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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Unread Posts not working
« on: July 03, 2020, 02:09:54 PM »
In other words, it is unlikely that SMF will be fixing it soon, but we should either lift or greatly slacken these limits to see if it helps.

I think we should completely ignore whatever crap SMF upstream wants to push, barring future security fixes to the 2.0 branch. Our two-man team is more than capable of maintaining our fork to a higher standard.

It might be an idea to use that one by default. The first time around it will probably spam people with ancient unread topics, but you have an easy way of marking them all as read. The downside is that if you don't always mark everything as read, old threads you don't care about will clutter your view. The upside is that you'll never miss a post.

Agree. This is what I would expect a button that says "Unread Posts" to display.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Unread Posts not working
« on: July 03, 2020, 05:51:37 AM »
Are you sure this used to work? On my test forum, if I check out the code from February 2019 (which is as far back as I can go, otherwise the code to check the new-style password hash isn't there yet), I see identical behaviour. It's also worth noting that my test forum is using a copy of the database from over a month ago, so it can't be a recent change to the database that caused it.

Of course, it is always possible that a recent code change caused unread posts to be permanently flagged as read so that reverting it doesn't fix it, I guess.

Edit: Actually, making new posts (both in existing threads and new threads) with a different user account does cause them to show up in Unread Posts, so there's something more deeply broken here.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Profile post ordering
« on: June 30, 2020, 03:12:31 PM »
As a third option, maybe we could just get rid of those numbers? I don't think I've ever even noticed that they're there, and they're not even guaranteed to stay the same during one viewing of a user's posting history—for example, the user might make a post just before you click through to the next page.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Allow markdown for post formatting
« on: June 30, 2020, 01:43:23 PM »
The only way I can see this being feasible without an extreme overhaul is to introduce a [markdown] block BBCode. Maybe something like [md] if you'd like it shorter. You can then thwack anything within the block through a markdown parser. This also has the added benefit of not mangling previous posts, and of not impacting those who'd like to use an asterisk as a simple symbol instead of a Turing machine.

My thought was to add a per-post "Use markdown" setting, with a per-user "Use markdown" setting that defines the default per-post setting. That way, all existing posts are flagged as not using markdown, while new posts follow the user's preference.

The benefit over a BBcode tag is just that I wouldn't need to wrap every single post in [markdown].

Suggestions & Concerns / Allow markdown for post formatting
« on: June 30, 2020, 01:47:29 AM »
Markdown is much easier to write than BBcode, being little more than structured plain text. It would be nice if we could use it to format posts.

For example, here's some BBcode:

Code: [Select]

I like [b]bold[/b] and [i]italic[/i] and also [url=]links[/url].


[li]Do you like green eggs and ham?[/li]
[li]I do not like them, Sam I Am.[/li]

#include <stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv) {
    printf("Write in C\n");

[tex]\mathrm{e}^{\mathrm{i\pi}} + 1 = 0[/tex]

Now here's the same thing, written in markdown using pandoc's inline LaTeX extension:

Code: [Select]
# Heading

I like **bold** and *italic* and also [links](

## Subheading

* Do you like green eggs and ham?
* I do not like them, Sam I Am.

#include <stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv) {
    printf("Write in C\n");

$\mathrm{e}^{\mathrm{i\pi}} + 1 = 0$

As you can see, the markdown version is much easier to read and edit in its raw form.

However, I don't want to switch between markdown and BBcode. BBcode can do some more complex things that don't suit the simplicity of markdown, and so they should both be available, and it should be possible to combine them. This will be tricky with SMF's awful BBcode parser, but I believe the benefits should be worthwhile.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Profile post ordering
« on: June 30, 2020, 01:32:06 AM »
In theory, changing this for everyone should be a matter of changing DESC to ASC somewhere in the code. Making it configurable per user might be a little more work or a lot more work, you never know with SMF.

If you're up to the challenge of trying this yourself, our code is on GitHub. No obligation, of course, just if you want to.

