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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: August 02, 2021, 11:21:53 PM »

I suggest you learn the definition of the word, "guidance," before you post again.

The government pays the hospital if Covid is the cause of death.

Administrators want the money.

And will not follow "guidance."

In the US, yes, for Medicare patients, the government pays the hospital for Covid services rendered. I'm not finding where the Gov't is paying something or anything extra for non-Medicare Covid patients.  Please cite a source.
A source for what?

You are now claiming that hospitals are not getting any monies related to Covid deaths unless the patients were on Medicare?

That is up to you, the claimant, to provide the source.
Just like you wouldn't follow "guidance," if I dropped my wallet on the ground and you found it.

Demonstrable lack of conscience found in your post history.

Wow, this says more about your conscience than mine - I once found a wallet on the sidewalk. It had some cash, like $60+, a University ID and some credit/debitcards. I scoured the web for the individual based on the ID. Found her father's info, called him up, he said it was her daughter's. She was visiting here from school, he lived locally. He came by and picked up the wallet, cash included.

Sounds like your your sense of guidance is severely warped & selfish - Makes sense given your stance on this topic.
Yeah, right.

Don't believe that one bit.

And your virtue signaling is just hypocritical BS.

We all get that you're greedy and selfish but believe it or not, not everyone thinks "ooh free money!" if they find a wallet. A few months ago I lost mine. It was returned to me by a stranger, cash intact. You have a seriously warped view of the world.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 30, 2021, 09:13:38 PM »
That article Tom linked to says doctors are “feeling pressured”, but never does it even quote a single doctor who is feeling this way. It is just asserted and Tom is drinking it up.

He is a great puppet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 30, 2021, 02:54:19 PM »
"Former Trump official says 'just a matter of time' before unvaccinated get delta variant | TheHill" https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/565595-former-trump-official-says-just-a-matter-of-time-before-unvaccinated-get?amp

I feel like this is kinda a good thing? If this thing rips through the puppets who think they're standing up for their rights by endangering society fast enough, maybe we'll achieve some level of herd immunity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 30, 2021, 01:09:16 PM »
Now you have switched from talking about an annual time frame to running weekly averages for…. no apparent reason. Combined with your blind rage and desire to simply vent your sadness on me, I will walk away now. Get well.
You presented a running weekly average in comparison to a single day statistical outlier in order to justify your claim of a five-fold increase in deaths in NYC. You also used the word, "massive."

I'd say "massive" is appropriate...

NYC:


Hart Island:


Puppets don't let inconvenient things like facts cloud their judgment. They may not even be capable of it, given their inability to think for themselves.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 29, 2021, 01:00:12 PM »
See how lackey refuses to even provide a source for his ridiculous claims, much less evidence? It's because he doesn't want to reveal that I'm right, that he's just repeating what he hears on fringe conservative media, and being a loyal dittohead (a word invented by Rush Limbaugh to celebrate the fact that his followers were all mindless puppets). I'm sure he'd like to provide evidence for his outlandish claims, and I wouldn't doubt that he's actually looked for it in some cases, but unfortunately you can't provide what doesn't actually exist. But he keeps pushing those narratives anyway, because they happen to fit his narrow point of view, who cares about evidence? He's being such a good puppet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 28, 2021, 05:13:20 PM »
Tom, I'm sorry if you feel left out because I'm heaping so much praise on lackey for being a good, loyal puppet. You're doing a smashing job too. I understand that you're a troll who likely believes little to nothing of the BS he spews, but you are nonetheless one of their most loyal soldiers, gleefully spreading their misinformation. You're a great puppet too.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 28, 2021, 05:03:40 PM »
You're a good puppet, lackey. You're doing exactly what they tell you to do. Repeating their lies without putting any critical thought into them; considering fringe sources who present no evidence for their claims as gospel, while simultaneously doing their bidding and repeating the mantra that the MSM always lies, just like they want you to do. And all with a straight face; you don't even see the irony. Dance for them some more!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 28, 2021, 02:45:36 PM »

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?
What outlandish claim?

"Those mass graves were for incarcerated prisoners." (implying they weren't for COVID victims)
The mass grave story in New York was manufactured by MSM.

The photo accompanying that story was of the back of a semi trailer which was at the grave site and was taken in the late 1990's, at the grave site designed to service Riker's Island.

No mass graves were dug for Covid victims in New York.


Yes, this is the outlandish claim. Rama didn't ask for clarification, or more detail, he asked for evidence. Do you have it?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 28, 2021, 01:10:14 PM »

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?
What outlandish claim?

