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Status Notices / Re: Scheduled maintenance, 2018-12-15
« on: December 15, 2018, 11:02:20 AM »
We had a bumpy ride with this one. All changes went well, but after rebooting the host's network failed to come up. I raised a ticket with the hosting provider's support, but the issue rectified itself after an hour or so anyway.

I'm going to see if I can poke support to figure out what went wrong, but in the meantime it's probably a good idea if I expedite our plans to move to new infrastructure.

Status Notices / Scheduled maintenance, 2018-12-15
« on: December 13, 2018, 06:52:53 AM »
The homepage, forum and wiki will be going offline for about five minutes on 2018-12-15, between 10:00 and 10:15 UTC.

In your local time (if you are logged in and have your time offset correctly configured), this is:
December 15, 2018, 10:00:00 AM

The intent is to install security updates on the server which hosts the homepage, forum and wiki. These will be non-disruptive to functionality, as the server is running a stable OS release that gets critical fixes only.

At the same time, the server's timezone and canonical hostname will be changed. This is not expected to cause any problems.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Smileys are busting https
« on: December 11, 2018, 06:44:59 AM »
So this was just SMF being ridiculous as usual and putting an absolute URL to the smileys in the database instead of just relying on the global forum URL setting (because why would you store the forum URL in one place?).

Updated to a relative URL which should fix the issue and means that if we ever change the forum URL again this won't be an issue. Let me know if you still notice problems.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 05:58:36 PM »
To be fair, I think webchat sometimes masquerades timeouts as quits
But you provided timestamps. 13 seconds is not a timeout.

If Saddam's phone happened to switch networks at the moment he sent that message, an ICMP host unreachable message may have been returned to the web server when it next attempted contact, which could result in the connection being closed immediately. Given how awful webchat is at reporting what the real disconnection reason was, I'm willing to give Saddam the benefit of the doubt here.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 05:53:10 PM »
Hit-and-run shitposting? Now flapping is enough to get me banned? What a joke.
It's very easy to tell the difference, you know.

To be fair, I think webchat sometimes masquerades timeouts as quits (another reason I want to get rid of our current awful mess of a webchat). If that is the case here, then I'm sorry, Saddam. It genuinely looked like you just joined to post a shitty meme and then quit before anyone could respond (which you used to do quite often, in my defence).

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 05:49:15 PM »
Saddam doesn't even know who's banning him. It's almost always me

This actually isn't my impression, but it's been so long since he was last banned (except for two very recent ones) that I just don't know who bans him most often. This is why I'm baffled by the response here -- this is a very infrequent occurrence, and at least as far as I'm concerned, Saddam has improved a lot in the past few years. If he would just take the occasional ban as a nudge in the right direction rather than restarting this victim narrative, everything would be fine.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 04:03:16 PM »
I’m not proposing a philosophical discussion, I am asking if you have done a gut-check based on the feedback from others? Saddam
is saying there is an unclear standard of behavior based on what others do not get banned for. Perhaps what is needed is a clear conversation where the prohibited behaviors are explicitly spelled out so he understands what standard he is allowed?

His response to being told he isn't allowed to do something is always "lol" or something along those lines. His response when he then gets banned for it is to cry victim. We've been over this dozens of times by now because every time someone new comes along they start proposing exactly the same "solutions" to what looks to them like a straightforward problem.

The only problem here is that Saddam refuses to adjust his behaviour until it boils to a head like this and he deletes his account. He can easily rectify that if he wants to.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 02:04:56 PM »
I dunno, I see a bunch of people who are calling this perception in to question. If you are claiming that you treat everyone the same then you probably are not being 100% honest because humans suck at being fair.

I'm not really interested in having a philosophical discussion on the biases of the human psyche. All I'm saying is that I don't think Saddam has been unfairly banned recently. (There was a time a few years ago when a few of us were somewhat trigger-happy where Saddam was concerned, I admit, but that's long past.)

The fact that we're even having this conversation supports my point. When most people get banned, they stop doing the thing they were banned for and we all move on. When Saddam gets banned, he plays the victim and somehow gets enough people on his side to create a whole drama over it.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:03:47 PM »
If this problem is to be solved both sides are going to have to make a commitment to trying something different. irc isn’t so special that this shouldn’t be solved.

Is there a problem, though? Despite what he claims, Saddam doesn't get banned for shitposting, he gets banned for either being disruptive to an ongoing conversation or (in the most recent case) hit-and-run shitposting, where he doesn't even care to engage any responses from the people he's bothering.

Anyone else doing this would also get banned. Saddam doesn't get banned when he shitposts in the same way everyone else does. The only thing setting Saddam apart from everyone else is that, when his behaviour is called out, he doubles down rather than easing off.

