Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2020, 02:25:40 PM »
That does not change the fact that gas expelled into a vacuum does 0 work.
OK.
And now all you have to do is show a link from a credible scientist who agrees with you that this means that rockets don't work in space.
Can you just post it when you find it so I can have a look. Thanks.
"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
- An excerpt from the account of the Bishop Experiment. My emphasis

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2020, 04:22:57 PM »
That does not change the fact that gas expelled into a vacuum does 0 work.
OK.
And now all you have to do is show a link from a credible scientist who agrees with you that this means that rockets don't work in space.
Can you just post it when you find it so I can have a look. Thanks.
If you read my posts, I have written that rockets don't work in a vacuum.

All scientists agree with this.

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2020, 04:27:23 PM »
All scientists agree with this.

Sorry, not a credible answer. Nobody will believe you have spoken with them all.
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Nearly all flat earthers agree the earth is not a globe.

Nearly?

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2020, 04:28:57 PM »
All scientists agree with this.

Sorry, not a credible answer. Nobody will believe you have spoken with them all.
I don't need to speak with all of them.

Who said I did?

You know, it's like the kangaroos...I don't need to see one in Australia to know that 0 scientists disagree with free expansion of gas into a vacuum.

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2020, 04:44:05 PM »
That does not change the fact that gas expelled into a vacuum does 0 work.
OK.
And now all you have to do is show a link from a credible scientist who agrees with you that this means that rockets don't work in space.
Can you just post it when you find it so I can have a look. Thanks.
If you read my posts, I have written that rockets don't work in a vacuum.

All scientists agree with this.
Great. All I've asked for is a link to an article by a credible scientist saying that rockets don't work in a vacuum.
If they all agree with it then that shouldn't be too hard to find.
"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
- An excerpt from the account of the Bishop Experiment. My emphasis

totallackey

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #145 on: February 18, 2020, 04:54:42 PM »
That does not change the fact that gas expelled into a vacuum does 0 work.
OK.
And now all you have to do is show a link from a credible scientist who agrees with you that this means that rockets don't work in space.
Can you just post it when you find it so I can have a look. Thanks.
If you read my posts, I have written that rockets don't work in a vacuum.

All scientists agree with this.
Great. All I've asked for is a link to an article by a credible scientist saying that rockets don't work in a vacuum.
If they all agree with it then that shouldn't be too hard to find.
All I have posted here is the sheer science of the matter.

You have posted a video of a guy who is tapping on a malfunctioning gauge (with no real rocket in sight, by the way) as evidence rockets do work in a vacuum. When asked for a scientific paper concerning proper protocol for the amount of force to be applied to each tap and the number of taps to be administered to a malfunctioning gauge, the answer is...

Nothing in response.

In addition, you posted a video of a guy who had mounted two model rocket engines inside what is purported to be a vacuum chamber and then fires them off.

I write purported to be, because the same guy WILLINGLY ADMITS the chamber isn't... A VACUUM!!!

Just a couple of minutes in, he looks at the inside of it and states in the video, "Hopefully, this water isn't going to cause to much trouble...it will limit the amount of vacuum I can achieve..."

He tries to get the rocket motor to ignite...fails twice...

Finally, places the rocket motor inside a SEALED AND PRESSURIZED CONTAINER to get it to work inside a container (not a vacuum, but pressure lowered to 15 on the gauge)...

Jeez Louise...

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.

But, they all know that free expansion is real and proven...

But, they all know that rockets are real and just containers of gas...

And finally, they all know that rockets cannot work in a vacuum.
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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #146 on: February 20, 2020, 08:30:59 AM »

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.


...and what does that tell you?  ::)
The person in my avatar does not exist, and that's unsettling.

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #147 on: February 20, 2020, 11:19:46 AM »

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.


...and what does that tell you?  ::)
That tells me they don't want to lose any money.

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #148 on: February 20, 2020, 11:33:18 AM »

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.


...and what does that tell you?  ::)
That tells me they don't want to lose any money.

Every physicist/scientist in the world (or at least those with an interest in rockets/vacuums) is just ignoring the facts to keep getting funding? Even those who are in self-funded higher-education, for example?  Wouldn't that be worth a Nobel Prize, being able to prove Lackeys Law?

The person in my avatar does not exist, and that's unsettling.

totallackey

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #149 on: February 20, 2020, 12:08:03 PM »

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.


