as they make up only 0.04% of the population. Pretty hard to influence religious observance, or anything else there. And the UK hasn't got very many either. In fact, they are far more worried about the fact that they are teeming with Muslims

"muslims" are, largely, a jew-created bogey-man!
since many of the "terrorist acts" attributed to them are either false flags or out-right hoaxes.....

also: jews lie about their numbers in census forms;
the Australian census form, like the US census form, lists jew as "a religion" ;
Melbourne, Victoria and Sydney, New South Wales, have several hundred thousand jews that are known about and acknowledged;
so, there's up to ¾ million jews in Australia that are known about.....
just that alone is enough if they wield considerable power way out of proportion to their numbers....as they do...constituting, in fact, 80% of Australia's richest families.....
they also wield not inconsiderable political power...with several jews in the current Parliament and in past Parliaments at the ministerial level....

 


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Actually, no, Israel and the US routinely extradite criminals (usually Jewish, most often dual citizens) back and forth to each other when crimes are committed in one place and then the individual flees to another. I would get my facts straight before I attempted to to pontificate, for fear I might look a little silly, friend.



do you deny that there have been many instances where jews have "fled justice" and escaped to Israel?
(several times in the past from the US)

i'm also thinking of some right now......jews that have fled from Australia to escape investigation into pædophilic-type activities.....

admittedly, AFAIK, they hadn't been formally charged....

but, quite clearly, they view it as a hide-out.....

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Re: Antisemitism in Europe
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2015, 04:53:05 AM »

Except that Australia has virtually NO Jews in it, as they make up only 0.04% of the population. Pretty hard to influence religious observance, or anything else there. And the UK hasn't got very many either. In fact, they are far more worried about the fact that they are teeming with Muslims

"muslims" are, largely, a jew-created bogey-man!
since many of the "terrorist acts" attributed to them are either false flags or out-right hoaxes.....

Of course, the fact that Muslims are usually bluntly honest and admit when they blow shit up doesn't in any way affect your perversely warped way of thinking. Then again, anybody who denies the Holocaust has serious personal and mental issues that probably need medication and hospitalisation to deal with them.

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also: jews lie about their numbers in census forms;
the Australian census form, like the US census form, lists jew as "a religion" ;

Incidentally, the word "Jew" is supposed to be capitalised, since it is a noun. I realise that you do not know how to use the English language. Perhaps a handbook of style would be beneficial to you. You can find one at your local bookstore.

And I don't know about other Jews, as I have never asked, but when I do census forms, I list myself as ethnically white, and then write in under the "other" category "Jewish". I also list Jewish in my religious preference.

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Melbourne, Victoria and Sydney, New South Wales, have several hundred thousand jews that are known about and acknowledged;
so, there's up to ¾ million jews in Australia that are known about.....
just that alone is enough if they wield considerable power way out of proportion to their numbers....as they do...constituting, in fact, 80% of Australia's richest families.....
they also wield not inconsiderable political power...with several jews in the current Parliament and in past Parliaments at the ministerial level....

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Actually, no, Israel and the US routinely extradite criminals (usually Jewish, most often dual citizens) back and forth to each other when crimes are committed in one place and then the individual flees to another. I would get my facts straight before I attempted to to pontificate, for fear I might look a little silly, friend.



do you deny that there have been many instances where jews have "fled justice" and escaped to Israel?
(several times in the past from the US)

It has happened, but no moreso than people have fled to any other country to avoid US justice and gotten away with it.

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i'm also thinking of some right now......jews that have fled from Australia to escape investigation into pædophilic-type activities.....

admittedly, AFAIK, they hadn't been formally charged....

but, quite clearly, they view it as a hide-out.....

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You seem to have a preoccupation with pedophilia. That is rather interesting. I don't deny that there are Jews involved in that filthy practice. But what about all the Gentiles that indulge therein?
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