Status Notices / Re: Scheduled maintenance, 2020-06-28
« on: June 28, 2020, 09:23:45 AM »
Maintenance complete.

Status Notices / Scheduled maintenance, 2020-06-28
« on: June 26, 2020, 02:46:16 PM »
The homepage, forum and wiki will be going offline for up to an hour on 2020-06-28, between 09:00 and 10:00 UTC.

In your local time (if you are logged in and have your time offset correctly configured), this is
June 28, 2020, 09:00:00 AM to June 28, 2020, 10:00:00 AM.

We will be addressing some outstanding issues resulting from the previous maintenance window at this time.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Cyberpunk 2077 E3
« on: June 23, 2020, 04:17:00 PM »
Subnautica is a first person survival game. I don't normally enjoy survival mechanics, but this game has a beautiful ocean world to explore and great atmosphere, and looking for crafting materials and stuff feels more like an adventure than a chore.

This. Definitely play Subnautica, junker.

Status Notices / Re: Scheduled maintenance, 2020-06-13
« on: June 13, 2020, 10:01:10 AM »
Maintenance somewhat complete. There are a couple of problems I need to investigate, but I'll schedule a separate maintenance window for those.

Saturday, 15 May, 1982
The Ahoy, Rotterdam


Frank Zappa (guitar, vocals)
Ray White (guitar, vocals)
Steve Vai (guitar)
Tommy Mars (keyboards, vocals)
Bobby Martin (keyboards, sax, vocals)
Ed Mann (percussion)
Scott Thunes (bass)
Chad Wackerman (drums)

Set lists

All tracks authored by Frank Zappa, except where noted.

Zoot Allures
Advance Romance
We're Turning Again
Alien Orifice
Harder Than Your Husband
Bamboozled By Love
Young And Monde
Tinsel Town Rebellion (q: Space Oddity (David Bowie))
Approximate (q: Stayin' Alive (Barry Gibb, Robin Gibb, Maurice Gibb))
Cosmik Debris
Sinister Footwear
Stevie's Spanking
Cocaine Decisions (q: Happy Birthday To You (go fuck yourselves))
Nig Biz
Disco Boy
Teenage Wind
Truck Driver Divorce
Broken Hearts Are For Assholes

No No Cherry (L. Caesar, J. Gray)
Strictly Genteel

Drowning Witch

Zomby Woof


This is my favourite Zappa band of all time, and while this show comes quite early in the tour, it is nevertheless highly enjoyable. This concert features the only Dutch appearance of Steve Vai on guitar, as well as the début of Bobby Martin on vocals and the Thunes/Wackerman rhythm section, who would all continue touring with Zappa through the rest of the '80s. This tape is, sadly, not up to the same standard as the last couple of shows, but it's not bad either.

The tape cuts in just in the right place for the opening notes of Zoot Allures. Tonight's Zoot solo is, as it always was for this tour, fantastic. A lot of similarity to When No One Was No One on Guitar, but without the loops found on that track. It does feature a lot of the same playing around with low notes and a slide, which is (to Dutch audiences) new for a Zappa solo. Great solo number one for tonight.

"Welcome to The Ahoy, which is, perhaps, the dumbest name that I've ever heard for a concrete building. The name of the building may be dumb, but the acoustics are worse." That explains the sound on some of these tapes. Frank is in a good mood tonight, introducing the drummer as "the two-headed Chad Wackerman".

The first song following the band intros is Sofa, for the first time since it appeared as part of Divan back in the Flo & Eddie days. For my money, this is the best version of Sofa there ever was, performed as the closing track on You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, vol. 1 (which is from Pistoia and Rome a couple of months later). After Sofa, we get our long-overdue RDNZL, ever since the anonymous taper back in 1973 failed to capture it.

This is the RDNZL arrangement from Stage, vol. 5, but of course, the solos from Frank and Tommy varied from night to night. Frank's solo here is great solo number two for the evening, being not yet as aggressive as the one from Palermo on Stage, but every bit as amazing. Tommy's solo, while usually not very noteworthy on this tour, manages to impress tonight as well, including some quotes from the RDNZL theme on his synth.

