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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2014, 02:38:25 AM »
15 million dollars is nothing for a movie. They spent about 50 million on it

That's 15 million in four days, for a movie that hasn't gotten a widespread theatrical release yet.

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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2014, 02:39:27 AM »
15 million dollars is nothing for a movie. They spent about 50 million on it
I don't understand how you can take a statement like this:

Controversial Sony film The Interview has become the number one online movie ever released by the studio just four days after its release on 24 December.

And follow it up with "Meh, it's nothing extraordinary". We've already established that it is quite extraordinary, stating otherwise with no argumentation is just poor form.

Also, $15 million in 4 days and before it even premiered internationally seems like a good prognosis for profit.
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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2014, 02:40:17 AM »
15 million dollars is nothing for a movie. They spent about 50 million on it

That's 15 million in four days, for a movie that hasn't gotten a widespread theatrical release yet.

Oh, if it's getting a widespread theatrical release I agree. But I'd imagine most of the people planning on watching it online already have. I just can't see it making 50 million online given current stats
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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2014, 02:41:26 AM »
Oh, if it's getting a widespread theatrical release I agree. But I'd imagine most of the people planning on watching it online already have.
If by "people" you mean "Americans", you might have half a case there. Otherwise, you might want to wait until it's been released internationally.
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« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2014, 02:50:48 AM »
A movie this mainstream getting such a tiny release is still a pretty terrible return on Sony's investment.  If any of you think that this is vindication for the "It's all a marketing scheme!" theory, I assure you that you're very, very wrong.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30620926

VERY, VERY WRONG

What does that have to do with it?  I was talking about the tiny theatrical release.  This is something quite different.

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« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2014, 03:02:16 AM »
What does that have to do with it?  I was talking about the tiny theatrical release.  This is something quite different.
If they're making mad cash money bucks, who cares how they're making them? The marketing stunt clearly worked.
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« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2014, 03:12:23 AM »
Also, $15 million in 4 days and before it even premiered internationally seems like a good prognosis for profit.
Are you suggesting that YouTube doesn't count as an international release?
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« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2014, 03:17:19 AM »
Also, $15 million in 4 days and before it even premiered internationally seems like a good prognosis for profit.
Are you suggesting that YouTube doesn't count as an international release?

Considering that downloads were locked to the US to satisfy contract agreements with major stakeholders, no.

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« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2014, 03:23:22 AM »
What does that have to do with it?  I was talking about the tiny theatrical release.  This is something quite different.
If they're making mad cash money bucks, who cares how they're making them? The marketing stunt clearly worked.

The method of release is relevant because Blanko is calling my claim that a limited theatrical release would not turn the film into a financial success wrong, apparently based on the fact that the online release is a success.  I never made any grand overall claim that anything Sony ever tried to do to make money off the film was doomed to failure.

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« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2014, 03:24:38 AM »
Are you suggesting that YouTube doesn't count as an international release?
Certainly. My parents, for one, would love to watch the movie, but they're going to wait for late January. The same applies to most non-English speakers. The population of Europe, for one, is twice that of the USA. You evil selfish imperialists, you.

The method of release is relevant because Blanko is calling my claim that a limited theatrical release would not turn the film into a financial success wrong
Well, yes, it is wrong. They did it, and now they're making mad cash because of it. The limited release turned it into a financial success.
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« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2014, 03:31:34 AM »
Well, yes, it is wrong. They did it, and now they're making mad cash because of it. The limited release turned it into a financial success.

No, they're making mad cash because they released in online, not because of the theatrical release:

http://news.yahoo.com/interview-takes-1-million-limited-release-210559162.html

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« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2014, 09:24:19 AM »
What difference does it make? They're making mad cash either way.

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« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2014, 02:56:59 PM »
Saddam is just mad because he genuinely believes Kim is a god and thought that the mighty North Korean Empire had finally crushed the pathetic western media once and for all.

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« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2014, 03:00:19 PM »
I was hoping they'd do horribly because I'm tired of bad Seth Rogan movies.

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« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2014, 03:01:04 PM »
I was hoping they'd do horribly because I'm tired of bad Seth Rogan movies.

How do you know if it is bad? You haven't seen it.

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« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2014, 03:51:13 PM »
I was hoping they'd do horribly because I'm tired of bad Seth Rogan movies.

How do you know if it is bad? You haven't seen it.
Trailers typically show the best parts of a movie. The trailer was awful.

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« Reply #56 on: December 29, 2014, 04:01:24 PM »
Trailers typically show the best parts of a movie. The trailer was awful.

How do you know if it is bad? You haven't seen it.

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« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2014, 04:02:49 PM »
Trailers typically show the best parts of a movie. The trailer was awful.

How do you know if it is bad? You haven't seen it.

Trailers typically show the best parts of a movie. The trailer was awful.
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« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2014, 04:06:16 PM »
Thanks for the recap, sweety pie, RushRush. I had already forgotten what I said.

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« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2014, 04:56:25 PM »
So, we can leave with the conclusion that the answer to "How do you know it's awful?" is "I don't"? Because I asked again, just to make sure whether or not that was the case.