"Those mass graves were for incarcerated prisoners." (implying they weren't for COVID victims)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 28, 2021, 12:49:53 PM »
Well,  graves are dug so that dead bodies can be deposited underground. In this case, “mass” doesn’t refer to the amount of matter measured in kilograms (stop me if it gets too technical for you) but rather because the grave is meant to contain a multitude of corpses.

If you wish to learn more about how long humans have been burying humans en masse (that’s French, sorry if that’s too much), I suggest browsing this page for a quick primer.
^Brings up the subject about Mass Graves in New York.

Asked to provide the real reason of what said mass grave was actually for (Nothing to do with Covid, by the way).

Provides the above response instead.

Those mass graves were for incarcerated prisoners.

ICU's were not over capacity.

It was the internet bots reporting overcapacity that were actively at work.

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?

I was just about to ask the same thing. Jesus, imagine being so easily manipulated that you don't believe anything the "MSM" says and immediately write it off as Fake News, but you believe any ridiculous conspiracy you see sputtered by Mike Lindell or Newsmax. It's just weird that so many people can be programmed like Lackey to believe exactly what these people want them to believe, and nothing else.

You almost have to be in awe of their puppet master abilities.

Keep dancing for them, monkey! Dance!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 03:44:26 PM »
Well, thanks to the Delta surge, the CDC is recommending vaccinated people to start wearing masks indoors again. Thanks, lackey.  ::)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 26, 2021, 07:40:20 PM »
^Imagine living in a world where an appeal to numbers makes you right and a greater good could possibly exist.

Are you against facts, and are you promoting selfishness?  Because thats what this statement looks like to me.

He was a Trump supporter. This tracks.

He's also admitted to being incredibly greedy and selfish in the past (see my sig). So yeah, this is what we're dealing with. This is why we're seeing surging numbers now. Selfish people like Lackey who say fuck the greater good, it's every man for himself. That's what makes it so easy to blame him, his attitude is (at this point) expressly one of extreme selfishness.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 26, 2021, 06:12:15 PM »
Promoting MSM fear mongering makes you the biggest puppet in the conversation.

I'm doing nothing of the sort. The MSM is promoting the consensus of professionals around the globe, as am I. They are doing it in the interest of the greater good, as am I. You are basing your position on conspiracies and actual fearmongering by people with their own agendas that run counter to the greater good. HUGE difference.

If I'm a puppet of anything, it's of the common sense approach that in the midst of a health crisis you follow the guidelines of the professionals, not of Breitbart and Tucker Carlson. And I'm fine with that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 26, 2021, 04:29:05 PM »
The most absolutely morally reprehensible thing ever foisted upon this forum is the fear mongering pushed by the usual crowd here. A disease that has a survivability rate of 99.7 percent for ALL creatures, great and small.

Think about it. A vaccine for a disease that has (at best, as the numbers were acknowledged to be inflated from the get go by Dr. Birx) a 99.7 percent survivability rate for EVERYONE!

Those pushing the fear agenda should go lie down in a corner somewhere.

I'm really not trying to fearmonger here. I'm just being real. If you want to put your individual rights above getting rid of this thing for good that's your prerogative; you're right, you have the right to be a douchebag and ruin life for everyone else.
At this particular point in time you have ZERO evidence for even making this statement.

Hence, you are not being REAL, you are being FALSE.
Just understand that that's what you're doing by standing up to the rights that Tucker Carlson tells you you should be standing up for.
Just understand I do not do what others tell me to do, unless they are in a position of authority over me (at this point in my life that would be my father and my current supervisor, and even in those cases, I would weigh any potential consequences in a determination as to whether or not I would comply with the directions given, as all thinking people should do). So, you are still not REAL and remain firmly FALSE.
Enjoy that empty exercise of "freedom".
I will enjoy every moment of my life, not bound by your ilk.
But I will be blaming you personally for everything bad we have to deal with from this thing from here on out, including any further restrictions on our freedom. If we have another lockdown it's your fault, Lackey. If a variant comes about that is resistant to the vaccine it's your fault, Lackey. Because Tucker Carlson told you to stand up for your rights, you puppet.

At this point I'm not going for fear. I'm more going for shame and possibly ostracization.
LOL!!! Good luck with that.

Good luck with what? Blaming you and everyone else who refuses to get vaccinated on the grounds that you shouldn't have to for all the problems we have from here on out? Um, ok. Not sure where you think the challenge is. Whether you want to couch it as a rights issue or not doesn't change things. You are the reason we are seeing a surge right now. If a variant comes about that is resistant to the vaccine, it's because you refused to get vaccinated ( the fact that you choose to remain ignorant rather than actually look into the science behind it really doesn't remove any blame). If we have another oppressive lockdown, it's because you chose to exercise your right not to benefit the greater good by getting vaccinated.