After 20 minutes, the first non-instrumental number of the night is Advance Romance, with Ray White showing us, as he usually does, how a song is meant to be sung. This is, once again, the arrangement from Stage, vol. 5. It may not surprise you to learn that this solo is great solo number three for tonight, with Frank showing us some blues that is simply out of this world.

We're Turning Again sounds the way it always does, which is to say, mostly as a link into the far more interesting Alien Orifice. Frank's solo here is good, of course, but I'd stop short of calling it a great solo. It's far too short and leads nowhere.

Next is the impeccable Husband/Bamboozled/Monde/Tinsel/Approximate/Debris '82 medley, containing three guitar solos, two from Frank and one from Steve. You'll excuse me if I elide over how awesome all these segues are for now and focus on the specifics of this show. Bamboozled By Love represents Bobby Martin's first ever lead vocal in the Netherlands, and boy does he kick ass. Frank's solo is, unfortunately, over a reggae vamp that completely ruins the flow of the song, and it's not a very interesting solo either.

Fortunately, Frank makes up for that with an incredible Young And Monde solo, bringing the total great solos for tonight up to four. This solo meanders between sorrowful melodies, unapologetic blues and random weirdness as though they were one and the same, and may be the best solo of the evening yet. During Tinsel Town Rebellion, Frank has to give the audience the obligatory '82 warning not to throw things on the stage. To make up for this, we get a nice "ground control to Grandma Tom" in the middle of the song.

As usual for 1982, Tinsel Town Rebellion doesn't actually finish, instead becoming Approximate after "substance is a bore", which then proceeds as on Stage, vol. 4. This leads into Cosmik Debris, complete with Steve Vai's first ever guitar solo in Rotterdam. This solo is played in typical Steve style, which gets old after a while, but as a first one this ain't bad.

Sinister Footwear follows, as perhaps Frank's best new composition of the '80s, and bringing us great solo number five for the evening. As usual for this tour, it is paired with Stevie's Spanking, which includes solos from Steve and Frank, culminating in some guitar duelling between the two. Steve's solo is better than expected, Frank's is on par (which is to say, fucking amazing), and the finale duel is otherworldly.

Of course, Stevie's Spanking segues into Cocaine Decisions, which is a great opportunity for a quick snooze before Nig Biz. Aside from the usual vocal wonders Ray works in Nig Biz, we have some solid blues solos from Ray, Tommy, Bobby and Frank. These solos aren't quite up to the same standard as on Stage, vol. 3—which is impressive, given that the band was choking on tear gas for the latter—but they're pretty good in their own right, especially Frank's effort, which is the best blues solo we've heard since 1974.

The segue into Disco Boy is a little odd, which is more than made up for by Scott yelling out "you call that music?" during the first few bars. The remainder of the song, and the Teenage Wind rendition that follows, are as uneventful as ever, but their redeeming value is that they lead into Truck Driver Divorce, which Frank transforms into the sixth great solo for tonight, and dare I say, the greatest yet. This is a solo that transcends description, merging so many different styles together at once that I'm not even going to attempt one. Listen to this solo.

The '82 arrangement of Broken Hearts For Assholes that closes the main set is something to behold. The chorus is done in a glorious swing style that sets this version apart from all others. We also get a "work the wall with grandma" mutation, which is a reference to the previous day's antics in Brussels. Sadly, it fails to distinguish itself enough from earlier versions, and the absence of Terry and Patrick really hurts this track, so it's a nice closer, but nothing more. And then, instead of "I knew you'd be surprised", Frank names each band member and ends the main set.

Frank counts in the first encore with no introduction whatsoever, and now we're into the '50s numbers that would so spice up most '80s encores. Tonight we only get No No Cherry, played at the usual '82 tempo, which is slower than on Stage, vol. 4 but every bit as delicious. This segues into Strictly Genteel, performed for the first time ever in the Netherlands, which is perhaps Zappa's most beautiful composition of all time. If you know this song, you know how glorious it sounds, and if you haven't, no description of mine could do it justice.

