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Is your government spying on you.
« on: November 22, 2014, 06:54:43 PM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/amnestys-detekt-tool-knows-your-4657462

I just got a new laptop, so its unlikely I have anything untoward on there. But I wonder if any of you might scan and find evidence of your government creeping on you. Post if you have anything juicy. :-)

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2014, 07:01:53 PM »
This is Windows-only software. Windows is a terrible choice of OS to begin with if you don't want to be spied on; since its source code can't be audited, there is no way to be certain that the OS is even correctly reporting details of such files.

If this tool detects something, good for you. If it doesn't, you're no better off than you were before you ran it. If you can't trust the OS, all bets are off.
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2014, 07:14:16 PM »
This is Windows-only software.
The most popular OS in the world.

If you can't trust the OS, all bets are off.
Would I trust an OS written by the best developers money can buy, or one written by a few guys in their bedrooms?

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2014, 07:18:37 PM »
This is Windows-only software.
The most popular OS in the world.

Either irrelevant or argumentum ad populum, depending on whether you intended an implicit conclusion based on this statement.

Would I trust an OS written by the best developers money can buy, or one written by a few guys in their bedrooms?

Irrelevant, given that no other OS has been compared to Windows in this thread.
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2014, 07:41:45 PM »
Th*rk would rather trust an OS written by a money-hungry and corrupt corporation which source-code he can't view than an OS written by a few well-meaning fellows in their bedrooms which source code he can view.
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2014, 08:05:17 PM »
Would I trust an OS written by the best developers money can buy, or one written by a few guys in their bedrooms?
If Microsoft's developers are so good, then why do their OSes need weekly critical updates?
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2014, 08:13:30 PM »
Should have known this would become a Windows vs. Linux thread.

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2014, 08:19:46 PM »
Lol, vs Linux. Like its a viable alternative or something.  ;D

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2014, 08:21:13 PM »
Should have known this would become a Windows vs. Linux thread.

Did someone mention Linux?

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 08:23:23 PM »
Should have known this would become a Windows vs. Linux thread.

Did someone mention Linux?

Oh so they're talking about OS X then. Gotcha.

Because that's totally made by some well-meaning fellows in a bedroom...

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2014, 08:26:56 PM »
Should have known this would become a Windows vs. Linux thread.

Did someone mention Linux?

Oh so they're talking about OS X then.

You would have to ask Thork what other OS he is referring to. I have merely pointed out some disadvantages of Windows. However, I can assure you that there exist more than three operating systems.
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2014, 08:30:43 PM »
However, I can assure you that there exist more than three operating systems.

I can't name many that are viable alternatives to Windows other than Linux-based systems and OS X.

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2014, 08:33:26 PM »
However, I can assure you that there exist more than three operating systems.

I can't name many that are viable alternatives to Windows other than Linux-based systems and OS X.
Linux is not a viable alternative to Windows. If it was, companies all over the world would be using it because it is free.

Inb4server red-herring. This is about desktop and anti-spying before the butthurt Linux-fanboys hijacked it.

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2014, 08:35:38 PM »
However, I can assure you that there exist more than three operating systems.

I can't name many that are viable alternatives to Windows other than Linux-based systems and OS X.
Linux is not a viable alternative to Windows. If it was, companies all over the world would be using it because it is free.
They are, just not for desktops.  Know why?  Because windows is what most people know and training both users and IT staff to use Linux is harder than just going with Windows.

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2014, 08:35:53 PM »
However, I can assure you that there exist more than three operating systems.

I can't name many that are viable alternatives to Windows other than Linux-based systems and OS X.
Linux is not a viable alternative to Windows. If it was, companies all over the world would be using it because it is free.

Linux is a viable alternative. It's more secure, free, and can do mostly everything Windows is capable of. Windows is just extremely popular and has big dev support making updates/fixes a lot more convenient. Windows is usually easier for a company to manage compared to Linux, but that doesn't mean Linux isn't a viable alternative to Windows. Most of the US government uses Linux based systems, so it's obviously viable if you're willing to put in the effort.
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2014, 08:53:20 PM »
They are, just not for desktops.  Know why?  Because windows is what most people know and training both users and IT staff to use Linux is harder than just going with Windows.
Incorrect. Companies use OSX (my company being a prime example) and they don't care that new staff need training. But Linux doesn't enter into it.

Linux is a viable alternative. It's more secure, free, and can do mostly everything Windows is capable of. Windows is just extremely popular and has big dev support making updates/fixes a lot more convenient. Windows is usually easier for a company to manage compared to Linux, but that doesn't mean Linux isn't a viable alternative to Windows. Most of the US government uses Linux based systems, so it's obviously viable if you're willing to put in the effort.
Its not viable. If it was, people would use it. Its as simple as that.

Linux ... they can't even give it away.

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2014, 08:59:16 PM »
Once again Thork assumes that his employer is the paragon of business & technological excellence.

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2014, 09:00:36 PM »
They are, just not for desktops.  Know why?  Because windows is what most people know and training both users and IT staff to use Linux is harder than just going with Windows.
Incorrect. Companies use OSX (my company being a prime example) and they don't care that new staff need training. But Linux doesn't enter into it.
Name six that use OSX as their only OS. (not including Apple)

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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2014, 09:24:56 PM »
They are, just not for desktops.  Know why?  Because windows is what most people know and training both users and IT staff to use Linux is harder than just going with Windows.
Incorrect. Companies use OSX (my company being a prime example) and they don't care that new staff need training. But Linux doesn't enter into it.
Name six that use OSX as their only OS. (not including Apple)
No massive company will have 100% Apple the same as no company will have 100% PC.

But below are 6 prolific Mac using corps.

Cisco -now have over 35,000 macs.
CBS
Pixar
Google
Viacom
IBM

As for companies that aren't huge, millions of companies use macs - anyone developing apps and phone software, games companies, graphic design companies ...

Give me 6 multi-national firms that issue Linux to employees as the predominant desktop platform.
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Re: Is your government spying on you.
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2014, 09:28:04 PM »
They are, just not for desktops.  Know why?  Because windows is what most people know and training both users and IT staff to use Linux is harder than just going with Windows.
Incorrect. Companies use OSX (my company being a prime example) and they don't care that new staff need training. But Linux doesn't enter into it.
Name six that use OSX as their only OS. (not including Apple)
No massive company will have 100% Apple the same as no company will have 100% PC.

But below are 6 prolific Mac using corps.

Cisco -now have over 35,000 macs.
CBS
Pixar
Google
Viacom
IBM

As for companies that are huge, millions of companies use macs - anyone developing apps and phone software, games companies, graphic design companies ...

Give me 6 multi-national firms that issue Linux to employees as the predominant desktop platform.

Google and IBM both use Linux. Fuck, Google's own operating systems are Linux based. Try again.