Not sure where you think "luck" comes into it. I can blame you with no effort at all!

Also, you are a puppet. But don't worry, most puppets don't realize they're being controlled in the service of someone else's agenda. It's what makes you folks so useful.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 26, 2021, 02:04:27 PM »
The most absolutely morally reprehensible thing ever foisted upon this forum is the fear mongering pushed by the usual crowd here. A disease that has a survivability rate of 99.7 percent for ALL creatures, great and small.

Think about it. A vaccine for a disease that has (at best, as the numbers were acknowledged to be inflated from the get go by Dr. Birx) a 99.7 percent survivability rate for EVERYONE!

Those pushing the fear agenda should go lie down in a corner somewhere.

I'm really not trying to fearmonger here. I'm just being real. If you want to put your individual rights above getting rid of this thing for good that's your prerogative; you're right, you have the right to be a douchebag and ruin life for everyone else. Just understand that that's what you're doing by standing up to the rights that Tucker Carlson tells you you should be standing up for. Enjoy that empty exercise of "freedom". But I will be blaming you personally for everything bad we have to deal with from this thing from here on out, including any further restrictions on our freedom. If we have another lockdown it's your fault, Lackey. If a variant comes about that is resistant to the vaccine it's your fault, Lackey. Because Tucker Carlson told you to stand up for your rights, you puppet.

At this point I'm not going for fear. I'm more going for shame and possibly ostracization.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 25, 2021, 02:26:26 PM »
I go back to the office in a couple weeks, and I'm not looking forward to it. It's going to be challenging to avoid directly blaming every asshole I come across who refuses to get the vaccine for the surges we're seeing right now.

It's become very simple; we are essentially two societies now. One is saying "I'm gonna do what I can to mitigate the spread of this virus in service of the greater good."

The other is saying "Fuck the greater good, MAH RIGHTS! >o<".

That side that's more concerned about individual rights than the greater good. Well fine, technically maybe you shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated. But understand something.

You are the problem! You! If we end up going through oppressive lockdowns again, it will be entirely your fault! If a new variant comes about that is resistant to this vaccine and sends us back to square one, that's ALL ON YOU! Because freedom!

So, you know, go ahead and cling to this fantasy that you're doing what's right by standing up for your rights ( and that you're not, you know, acting as a political puppet by standing up for your right to not do something for the greater good). In the beginning, this pandemic was everybody's problem equally. No matter what your political affiliation, this problem couldn't be blamed on any of us as individuals. But that changed as soon as effective vaccines were found. From that point on we all took on some
personal responsibility for eradicating this thing.

If you're refusing to get the vaccine you are the problem. Period. Keep whingeing about your rights, whatever. Keep whining that steps taken to ensure enough of the population takes the vaccine to eliminate the problem are fascist. Fine. You have rights as an individual and no one should be able to force you to do anything medical if you don't want to, blah blah blah.

If that's your attitude, all the ill this virus causes from here on out is on your shoulders. Period.

It's going to be very difficult for me to not share this point of view loudly and vocally when I go back in to the office. :(

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 23, 2021, 01:16:51 AM »
I bet you could do a right wing version of this and ensnare a bunch of moronic left wing people as well.

Oh, unquestionably. Look at all the liberals who take Tom seriously and get into a tizzy right here, for example. It's still funny tho

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 22, 2021, 08:13:09 PM »
"I Tried to Make Claims About Election Fraud So Preposterous Trump Fans Wouldn’t Believe Me. It Was Impossible." https://theintercept.com/2021/07/21/election-fraud-trump-preposterous/

I think I've sufficiently demonstrated that a defining characteristic of Republicans is gullibility; that Trump's most rabid and clueless followers would especially embody that characteristic is no surprise.

This guy kind of conducts a tour down the rabbit hole of extreme Trump gullibility, and I found it hilarious.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 07, 2021, 10:32:52 PM »
Lackey doesn't mean to be a total shameless hypocrite, I imagine. He just doesn't understand how hypocritical the personalities he's mindlessly parroting are. He probably still doesn't see it after having had it thrust in his face. You can't expect the blind to just suddenly be able to see.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 30, 2021, 09:36:32 PM »
I'm taking an "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude towards anything legal related to Trump. The Left's fantasies about how things are gonna come crashing down on him any time are entertaining though, nice Fox News-level theatrics.

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