"We're gonna play a couple of songs from our new album", says Frank at the start of encore number two. These are Drowning Witch and Envelopes, eventually released on Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch. Aside from the usual awesomeness in these tunes, Frank delivers not one, but two more terrific solos in Drowning Witch. I'm running out of descriptive power for these solos, but believe me that these are most excellent indeed. Like, holy shit, dude.

The third and final encore consists solely of Zomby Woof, which gives Bobby one last opportunity to sing his throat out and Frank one last opportunity to solo his fingers off. They both take it, although Frank's solo is not quite as terrific as the rest of tonight's solos. It's still enough to put any previous tour to shame, though. The last notes of Zomby signal the end of the concert, with no farewell from Frank. The perfect ending.

I had recalled this show as a low point of the 1982 tour. Be that as it may, this is a high point of the thread, which just goes to illustrate how incredible this tour is. Nearly every guitar solo in this concert is better than the best guitar solo in most others in this thread. That said, being as there are way better 1982 shows, you're probably better off seeking out one of those, unless you specifically want to hear a fantastic Dutch performance. Since I've reviewed this show before as part of my 1982 tour extravaganza, I'll post my previous review below for comparison. See you soon for the controversial 1984 tour.

Previous review (written 15 May, 2013)

Maybe I'm biased after last night's exceptional performance, but it just doesn't feel like Frank or the band is giving it their all tonight. We start off with a pretty good Zoot Allures before veering sharply off course into a series of mediocre performances.

Sofa feels out of place this early in the set, the segue into RDNZL is jarring, the solos in RDNZL and Advance Romance are passable at best, and We're Turning Again/Alien Orifice sounds dull tonight. Things seem to liven up a bit when we get into Harder Than Your Husband -- not often performed in '82, and all the more appreciated for that, and the band manages to keep things interesting through Bamboozled By Love and into Young and Monde.

Young and Monde's guitar solo is again passable, but nothing special. This takes us to Tinsel Town Rebellion, and this is the night that changes the song for the rest of the tour. After mutilating a quote from Bowie's "Space Oddity" ("ground control to grandma Tom"), Frank suddenly instructs the band to play Approximate all the way through, instead of simply as backing music for his monologue as previously. Tinsel Town Rebellion is left incomplete, but instead we're treated to an excellent Approximate (complete with "Stayin' Alive" quote), and a somewhat uneasy segue into Cosmik Debris as the band figures out if that's what Frank meant for them to play next.

Sinister Footwear II is never dull, but tonight's guitar solo is, as well as the solos in Stevie's Spanking. It sounds like Frank is idly fidgeting with his guitar strings while his attention is on something outside the window, and Steve Vai's energy just isn't enough to carry the tune by himself. Cocaine Biz is similarly sub-par, but once again, Truck Driver Divorce redeems the evening and the show with another incredible solo from Frank. It seems that with this vamp, he simply can do no wrong, no matter how the rest of the show is going.

To round things off, we get the first Broken Hearts Are For Assholes of '82. For this tour, the chorus has been re-arranged into a cheesy big band show tune sort of deal, and we feel as if we've been thrust headlong into a horrible 1930s musical. Other than that, it's mostly the same as on Sheik Yerbouti, though of course with some rearranged vocals, and of course tonight you're working the wall with grandma instead of Michael.

Frank has decided to experiment with encore set lists tonight, and while the flow doesn't really work, the performances aren't bad. No No Cherry is starting to sound more soulful, Strictly Genteel is as it always is, and we have the first really good Drowning Witch of the tour, though it was a terrible choice to perform it as an encore -- it fits much better around the middle of the set list.

Zomby Woof is a fairly average performance tonight, but is always a nice way to round off a concert.

This show isn't a bad listen, but there are more boring bits than your average '82 concert. Don't get this unless you already have a number of '82 tapes and are on the lookout for more.