I'm happy to work on solving a problem if there is one, but I don't see that there is.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 10:24:37 AM »
I've mentioned this in the past, but to reiterate, I have no issues with the community at large. My problem begins and ends with Parsifal.

Have you considered that this irrational outlook might be exacerbating the problem? Whenever I actually try to talk to you, you just ignore me, which is why I no longer bother.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 05, 2018, 06:54:45 AM »
My God, a shitpost! A shitpost, on IRC! The gravest of all offenses!

I really don't care whether you want to stop or not. I can keep banning you if that's what you prefer, I don't mind.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:56:48 PM »
you keep banning me on a whim
on a whim

Dec 01 21:29:23 *       Saddamoid has joined
Dec 01 21:29:33 <Saddamoid>     Q predicted this
Dec 01 21:29:46 *       Saddamoid has quit ("The Lounge -")

Have you considered not doing shit like this if you don't want to be banned?

Technology & Information / Re: I want a real mouse
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:55:24 PM »
Mouse is great. Forgot to mention that.

The only problem is that you have to make sure you have a good grip, otherwise it's easy to accidentally click the (fairly sensitive) buttons. But with a good grip your hand rests mostly on the non-buttony part of the mouse and you have the right balance to click only when you mean to.

Announcements / We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
« on: December 01, 2018, 12:28:31 PM »
Five years ago to the minute, I asked for help in building the best damn Flat Earth discussion forum on the web. The growth and success we've seen since then is more amazing than any of us ever could have hoped for.

The number of people who've helped make this place what it is is too numerous to mention, but here are some high points:
  • Our forum growth is accelerating both in terms of new topics and new members, in a decade when independent web forums overall are rapidly declining.
  • We remain one of the few Flat Earth discussion forums that welcomes constructive discussion from Round Earthers. We still believe that the best way to improve our own ideas is by exposing them to criticism.
  • Our wiki has grown into one of the richest references for Flat Earth knowledge on the web, and continues to be actively maintained.
  • On social media, we continue to be a voice of reason in discussions with Round Earthers and fellow Flat Earthers alike. Follow us on Twitter and Facebook for your daily dose of logic!
  • We've expanded our media presence to include regular interviews with the press.
  • We have developed our own consistent branding across all our channels, and it's pretty slick, if we do say so ourselves.
We're especially proud to be a positive influence on the growth of the Flat Earth movement at large. We believe that being transparent and providing a freethinking platform for open (but civil!) discussion of all ideas is the best way to promote our own ideas, as people see how they stand up to scrutiny. We believe the numbers speak for themselves on this one.

To everyone reading this, no matter where you are, what shape you think the Earth is or what your opinion of our organisation, we invite you to raise a glass to these accomplishments, and hope you'll be a part of making the next five years even better!

I'm with Pete. This information is in the ban log anyway, which is public for good reason. As long as we aren't personally identifying where users are from, it's no different from saying, for instance, that we have users from Australia without naming them.

I wouldn't block people based on IP address if I were you though, it's not accurate enough because anyone can change their ip.

It's perfectly suitable for discouraging adolescents using school computers where they are unlikely to be able to install VPN software, or have the patience to do so in a 1-hour lesson.

I don't have a strong opinion on this as I'm not really that active in the upper fora. If it helps, I don't see a problem with it.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: November 26, 2018, 01:15:04 AM »
<RushyMk2> The Origin jumpworks expo has an Anvil Aerospace logo on the floor
<RushyMk2> And the ship is just three landing gear
<RushyMk2> Where's the rest of the ship
<RushyMk2> Nice expo

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: November 20, 2018, 08:40:49 PM »
What’s everyone getting during the Anniversary sale? I want to buy some land if they offer it again.

>unironically giving Wobberts more money

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:09:30 PM »
You can even orbit planets thanks to this.

Please stop with this meme until you have actually orbited a planet and verified this. At the maximum speeds of Star Citizen ships, one would need to be almost as far as the moon is from an Earth-sized planet to be at orbital velocity. The moon, say Round Earthers, orbits the Earth in about 27 days.

Even accounting for the reduced scale of the Star Citizen universe, this means you would still need to be running the game continuously, doing nothing but sitting in a ship with its engines off, for several days to complete even a single orbit. Not only would this be intensely dull, but I suspect they restart the servers more often than this as they release new patches.

In a nutshell: Bullshit.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:44:43 AM »
<Rushy> garygreen: I was permanently stuck in a spaceport
<Rushy> no one could find the ship they were looking for because the ATC was bugged and would just tell you your ship is "on pad"
<Rushy> so you had dozens of players frantically trying to get into the elevators looking for the right pad
<Rushy> and there were 8 of them and you only get ~two tries before ATC despawns your ship for being a no-show

GOTY 2015

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