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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 19, 2021, 06:04:09 PM »
...which is the case in most elections - because people are dicks. Is there evidence of widespread (and one-sided) voter fraud that impacted the outcome of the election?

Were the dominion machines in Republican-won states different? They just weren't targeted? Why were only the presidential votes questioned when all the votes cast for the house and senate on the same ballots appear to be accurate? It's the same questions over and over again that keep going unanswered, and the right just keeps pointing to an anthill and calling it a mountain of evidence...

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 19, 2021, 03:56:57 AM »
The text you highlighted seems to say that both Smartmatic and dominion each  acquired Sequoia.

Just as I'm not a lawyer, I'm equally not a businessman...but that dont seem right

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 19, 2021, 02:56:17 AM »
I haven't seen that.

Courts are still hearing evidence for voter fraud. Not only is there forensic evidence of machine issues, there is also video evidence depicting confessions of voter fraud from Italy.

Testimony on Video:

Same guy as in his picture on his uni page:

Written Testimony:


The Italian Job: Explosive New Testimony on Dominion Election Fraud

"A former IT contractor for the Italian military testified in federal court in Rome that while he was working for Leonardo, SpA in Pescara, Italy he helped rig the U.S. election against Trump by using the companies satellites; $1 billion in U.S. contracts now suspect"

So what court should we expect will be hearing this evidence? What are the developments? I remember hearing about that bombshell when it was dropped on the 6th, but haven't heard anything it progressing? (These are snarky comments, I just dont know the answers)

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 19, 2021, 02:18:33 AM »
Is that the same Ramsland who got county names wrong in his filings and incorrectly claimed voter turnout exceeded 100% in several Michigan counties?

I dont know much about what you've linked, but at face value, if true that's obviously problematic. If other cases had any similarly strong sounding would think there would be courts that might find a way to hear it?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 19, 2021, 01:49:10 AM »
But does that response not just seem like a whole bunch of right-leaning folks that are upset that they arent winning - the election and this myriad of legal prayers afterwards. They are using their rights and taking action through the proper channels, and the impartial judges are shutting them down - for numerous reasons. Then the Ohio rep and the NV GOP making statements about how they find it unfair. But that's a bunch of people just whining that the experts - state and US supreme court judges - dont agree with them.

Is there a way for the cases to get through and allow the public to see all this incredible evidence of fraud?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 19, 2021, 01:16:05 AM »
Ok I'm just confused as to when all these court case dismissals turn into good news for Trump...

Let's say, for argument's sake, that aside from the ones mentioned above, all the other cases that were dismissed weren't for lack of merit, but lack of standing. You've cited several. These are from a spectrum of courts all the way up the american judicial system. What court DOES have the standing to hear these cases?

Originally you said that the dismissals were good because they created a path to SCOTUS...but as weve seen, that hasnt worked out - not yet at least.

So we appear to be left with these alleged mountains of evidence of voter fraud, but no court has  been willing -or able- to hear any of it. You'd think there would be a mechanism - somewhere within the system - for these piles and piles of critical evidence of crumbling of American democracy to he heard in court.

I know nothing about law but it just seems like that's been the elephant in the room when it comes to the cases that have been brought forward and dismissed. It cant still be a good thing that two and a half months after the election, 3 days before inauguration of ol' Joey Nopulse, that none of this evidence has made it to a court room??

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: January 18, 2021, 04:42:48 PM »

I dont know how Andy Reid isnt jacked, carrying the weight of the balls he has around on a daily basis. That's how you coach to win.

Flat Earth Community / Re: Hallo, ich bin neu und brauche Hilfe ;-D
« on: January 18, 2021, 01:53:16 PM »
Lol Jesus, Thork... The language of God

Round 2 starts this week...?
Boogaloo boys in Michigan and ohio capitols

Not seeing any details on accuracy or timing of the photos in the linked post which was taken from a couple reddit users' posts...

Edit: just a handful of armed boogaloo today compared to number of press and defense personnel at the capitols.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 18, 2021, 02:16:34 AM »
Nah, he has to use the Military (who are the ones who begged him to run in the first place) to help him declare Martial Law. Then they'll be able to decertify the electoral college votes because they'll be safe to release the Kraken. Once those data become clear, we'll finally see that hes only just begun to drain the swamp for us all! And then we can all thank grand chancellor trump for saving us from the radical left antifa socialist future communists that tried to steal the country from people!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:31:23 PM »
Claims are evidence /s

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 17, 2021, 09:27:23 PM »
You can conduct your own research and go through it on your own. Here is Rachel Chandler promoting underage models from the MC2 Epstein Agency used to pass around young girls:

I don't know who Rachel Chandler is and don't really care.

You never answered the question. Is there some sort of guestbook log that shows all the people that visited the island regardless of their mode of transpo? Ex., how do we know that Beyonce and Bill Murray visited the island? How was that documented?

And there's still a lot to clear up about the decade or so that DJT and Epstein were each others "wingman". I mean a party for just the 2 of them and 28 calendar girls. Sounds quite saucy.
'Saucy' is a gross word there given the context of 28 young girls stuck in a room with, at best, two disgusting men.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: January 17, 2021, 08:16:46 PM »
Mahomes is, like, pretty good at playing football n stuff

Edit at 11:25 remaining in the 4th: RIP Patty, hope he's OK

Flat Earth Theory / Re: [ELI5] Southern Celestial Pole
« on: January 17, 2021, 07:41:03 PM »
P-Brane has some problems. If observers in Punta Arenas, Chile, Cape Town, S.Africa, & Sydney, Australia are all looking due South they see Sig Oct. In the diagram below, the red arrows represent looking due South for each observer. P-Brane has them actually looking following the yellow arrows somehow converging on Sig Oct? How does his "perspective" accomplish that?

You haven't shown that this is the case. Usually when it's night or dusk in South America it's day or dawn in Australia. Your claim that people see the the same stars around the celestial pole at the same time is questionable.

If the stars are on the night side of the earth, rotating around to different observers on the night side, when those observers see that set of night set of stars at different times they will see the same set of stars.

Here's a map I found from

It doesnt show twilight zones which is potentially an issue, but it does show that the sun would be below the horizon at all three locations simultaneously.

I saw a video on YT some time ago where two guys live streamed themselves filming star trails around sigma octantis which was the same direction for both of them, from perth and Cape Town. But I cant find it any more so the previous sentence was a waste of all your time I guess!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 17, 2021, 04:44:57 PM »
If they're not on the flight log list but they have been to the island they would have taken a different plane or their own plane, not necessarily Epstein's plane. Possibly a boat or cruise, sure. Airport runways can usually accommodate more than one person's specific aircraft.

No, I get that. But is there some sort of guestbook log that shows all the people that visited to the island regardless of their mode of transpo?

It's the official "Democrat visitors to Espteins paedo playboy palace" log book that was placed in the "to be leaked" bin, while the Republican sign in logs were rightfully kept in the "do not leak to press" bin. Bad luck.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 17, 2021, 02:29:31 AM »
Fuck Epstein. If the Clinton's partook in anything there, fuck them and lock their asses up. If Trump did, fuck him and lock his ass up. Lock up and freeze the assets of anyone who is proven to be involved.

But claims aren't evidence. They're claims.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: [ELI5] Southern Celestial Pole
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:10:39 AM »
In those cities' defense though, again, it's the middle of summer. Would the same be true in July?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: January 16, 2021, 10:34:16 PM »
Go Chefs. But also go Brwns.


Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: January 16, 2021, 02:40:25 PM »

So dumb but also amazing...

How would it be self defence?
Self defense from the perils of democratic elections!

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