Status Notices / Scheduled maintenance, 2020-06-13
« on: June 06, 2020, 06:03:28 PM »
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Saturday, 24 May, 1980
The Ahoy, Rotterdam


Frank Zappa (guitar, vocals)
Ike Willis (guitar, vocals)
Ray White (guitar, vocals)
Tommy Mars (keyboards)
Arthur Barrow (bass)
David Logeman (drums)

Set lists

Chunga's Revenge
Keep It Greasey
Outside Now
City Of Tiny Lights
Teenage Wind
Bamboozled By Love
Pick Me I'm Clean
Society Pages
I'm A Beautiful Guy
Beauty Knows No Pain
Charlie's Enormous Mouth
Cosmik Debris
You Didn't Try To Call Me
I Ain't Got No Heart
Love Of My Life
You Are What You Is
Easy Meat
Joe's Garage
Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?

Dancin' Fool
Bobby Brown
Ms Pinky (q: I Love Lucy)

I Don't Wanna Get Drafted
The Illinois Enema Bandit


There are two things noteworthy about this band. First, it is the first time Ike Willis and Ray White performed together with Frank, bringing with them the best vocal harmonies since the Napoleon/Duke era. Second, David Logeman is here as a last minute replacement drummer after Frank fired Vinnie just weeks before the start of the tour. He does a pretty good job given the circumstances, but there is a certain degree of technical proficiency missing that we've come to expect from a Zappa band. This recording in particular is a direct-to-digital capture of a radio broadcast of the show, and as such, it is by far the best-sounding tape of this entire thread. Will the performance live up to the fidelity with which it was recorded? Let us see.

The show opens with a pretty good Chunga's Revenge, and this solo resembles the one released on Shut Up 'n' Play Yer Guitar as "Pinocchio's Furniture", although it isn't quite as good. Following are some Joe's Garage tracks, with Keep It Greasey already showcasing the Ike/Ray interplay we'd come to enjoy lots more of in the '80s. Here is where you can really start to hear that Arthur's bass is very clear and prominent in this mix. In fact, I'm just realising that until now I had never properly listened to the bass part in Greasey.

Every live version ever of Outside Now blows the studio version right out of the water, and tonight is no exception. Joe's, I mean Ike's, vocals make me feel that he's really in the role, with Ray's harmony line feeling like the icing on the cake until Frank starts playing his guitar. And what a solo we have here, easily beating the version on Joe's Garage and perhaps even besting what was until now my favourite on Broadway The Hard Way. Something about this vamp never failed to drive Frank to some of his highest highs in any concert.

We get to appreciate Ray's presence once more as he shows us how City Of Tiny Lights was meant to be sung. Unfortunately, we're a couple of weeks early for the première of the "Carlos Santana secret chord progression" vamp, so instead we have the boring old guitar solo section from Sheik Yerbouti. That doesn't stop Frank from kicking some butt in his guitar solo, but this tired old vamp simply fails to produce anything remarkable.

Next we get a run of new songs, which are a welcome change after the repetitive sets of the '70s. Teenage Wind is played slower here than usual, so it's a little dull, but things soon ramp up with Bamboozled By Love (the original and the best). Frank ruined this tune in later years with all manner of rushed arrangements and (of course) reggae, but here it still sounds like it should sound, like on Tinsel Town Rebellion, only with an even better solo from Frank.

Pick Me I'm Clean is the (far too rare outside of the 1980 tours) treat it always was, complete with what may be the best solo of the show. Unfortunately, this is also where you start to hear the limitations of David's drumming. As solid as he is on the written parts, he simply could not follow Frank's improvisation the same way Vinnie could, and you can hear Frank testing his limits and backing off throughout this solo. The clarity of Arthur's bass also shines through here, making this solo even sound like a duet.

Next is the Society Pages medley, and I don't know if it's just the mix with Arthur way up front, but Society Pages sounds completely different on this tape (for the better). The remainder of the medley proceeds largely as on You Are What You Is, which is to say, splendidly. At one point during I'm A Beautiful Guy, Ike either forgets the words or they aren't written yet, so we get an instrumental rendition of "they're drinking lighter..." instead.

