Quote from: inquisitive on March 18, 2014, 07:47:44 AMHow about you come up with a proposal using the ionosphere and show how it would work. With enough design details for review.Why are you so afraid of backing up your claims? C'mon, pick one and write about it in more than one sentence. You can do it, inquisitive. I believe in you. You can finally prove that you're not a complete waste of time to all of us!
How about you come up with a proposal using the ionosphere and show how it would work. With enough design details for review.
If you can't demonstrate it, then you shouldn't believe it.
Meanwhile, we know that satellites provide us with communications, and have done for many years.
Why is it that RE'ers are obligated to show why FET doesn't work but FE'ers aren't obligated show why FET does work? Seriously, how can Inquisitive properly refute Thork's ionospheric skip proposal when Thork did not provide a workable proposal to refute?
If we are not speculating then we must assume
Quote from: inquisitive on March 18, 2014, 12:09:37 PMMeanwhile, we know that satellites provide us with communications, and have done for many years.You have yet to substantiate that.Quote from: markjo on March 18, 2014, 12:33:56 PMWhy is it that RE'ers are obligated to show why FET doesn't work but FE'ers aren't obligated show why FET does work? Seriously, how can Inquisitive properly refute Thork's ionospheric skip proposal when Thork did not provide a workable proposal to refute?He can't, and I'm not asking for that. I'm asking that he substantiates his own claims. Thork at least made a sloppy attempt.
Quote from: pizaaplanet on March 18, 2014, 01:07:19 PMQuote from: inquisitive on March 18, 2014, 12:09:37 PMMeanwhile, we know that satellites provide us with communications, and have done for many years.You have yet to substantiate that.Quote from: markjo on March 18, 2014, 12:33:56 PMWhy is it that RE'ers are obligated to show why FET doesn't work but FE'ers aren't obligated show why FET does work? Seriously, how can Inquisitive properly refute Thork's ionospheric skip proposal when Thork did not provide a workable proposal to refute?He can't, and I'm not asking for that. I'm asking that he substantiates his own claims. Thork at least made a sloppy attempt.What claims have I made that need substantiating?
I just explained, you'd know the distance by which wave you picked up. You could tell by the shape of the wave. GPS signals are returned. The proof is that you receive them.
Please remember the earth has a firmament. A crystalline canopy above our heads. The earth is flat.
Citation required.
Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.
Quote from: pizaaplanet on March 18, 2014, 11:20:55 AMQuote from: Rama Set on March 18, 2014, 11:13:53 AMFunny that is what I was accusing you of!Yes, good thing I called you out on it. Anyway, please stop derailing this thread. Feel free to continue trying to trip me up via PM if you so desire.Meanwhile, we know that satellites provide us with communications, and have done for many years.
Quote from: Rama Set on March 18, 2014, 11:13:53 AMFunny that is what I was accusing you of!Yes, good thing I called you out on it. Anyway, please stop derailing this thread. Feel free to continue trying to trip me up via PM if you so desire.
Funny that is what I was accusing you of!
Quote from: inquisitive on March 18, 2014, 12:09:37 PMQuote from: pizaaplanet on March 18, 2014, 11:20:55 AMQuote from: Rama Set on March 18, 2014, 11:13:53 AMFunny that is what I was accusing you of!Yes, good thing I called you out on it. Anyway, please stop derailing this thread. Feel free to continue trying to trip me up via PM if you so desire.Meanwhile, we know that satellites provide us with communications, and have done for many years.Communication cannot occur unless satellites are real? Didn't people communicate via radio waves long before these supposed satellites were invented?
There are many channels on TV that are not claimed to come from outer space. Also, your position can be calculated without flying trashcans telling you where you are.
So, you are claiming that signals you are told come from space proves that these signals have come from space?
Which tests? Are you asking me to prove that non-existent tests prove something?