...and what does that tell you?  ::)
That tells me they don't want to lose any money.

Every physicist/scientist in the world (or at least those with an interest in rockets/vacuums) is just ignoring the facts to keep getting funding? Even those who are in self-funded higher-education, for example?  Wouldn't that be worth a Nobel Prize, being able to prove Lackeys Law?
The law of free expansion has already been proven...all the videos posted here continue to prove it.

No Nobel Prize for demonstrating a known law.

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #150 on: February 20, 2020, 12:48:33 PM »
The law of free expansion has already been proven...
But you are the only one claiming a link between that and conservation of momentum not working for rockets in space.
The Nobel Prize awaits you if you can prove that link as it seems to have eluded scientists. And rockets, come to think of it, which seem to work perfectly fine.
"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
- An excerpt from the account of the Bishop Experiment. My emphasis

totallackey

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #151 on: February 20, 2020, 03:17:45 PM »
The law of free expansion has already been proven...
But you are the only one claiming a link between that and conservation of momentum not working for rockets in space.
The Nobel Prize awaits you if you can prove that link as it seems to have eluded scientists. And rockets, come to think of it, which seem to work perfectly fine.
Of course rockets work.

I have never written that rockets don't work.

I have written that rockets do not work in a vacuum.

And all the videos you have posted bear this fact out quite nicely.

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #152 on: February 20, 2020, 03:26:21 PM »
The law of free expansion has already been proven...
But you are the only one claiming a link between that and conservation of momentum not working for rockets in space.
The Nobel Prize awaits you if you can prove that link as it seems to have eluded scientists. And rockets, come to think of it, which seem to work perfectly fine.

And all the videos you have posted bear this fact out quite nicely.
Someone posted a video of the moon lander launching from the moons surface and you just yelled fake with no evidence, so I doubt any video would change your mind since you're unwilling to take anything that goes against your belief seriously.
Tom is wrong most of the time. Hardly big news, don't you think?

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #153 on: February 20, 2020, 03:59:37 PM »
I have written that rockets do not work in a vacuum.
Yes, and as everyone keeps explaining to you, you are incorrect.
Rockets work by conservation of momentum. The gas has momentum when propelled from the rocket with explosive force.
It's being propelled away from the rocket thus has velocity, it obviously has mass. Momentum = mass x velocity.
So rockets work in a vacuum, it's nothing to do with the gas pushing against anything.
If you can find a scientist who agrees with you then please post a link to their article on the subject.
I note you continue to be unable to. :)
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"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
- An excerpt from the account of the Bishop Experiment. My emphasis

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #154 on: February 20, 2020, 04:05:08 PM »
Kinda of off topic, I just discovered that Brian May :) is astronomer.




 
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #155 on: February 20, 2020, 05:05:42 PM »
Every person who has any intelligence knows it was all fake...Hello !!!

What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #156 on: February 20, 2020, 05:10:07 PM »
Hey Evil = Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart knows nuttin about space, he keeps admitting to knowing jack. He's a composer of muszac !
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #157 on: February 20, 2020, 05:21:22 PM »

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.


...and what does that tell you?  ::)

Science is controlled .
The law of free expansion has already been proven...

But you are the only one claiming a link between that and conservation of momentum not working for rockets in space.
The Nobel Prize awaits you if you can prove that link as it seems to have eluded scientists. And rockets, come to think of it, which seem to work perfectly fine.

Is your space a vacuum ? Are you changing your argument ?
There is no repeatable scientific experiment proving a rocket engine works in a vacuum . That's why no one can link to any. That's also why Joules gas law is a scientific law , because if science could show that  a rocket engine ( a reactive engine ) produces work in a vacuum then we wouldn't have that law of  Joules .

Nasa provides a nice drawing here of a rocket - shows the principles of rocket thrust - although the written explanation is garbage apart from the first sentence .
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/rocket/TRCRocket/rocket_principles.html

Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #158 on: February 20, 2020, 06:42:23 PM »
Here is the first hit by google to the search term "scientific experiment proving a rocket engine works in a vacuum"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Re: More fake moon landing proof.
« Reply #159 on: February 21, 2020, 08:56:21 AM »

No scientist would ever publish a paper admitting they know rockets cannot work in a vacuum.


...and what does that tell you?  ::)

Science is controlled .


You're going to have to elaborate on that one.
The person in my avatar does not exist, and that's unsettling.