Ever one for variety, Frank throws a few classics our way next. For this tour, Ike plays the solo in Cosmik Debris, resulting in the best arrangement of this piece in 6 years. You Didn't Try To Call Me sounds exactly like the version on You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, vol. 1, which is sourced from this band's US tour. No Heart goes as it always does, and then we get a nice surprise—the first time, somehow, that Love Of My Life has appeared in this thread. This lovely little liedje never fails to be a highlight of any set list it turns up in. I love this one. Just saying.

The Dutch première of You Are What You Is has not yet grown Ray's vocal monologue over the otherwise mind-numbingly dull backing lyrics, making its inclusion entirely superfluous, but it does segue into Easy Meat, which has grown the faux-classical synth overture and accompanying guitar solo vamp found on Tinsel Town Rebellion. Tonight's solo is very introspective and calm, not at all like anything we have on the official releases, but it works really well. At one point, it sounds like Frank might be quoting something, but if so, I can't identify it. My only complaint here is that the segue back into the synth part is very jarring, given how relaxed Frank's playing is.

And making up for that awkward segue, the segue from Easy Meat into Joe's Garage is excellent. Like, smoking a cigar and sipping Scotch with a monocle on levels of excellent. This Joe's Garage has not yet been reggaeified, and it has not yet been ludicrously sped up, so it sounds a lot more like the version we know and love from the album of the same name. Why didn't we get this on Stage instead of the godawful 1984 rendition, Frank?

Joe's Garage segues, as usual, into Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?, which serves to close the main set, but sadly has not yet grown the extended "huuuuuuuuurt... wheeeeeeeeen..." ending, and so we just get Frank saying good night. Oh, and Frank mentions Ray White five times during the band outros, for some reason.

The first encore consists of a few of Frank's more popular hits. This version of Dancin' Fool is livened up by Frank repeatedly introducing Ray White (and, a couple of times, Ike Willis) during the "beat goes on but I'm so wrong" section, along with some more nonsense over the "ki-ni-shinai" bit, making it actually worth hearing for once. Arthur switches to his Minimoog for the bass line in Ms Pinky, which is still quite upfront in the mix. Best of all, Ms Pinky ends with the band playing through the I Love Lucy theme song, for some reason.

"We have a new single that is coming out this week" is how Frank introduces the second encore. I'm glad that Frank has preserved the "I know you're in there" opener for live performance, here recited by either Tommy or Arthur (I can't tell which). Anyway, this song rocks and was one of Frank's most underplayed live, so it's a treat to hear.

Speakng of rocking, I Don't Wanna Get Drafted segues seamlessly into the tragic true story of Michael Kenyon, sung as it was always sung best by Ray, with some terrific supporting harmony from Ike. The solo isn't one of Frank's best, but it's still pretty good as a generic rocker. Naturally, Frank presents us with some more "Ray White" outbursts during the final verse.

This excellent recording feels like something of a waste. Yes it's a good show, yes the band is tight, yes the solos are good, but it all stops at being merely good. It would have been nice to have had this kind of fidelity for 1977 or 1978, or even 1968 or 1971. However, as I've said, it isn't a bad concert, and Frank's solos—particularly in Outside Now, Pick Me I'm Clean and Easy Meat—make this well worth getting for more than simply the songs that were played. And you'll be hard pressed to find a recording of a Zappa show that sounds better—this is on par with the famous Ritz concert from 1981, and better than the loudness war of Buffalo. A keeper for sure, and I'll see you in 1982.

This section is, quoting its description, "for any suggestions or problems you may have related to the forum or the Society in general." It's not for asking questions about Flat Earth Theory.

