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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 07, 2021, 03:22:36 PM »
She didn't ignore any instructions from police and she didn't climb through a barricade.


The barricade was on the other side of the windows and she was shot while behind the other people who breaking the glass.


Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 07, 2021, 02:28:11 PM »
There has been no tape released demonstrating why the cop murdered Ashli Babbitt and you damn well know this to be the case.

There are several graphic videos clearly showing the moments leading up to her death. They have been available since Jan 6. There was additional footage Included in the NYT video I linked yesterday.

If we go back to the answers provided in the link pete provided in reply 46:

Answer 1: "During the day the stars are still there, you just can't see them because the sky is so bright."

Answer 2: "Try noticing the sky at night during the next month.Compare how many stars you can see now, when the moon is not up (until around midnight or later), to a few weeks from now when the moon is full again. Now imagine having the sun in the sky instead of the full moon. How many stars do you think you should be able to see?"

Answer 3: "The reason that you cannot see stars during the daytime is that the sun's rays overpower the faint light we see from the stars."

Answer 4: "So the first problem is that your eye -- to allow you to see, will reduce its sensitivity when there is bright light present."

Answer 5: "The reason we can't see the stars during the day is because when the sun is up, it is so much brighter than the stars that our eyes can't pick them out of the sky."

Answer 6: "In the day the stars are still there, but you cannot see them because they are so much fainter than the sunlight that is scattered by our atmosphere."

Answer 7: "There are at least two problems with observing stars during the day time. First, stars are very faint compared to the light from the sun...Nevertheless, it is possible to see some stars in daylight. The stars must be bright, such as Sirius, Arcturus, Vega, Capella, Rigel, etc."

At no point did I say the atmosphere isnt a factor. But the sun is the root cause.

In the Cornell link it says as much as well. It also says you could see stars during the daytime on the moon. Obviously that counters what I've been saying and I dont have the willingness to say that's wrong, but I do wonder if we're getting enough context from that short portion of the quote, i.e. are they visible everywhere you look or only if you look away from or block the moon's reflective surface and the sun itself.

I demonstrate it every time I look upward at night while breathing.

And to link it back to the meat of this thread, astronauts proved it while on the daytime side of the moon (no stars) vs the dark side of the moon (many stars).

Atmosphere is a player, but not the cause.

Regardless of chosen suffix, I'm glad we both agree the sun is the root cause.

A fair warning.

But the point remains, Rayleigh scattering is the particles in the atmosphere interacting with sunlight to give the atmosphere a bright blue colour. When the earth blocks incoming light from the sun, starlight and reflected light off the moon reach is pretty well, despite the atmosphere still being present.

Obviously you're right, the sky is blue because our atmosphere, but if there was no sunlight, there would be no blue. Just as its laid out in the link you provided. Hence, the reason we dont see stars in the day, other than our own sun, is because of the sun, not the atmosphere.


What's this about how it's the atmosphere that makes it so we can't see stars during the day?

Everyone knows the atmosphere goes away at night, which is why we see stars at night. Nothing to do with any other bright things out there...

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 06, 2021, 07:10:38 PM »
Short video (40 mins) put together by NYT on Jan 6. Reconstructions of the events in chronological order, built almost exclusively from protestors own footage and subpoenas of security and police body cam.

Those were some busy tourists.

In seriousness though, it does show how unprepared the security forces were and how a few organized groups can incite a mob to do just about anything, especially if they have the feeling of moral superiority delivered from POTUS

How on earth was it necessary to quote 5  entire posts just to write those 5 sentences?

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: VFX Artists React to the Moon Landing
« on: July 05, 2021, 07:55:05 PM »

They literally hired Stanley Kubric to do the filming. Adjusted for inflation they spent $300bn. Putting a man on the moon was the promise of JFK himself. The single greatest scientific achievement in the history of mankind. And you are going to pick not one, but 3 people who can't talk about the experience convincingly to the camera?
No they didnt.
What's the original number of dollars spent?
Yes it sure was!
I sincerely hope that prospective astronauts arent evaluated based on their ability to appear likeable in front of a camera.

...but then again, it would have been pretty awesome to see someone like Robin Williams in space

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is gravity necessary for GPS to work?
« on: July 02, 2021, 11:07:47 PM »
Anyone who uses satellite in a sentence does not realize what goes up must come down.

You dont seem to realize that the only thing satellites do once they're in orbit is fall down...

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Translations of the Bible
« on: July 01, 2021, 11:56:02 PM »
As someone who has taken multiple translation courses, I'd just echo what xasop said. Either trust none of them, trust all of them, hope they provide the explanation of what their goals were in dealing with each ambiguous line.....but the best bet is just to learn the original language

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Translations of the Bible
« on: July 01, 2021, 12:57:50 PM »
Yeah, that's why I threw in the quotations.

Brand recognition > product research in my case on that one. It seemed authoritative to me because it's the one that's been around I guess....but being around so long is the reason for its problems.

Interesting post.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Translations of the Bible
« on: June 30, 2021, 05:10:41 PM »
That's a pretty impressive dive into the weeds of the development of the modern Bible.

If someone is just trying to familiarize yourself with what's in The Bible, GNB is far and away your best choice. That's what I grew up with, it's the only one that's readable in my opinion. I tried a more ' authoritative' version after university at the peak of my anti-religious views, but multiple attempts at getting through the OT in the KJV failed miserably.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: June 28, 2021, 12:42:24 PM »
J-dizzle said 'love thy neighbor', not "live thy neighbor, unless you dont agree with their gender identity"


Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: June 28, 2021, 01:00:56 AM »
Do transgenders also have a right to expose themselves to little girls in locker rooms?

Exposing yourself sexually to a minor is always a crime. You know that, I hope?

Incorrect. It's generally only a crime if the intent is for sexual gratification.

* § 53a-186. Public indecency: Class B misdemeanor.

(a) A person is guilty of public indecency when he performs any of the following acts in a public place:
(1) An act of sexual intercourse as defined in subdivision (2) of section 53a-65; or
(2) a lewd exposure of the body with intent to arouse or to satisfy the sexual desire of the person; or
(3) a lewd fondling or caress of the body of another person.
For the purposes of this section, “public place” means any place where the conduct may reasonably be expected to be viewed by others.
(b) Public indecency is a class B misdemeanor.

Where are you even trying to go with this one weird example and now ridiculous follow-up?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 26, 2021, 04:55:49 PM »
Speak for yourself. I'm a smoke show and I'm a socialist pig. I also know what Thork looks like, so that article isnt fitting my empirical evidence

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 26, 2021, 04:54:02 PM »
Ah, piss. Missed opportunity.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 26, 2021, 12:51:46 PM »
I received my invitation to book an appointment for vaccination today. Finally, this will all be over.

Update: I have made an appointment to be vaccinated. I'll have my second jab at the end of July.
Just got my first jab of Pfizer. I can already feel the 5G signals pulsing through my body. Can't wait until the transformation is complete!

Dont listen to Thork. Your poos will be glorious, but your arm gonna hurt. I get my 2nd pfizer poke today... really hoping my magneto powers will come through.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: New model of the Universe.
« on: June 25, 2021, 06:09:45 PM »
Now show us the wires that control them when they live stream a guided tour through the ISS' multiple components, or live stream a q&a where Hadfield wrings a wet towel out on his hands and the water pools onto and around his hands while hes floating (or suspended by wires).

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