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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Apollo and Moon Orbits on FE
« on: September 16, 2021, 01:22:16 PM »
I like how you admit there may be other life beyond our perimeters but similar to our own.  And it is kind of interesting that after a major expedition to Antarctica they closed it off, then seemingly did the same with the Moon exploration.  Nobody else! 

We both share the concept of a "2D" earth, but space to me is more 3D.

And I sympathize that everything NASA tells us is that the Earth is round.  But I'd still use them as a valuable source of scientific knowledge.

I just plan on gathering the data and dreaming up what makes sense to me.  Lol.

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Flat Earth Community / Wiki update request - Wikipedia that is .
« on: September 09, 2021, 01:58:04 PM »
So when I click "Flat Earth Theory" the Wikipedia says this:

"The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of Earth's shape as a plane or disk".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

The definition of "Archaic" from the Merriam Webster Dictionary website includes:
English Language Learners Definition of archaic
: old and no longer used
: old and no longer useful : OUTDATED

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/archaic

I'd hardly say the Flat Earth Theory is non-useful and irrelevant.  I think removing this word would be justified.

Any thoughts on how to do this?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Moon orbit on FE
« on: September 07, 2021, 08:37:43 AM »
I've recently mapped out the flight path of the Apollo 11 first manned mission to the moon in 1969.  To do this, I started with an image of an Active Galaxy - An incredibly bright galaxy sometimes referred to as a Quasar.  They have a bright Nucleus at the center which looks like our Sun and emits a powerful radio emission into space that turns like a Tornado.  These are called "Polar Jets".  Unfortunately the Nucleus isn't shown in this image but would be inside the Jet.


Source: https://www.universetoday.com/79898/j-e-t-s-jets-jets-jets/

If you've followed my posts, I think Galaxies are actually just like Earth.  So to determine the Apollo's flight path, I copied an image of an FE Map to the center of a Galaxy and mapped out its trajectory over land. 



Interestingly, they launch from Florida and Fly around the Sun's Polar Jet and slingshot to the moon! 

See the Apollo flight path here:

https://www.britannica.com/explore/space/apollo-11/

Orbits around the sun are common among satellites, the ISS, and planetary objects like the moon on a FE Map like above.  Polar Jets could be whats giving them speed and angular momentum.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New model of the Universe.
« on: September 06, 2021, 01:50:06 PM »
The Anomaly isn't that far from Mexico.  Maybe a little continental drift occured.  I'm not really investigating the merits of the claim, it's just an interesting coincidence.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New model of the Universe.
« on: September 06, 2021, 08:22:13 AM »
I recently learned that there's a huge magnetic void around South America (see https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/when-north-goes-south-is-earths-magnetic-field-flipping?fbclid=IwAR355ZL2_HRrECEMm3-GyYo-cXcGCAZUPnn-V8JGH8Kdb3KxL08u-9LOHZg towards the bottom). 

The "South Atlantic Anomaly".  Some think that the moon hit the Earth in the early days of formation and left a big chunk beneath the Earth surface which blocks convection currents of Lava which causes a lack of electricity generation and a weak spot in the Earth's magnetic field. Maybe this is why Mexico is named after "Moon".

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Something odd about magnets
« on: August 28, 2021, 07:01:42 PM »
well this was an interesting post.  it shed some light on the understanding Einstein and others had as they developed Relativity. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 27, 2021, 11:58:35 PM »
Its not about who "won"...  its just about finding the best solution right now.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 27, 2021, 08:31:25 PM »
Yeah I agree, any talks which lead to a good outcome is encouraging to me. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Something odd about magnets
« on: August 27, 2021, 06:18:17 PM »
However like Xasop said, magnetism is a force that can be observed on a sub-atomic level as being the result of atoms being attracted to one another if their charges are opposite (meaning one has electrons to share and another electrons to store)...
That is not what I said, nor is it correct. You seem to be confusing at least three different things. Electrons are electrically charged, not magnetically charged, and an atom has zero net electric charge by definition.

I'm sorry.  I wasn't aware of the Standard model and how it deviates from my comment above, nor of your objections to mine... I'll look into it more.. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 27, 2021, 06:06:00 AM »
After evacuations have ended, is the US military willing to stay in Afghanistan to help with the original mission of helping the Afghan people lift themselves out of poverty while maintaining human rights and human dignity?  Can we help provide NATO support which I think everybody, including the Taliban, will support if its in a peaceful, non-warring state?