Beyond that, please adhere to basic forum netiquette. For starters, stick to one topic per thread, don't just post a bunch of different questions in one thread and expect useful discussion to emerge. Second of all, before creating a thread, search the wiki and forum—most of your questions will probably have been asked before. Also, in the only other post you've made on this forum, you said

I know that this is already answered in the "often asked" part, but can someone break down to me how the day/ night circles work? I just dont get the explanation there.

This is not helpful. If something in the FAQ isn't clear to you, explain what was unclear or what questions you have that it didn't answer. Otherwise, you're just asking people to waste time saying what's in the FAQ again.

I can tell you haven't spent any time reading existing threads before posting, because even just looking at the first page of the Flat Earth Theory board, at least half the threads are from REers taking issue with FET. Just because you can't follow netiquette is not a reason to accuse us of moving any thread that disagrees with us.

Status Notices / Re: Scheduled maintenance, 2020-05-31
« on: May 31, 2020, 09:25:57 AM »
Maintenance complete. Took longer than expected to sort out some configuration changes to prepare for an upcoming server migration.

Status Notices / Scheduled maintenance, 2020-05-31
« on: May 28, 2020, 09:45:54 PM »
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Technology & Information / Re: Post your XCompose file
« on: May 28, 2020, 08:34:28 AM »
More changes:

Code: [Select]
--- XCompose Thu May 28 10:13:28 2020
+++ /etc/X11/XCompose Thu May 28 10:10:52 2020
@@ -7,6 +7,13 @@
 <Multi_key> <o> <k> : "👌" # ok hand
+## Diacritics (not strictly IPA)
+<Multi_key> <slash> <grave> : "̀" # trumpas balsis
+<Multi_key> <slash> <apostrophe> : "́" # tvirtapradė priegaidė
+<Multi_key> <slash> <asciitilde> : "̃" # tvirtagalė priegaidė, also IPA nasalised
 ## IPA
 ### Letters
@@ -47,6 +54,7 @@
 <Multi_key> <Y> <Y> : "ʏ" # near-close near-front rounded vowel
 <Multi_key> <z> <h> : "ʒ" # voiced palato-alveolar sibilant
 <Multi_key> <question> <h> : "ʔ" # glottal stop
+<Multi_key> <slash> <u> : "ʉ" # close central rounded vowel
 ### Spacing diacritics
@@ -66,8 +74,12 @@
 <Multi_key> <slash> <s> : "̞" # lowered
 <Multi_key> <slash> <a> : "̂" # falling
 <Multi_key> <slash> <d> : "̌" # rising
-<Multi_key> <d> <n> : "̪" # dental
-<Multi_key> <h> <period> : "̥" # voiceless
+<Multi_key> <slash> <minus> : "͡" # tie bar above
+<Multi_key> <slash> <underscore> : "͜" # tie bar below
+<Multi_key> <slash> <t> : "̪" # dental
+<Multi_key> <slash> <h> : "̥" # voiceless
+<Multi_key> <slash> <quotedbl> : "̈" # centring
+<Multi_key> <slash> <period> : "̚" # no audible release
 ### Suprasegmentals

This means that
  • I can write words like bū́ti and gėlė̃,
  • I can correctly write words like akìs, with both a dot and a grave accent over the ì,
  • I can write [ʉː], the articulation I use for the English diaphoneme /uː/ (e.g. ⟨poo⟩ [pʰʉː]),
  • I can properly notate English affricates like /t͡ʃ/ and /d͡ʒ/ (e.g. ⟨chode⟩ /t͡ʃoʊ̯d/),
  • I can write the peculiar reduced close unrounded vowel in English, [ɪ̈] (cf. ⟨finish⟩ [ˈfɪnɪʃ] vs. ⟨Finnish⟩ [ˈfɪ̈nɪʃ]),
  • I can be incredibly pedantic with English plosive clusters (e.g., ⟨get rekt⟩ [gɛtʰ ɹɛk̚tʰ]).

I'm quite pleased with how this is turning out.

You're not sure if discussing the shape of the Earth has been done before on the Flat Earth Society forums? Really?

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Quoting concerns
« on: May 27, 2020, 01:56:08 AM »
What exactly do you expect us to do about this? Have you never used a web forum before?

