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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2014, 02:47:58 AM »
I'm not convinced this isn't just a marketing ploy.

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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2014, 03:12:49 AM »
I'm not convinced this isn't just a marketing ploy.

You were wrong about February at least.

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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2014, 04:07:36 AM »
I think canceling wasn't a good marketing ploy, I think it'll scare many dum Americans away, they'll fear being attacked
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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2014, 04:20:54 AM »
I think canceling wasn't a good marketing ploy, I think it'll scare many dum Americans away, they'll fear being attacked

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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2014, 04:35:32 AM »
I think canceling wasn't a good marketing ploy, I think it'll scare many dum Americans away, they'll fear being attacked


It's all about recognition. Box office sales are good, but so are DVD/Bluray sales. If someone's afraid for their life going to the theater that person will probably pick it up retail.

Or they will pirate it.

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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2014, 06:19:56 AM »
A movie this mainstream getting such a tiny release is still a pretty terrible return on Sony's investment.  If any of you think that this is vindication for the "It's all a marketing scheme!" theory, I assure you that you're very, very wrong.

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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2014, 11:57:49 AM »
A movie this mainstream getting such a tiny release is still a pretty terrible return on Sony's investment.  If any of you think that this is vindication for the "It's all a marketing scheme!" theory, I assure you that you're very, very wrong.

Don't do that.

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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2014, 01:18:18 PM »
I assure you that you're very, very wrong.
Well, now that we have official Saddam reassurance, we can put that one to rest.
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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2014, 02:03:52 PM »
I still think it looks like a shit movie and will not be seeing it.

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« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2014, 04:40:31 PM »
A movie this mainstream getting such a tiny release is still a pretty terrible return on Sony's investment.  If any of you think that this is vindication for the "It's all a marketing scheme!" theory, I assure you that you're very, very wrong.

Because artificially limiting who gets to see it in theaters won't increase the amount of people buying the movie on DVD. Clearly only the great Saddam's marketing opinion matters.

Most movies don't even break even on theater releases. DVD release is when the big bucks are made.

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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2014, 04:45:37 PM »
I still think it looks like a shit movie and will not be seeing it.

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« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2014, 05:29:12 PM »
Well, now that we have official Saddam reassurance, we can put that one to rest.

Quite.

Because artificially limiting who gets to see it in theaters won't increase the amount of people buying the movie on DVD. Clearly only the great Saddam's marketing opinion matters.

Most movies don't even break even on theater releases. DVD release is when the big bucks are made.

This isn't just wrong, it's ridiculous.  Yes, DVD sales have sometimes turned box office bombs into financial successes, but the idea that any studio would be willing to bet on that happening to the agree that they deliberately sabotage their own box office prospects - and the hundreds of millions of dollars in profits they could quite possibly make - is absurd.

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« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2014, 05:49:16 PM »
This isn't just wrong, it's ridiculous.  Yes, DVD sales have sometimes turned box office bombs into financial successes, but the idea that any studio would be willing to bet on that happening to the agree that they deliberately sabotage their own box office prospects - and the hundreds of millions of dollars in profits they could quite possibly make - is absurd.

An argument that the idea of a marketing ploy is ridiculous still falls flat on its face. The idea that the movie release is limited by North Korea is entirely more ridiculous than a marketing ploy. This is the same country that threatens to nuke America at least once a year and also threatens South Korea with "unspecified consequences"  because their Christmas tree is psychological warfare. If we're going to choose theories based on how ridiculous they are, then the idea that this is just a marketing game by Sony is infinitely more likely than North Korea forcing them to not release it in theaters.
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« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2014, 07:11:53 PM »
This isn't just wrong, it's ridiculous.  Yes, DVD sales have sometimes turned box office bombs into financial successes, but the idea that any studio would be willing to bet on that happening to the agree that they deliberately sabotage their own box office prospects - and the hundreds of millions of dollars in profits they could quite possibly make - is absurd.

An argument that the idea of a marketing ploy is ridiculous still falls flat on its face. The idea that the movie release is limited by North Korea is entirely more ridiculous than a marketing ploy. This is the same country that threatens to nuke America at least once a year and also threatens South Korea with "unspecified consequences"  because their Christmas tree is psychological warfare. If we're going to choose theories based on how ridiculous they are, then the idea that this is just a marketing game by Sony is infinitely more likely than North Korea forcing them to not release it in theaters.
But it doesn't have to be the government specifically.  Could just be a loyalist with a computer and several incriminating e-mails.
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« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2014, 07:55:15 PM »
But it doesn't have to be the government specifically.  Could just be a loyalist with a computer and several incriminating e-mails.

If that were true, then why release the movie at all? Why would a hacker with incriminating information say "you can only release this movie in very small amounts or else!"? That doesn't make any sense, either.

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« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2014, 08:02:12 PM »
But it doesn't have to be the government specifically.  Could just be a loyalist with a computer and several incriminating e-mails.

If that were true, then why release the movie at all? Why would a hacker with incriminating information say "you can only release this movie in very small amounts or else!"? That doesn't make any sense, either.
Considering we're only getting one side of the story (the public side) there isn't much that will make sense, I think.
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« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2014, 08:33:24 PM »
The Interview is now available for purchase on Google Play Store, ITunes, and other online stores.

Now we just wait for the sales figures.

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« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2014, 08:39:09 PM »
So here's a theory:
There was a credible hack threat.  They said they would stop release.  Once they upgraded their security or somehow stopped the hacking from occurring, they then re-released it.


Or it's a giant publicity stunt.
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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2014, 02:14:28 AM »
A movie this mainstream getting such a tiny release is still a pretty terrible return on Sony's investment.  If any of you think that this is vindication for the "It's all a marketing scheme!" theory, I assure you that you're very, very wrong.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30620926

VERY, VERY WRONG

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Re: Sony caves to threats
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2014, 02:35:05 AM »
15 million dollars is nothing for a movie. They spent about 50 million on it
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