Kabul airport is a good place to start.  We already have military and Taliban working together to secure the evacuations.  Perhaps we're evacuating to many people and is why bombers are acting up again.   

Are we ready for diplomacy again?  Can we accept the new power structure in Afghanistan and make peace with the Taliban for the sake of Afghani's and the 20 years work our soldiers put into Afghanistan?  I think it might be easier then everyone thinks.

 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Something odd about magnets
« on: August 27, 2021, 01:26:25 AM »
Regicide, you  raise a good point about seemingly "invisible" forces being credited for this and that without any evidence of any of it.

However like Xasop said, magnetism is a force that can be observed on a sub-atomic level as being the result of atoms being attracted to one another if their charges are opposite (meaning one has electrons to share and another electrons to store)...

I personally believe Gravity is all Magnetism.   The Earth emits a negative magnetic charge and attracts objects to its surface.   Gravity measurements increase around volcanoes...  is this because theres more mass or more magnetic material?


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Moon orbit on FE - Apollo Landings too.
« on: August 24, 2021, 11:29:18 PM »
This map shows the Dates the Apollo Astronauts Landed on the moon and the Moon phase at the time.  The Van Allen Radiation belts are in Green (Strong inner Belt) and Blue (Weaker Outer Belt). 



There's been some discussion on space travel being limited by high Radiation levels from the Sun.  It looks like the Apollo Spacecrafts were able to avoid the strong inner belt and rather picked a launch date when the moon was illuminated.

I also suspect that the atmosphere in space is thicker then popularly believed.  Its  like an extension of our own atmosphere, filled with hydrogen.  If the sun and moon are closer to earth then believed, then hydrogen would block a lot of this radiation.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 23, 2021, 08:45:45 PM »
Its my understanding that the Afghan people want Kabul Airport to be a central hub for international transit and trade.  That is one area of hope that I support and can see happening with the well wishes of the world community.  Its possible and definitely worth supporting.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 22, 2021, 09:15:28 PM »
I have this "other" theory about Afghanistan....   What if people in Afghanistan attacked America on 9/11 because they wanted NATO in there country to help lift the country out of poverty. 

And after 20 years, why is everyone so convinced the Taliban holds no regard for American culture or influence in there country?


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New model of the Universe.
« on: August 22, 2021, 04:31:07 PM »
Nice post...  Any thoughts on the "thickness" of space?  I've considered lately that Space is a like a thick liquid which limits Radiation exposure to people in space but also slows some space travel to a stand still, which gives people the false impression of distance covered, speed, and object size. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Moon orbit on FE
« on: August 22, 2021, 06:37:58 AM »
Here's an example of similar Navigation results using a compass on both a Globe and FE Map.  The headings are the same, except from Columbia to Mexico where you travel more North on a Globe then a FE map...   Navigation is fine, its finding a usable map with similar dimensions that's more important.



 


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Moon orbit on FE
« on: August 21, 2021, 11:52:05 PM »
Stack, I want to give you a preliminary response.  I suspect that Magnetic north encircles the entire outer rim of this map.  In other words, All magnetic field lines rise out of the Center of the map and travel towards the Northern edges.  This explains why your compasses point outwards in different locations.

I'm trying to reconcile how Declination estimates (or for those not familiar is the difference in the way a compass points to "Magnetic north" versus "True north" which is the North Pole I think.
 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Need Help - Blurry Picture posts
« on: August 21, 2021, 05:17:34 PM »
Thank you Pete, very helpful!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Moon orbit on FE
« on: August 20, 2021, 10:45:56 PM »
Yes, thats correct.  Here's a link showing the path a tour boat takes to the North Pole: https://www.swoop-arctic.com/north-pole#how-do-i-get-to-the-north-pole

This map is an old Trintec 24 hour world clock.  The whole map rotates once every 24 hours.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New Moon orbit on FE
« on: August 20, 2021, 08:14:53 PM »
Yes.  The North "Pole" is probably to the north of Greenland and Scandinavia, I think there's even a flag there...  Around the entire disk are the Glaciers that regularly face the continents. 

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