Technology & Information / OpenBSD 6.7
« on: May 24, 2020, 05:57:36 AM »
OpenBSD 6.7 was released this week. See the full release announcement for the (many, many) improvements made. Aside from the usual incremental progress, the main ones I'm interested in are the adoption of FFS2 as the default filesystem on most platforms, and extra hardware support, particularly for newer Intel Wi-Fi chips and the Pinebook Pro.

I decided to throw a fresh install of 6.7 on my Pine A64+ board. Here's the dmesg:

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OpenBSD 6.7 (GENERIC.MP) #1: Sat May 16 15:59:24 MDT 2020
real mem  = 2015719424 (1922MB)
avail mem = 1923706880 (1834MB)
mainbus0 at root: Pine64+
cpu0 at mainbus0 mpidr 0: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
efi0 at mainbus0: UEFI 2.8
efi0: Das U-Boot rev 0x20200100
apm0 at mainbus0
psci0 at mainbus0: PSCI 1.1, SMCCC 1.1
"display-engine" at mainbus0 not configured
"osc24M_clk" at mainbus0 not configured
"osc32k_clk" at mainbus0 not configured
"internal-osc-clk" at mainbus0 not configured
"sound_spdif" at mainbus0 not configured
"spdif-out" at mainbus0 not configured
agtimer0 at mainbus0: tick rate 24000 KHz
simplebus0 at mainbus0: "soc"
sxisyscon0 at simplebus0
sxisid0 at simplebus0
sxiccmu0 at simplebus0
sxipio0 at simplebus0: 103 pins
ampintc0 at simplebus0 nirq 224, ncpu 4 ipi: 0, 1: "interrupt-controller"
sxirtc0 at simplebus0
sxiccmu1 at simplebus0
sxipio1 at simplebus0: 13 pins
sxirsb0 at simplebus0
axppmic0 at sxirsb0 addr 0x3a3: AXP803
"de2" at simplebus0 not configured
"dma-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
"lcd-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
"lcd-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
sximmc0 at simplebus0
sdmmc0 at sximmc0: 4-bit, sd high-speed, mmc high-speed, dma
"usb" at simplebus0 not configured
"phy" at simplebus0 not configured
ehci0 at simplebus0
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci0 at simplebus0: version 1.0
ehci1 at simplebus0
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ohci1 at simplebus0: version 1.0
com0 at simplebus0sxiccmu_ccu_reset: 0x0000002e
: ns16550, no working fifo
com0: console
sxitwi0 at simplebus0
iic0 at sxitwi0
dwxe0 at simplebus0: address 69:69:69:69:69:69
rgephy0 at dwxe0 phy 1: RTL8169S/8110S/8211 PHY, rev. 5
"hdmi" at simplebus0 not configured
"hdmi-phy" at simplebus0 not configured
"interrupt-controller" at simplebus0 not configured
sxidog0 at simplebus0
gpio0 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio1 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio2 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio3 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio4 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio5 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio6 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio7 at sxipio0: 32 pins
gpio8 at sxipio1: 32 pins
usb2 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 configuration 1 interface 0 "Generic OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
"hdmi-connector" at mainbus0 not configured
"binman" at mainbus0 not configured
cpu1 at mainbus0 mpidr 1: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu1: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu1: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu2 at mainbus0 mpidr 2: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu2: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu2: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu3 at mainbus0 mpidr 3: ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4
cpu3: 32KB 64b/line 2-way L1 VIPT I-cache, 32KB 64b/line 4-way L1 D-cache
cpu3: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
scsibus0 at sdmmc0: 2 targets, initiator 0
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: <SD/MMC, SL16G, 0080> removable
sd0: 15193MB, 512 bytes/sector, 31116288 sectors
vscsi0 at root
scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus2 at softraid0: 256 targets
bootfile: sd0a:/bsd
boot device: sd0
root on sd0a (d366cdda941f826a.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
WARNING: bad clock chip time

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