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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: Today at 07:39:23 PM »

So you went with the 'This was intentional and Trump is playing 4D chess' but with alot of maybe.

But since both Trump and Pam said they have the evidence, it's clear they were lying.  You wouldn't say you have something then say you don't as a honeypot for the people on the list.

I couldn't find a direct promise by Trump to release the sex trafficking client list. I found this from 2024:

https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/trump-teases-releasing-epstein-client-list-if-elected-id-certainly-take-a-look-at-it-bill-clinton-jeffrey-prince-andrew-rfk-jr-island-plane-stephen-hawking-donald-election-2024-sex-trafficking

“It’s just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public,” Fridman said.

“Yeah, it’s very interesting, isn’t it?” Trump said.

“So if you’re able to, you’ll ---” Fridman began.

“Yeah, I’d certainly take a look at it,” Trump said.

Since Trump had access to everything as President, his specific wording matters. Trump doesn't say that he there is a specific client list of people who rented children from Epstein through sex trafficking that the government is withholding. There is list of people who went to the island that is being witheld. We already have a lot of those names who went to the island, which are hundreds of celebrities and rich people.

The list of people who went to the island was released in 2023.

Pamela did say there is a list.  So .. there's that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: Today at 06:57:31 PM »

When the affair is taking place with an intern in the workplace, that most certainly is a matter of politics.

Trump is having an affair with an intern in the Oval Office?

What the fuck are you smoking?

LMMFAO!!!

And what is the political stance, then?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: Today at 04:21:48 PM »

Clinton a "centrist."

Explains the blow job (it is a perfectly acceptable policy to have sex relations with your intern) and Janet Reno (of Waco fame).

Again, what in the living fuck are you smoking?

I was not aware a sexual affair is a valid political position.
What does that make Trump, then?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2m879neljo

Curious how Tom will spin this.
Official story?
Democrat edits?
Hillary Clinton?

Or will they finally start to question if Trump, who was president at the time, had a hand in it...

This has been happening for almost two decades now. Epstein was convicted for sex trafficking 19 years ago, and since then his list of associates was continually threatened to be released, but then somehow not released. At this point we can only hope that the wealthy clients are being snatched under seal in a massive honeypot of self incrimination.

It is suspect to me how a man who didn't even have a company website obtained hundreds of millions of dollars, giving credence to the claims that he was part of an covert operation designed to gather blackmail against the rich and powerful. If true, the system will never allow the details of this to be fully known and expose itself, no matter who is President.

So you went with the 'This was intentional and Trump is playing 4D chess' but with alot of maybe.

But since both Trump and Pam said they have the evidence, it's clear they were lying.  You wouldn't say you have something then say you don't as a honeypot for the people on the list.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: Today at 09:59:36 AM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2m879neljo

Curious how Tom will spin this.
Official story?
Democrat edits?
Hillary Clinton?

Or will they finally start to question if Trump, who was president at the time, had a hand in it...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 07, 2025, 07:35:35 PM »

Sadaam - "Clinton-era centrism..."

Getting blown by an intern while seated behind the desk in the Oval Office is a very "centrist" thing to do.

LMMFAO!

What does that have to do with his policies? Clinton ran as and governed as a centrist, and thirty years later, Democratic presidential candidates are doing the exact same thing.

I also don't believe that Elon was ever especially liked or admired by the left.

That explains all the Democrats in Chicago parading around in Teslas with bumper stickers declaring, "I bought this before Elon went crazy."

WTF you smoking, anyway!?!?

LMMFAO!!!

People once being willing to buy his cars without being judged hardly makes him some kind of hero or leader to the left. Think about it this way - if the head of, say, Ford, suddenly made the news for saying and doing a bunch of horrible things, you'd probably see a similar level of embarrassment among Ford owners and an eagerness to distance themselves from him. That wouldn't mean that the head of Ford was someone they had especially liked or admired before. As I've said, I've only ever heard that Elon used to be beloved by the left from conservatives. He's been heavily criticized by leftists for several years, long before he ever bought Twitter or publicly embraced Trump.

As a leftist, I hated him long before he bought Twitter.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 07, 2025, 01:36:56 PM »

Sadaam - "Clinton-era centrism..."

Getting blown by an intern while seated behind the desk in the Oval Office is a very "centrist" thing to do.

LMMFAO!

Arkansas governor's office.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 06, 2025, 10:42:15 PM »

Just an aside:

Cuomo is a dick and isn't well liked in New York.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 03, 2025, 10:37:40 PM »

what lessons are there to learn?

Like: Rural hospitals really really really need medicare money to keep the doors open.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 03, 2025, 08:23:25 PM »

Welp, it passes the house without issue.

So Trump got what he wanted.

I'd day good luck America but honestly?  I hope you reap what you sow and if it's bad (it will be), you all suffer and know it's your own fault.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 02, 2025, 06:15:45 AM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: July 01, 2025, 02:45:18 PM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-u-could-send-165839463.html

So...
Trump has given up on getting 90 deals. (Did he get any?)

And is just gonna write letters to Mr. Country and tell them what he decided.  No negotiation needed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 29, 2025, 08:19:46 AM »

Sounds like obliterate means “cause a few months delay”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79qeqg89g2o

Ha!  The most successful military strikes in history?  By what fucking measure?  Because the dropping of the two atomic bombs, which made Japan surrender, was the most successful strikes in history.

Two bombs ended a war.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 28, 2025, 01:17:56 PM »

Early reports, like the leaked, classified report, indicates that not only did the strike not obliterate the sites, but the uranium was moved to other locations.

The fight now is: What does obliterate really mean?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 27, 2025, 07:24:32 PM »

From the above PBS article:

The Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.

They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.

But the site was obliterated, according to Trump.  Shouldn't have BEEN survivors.  And if Israel just wanted to kill anyone who tried to assess damage just because they can... yeah, that's a war crime.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 27, 2025, 02:53:46 PM »

Oh hey, something we all missed.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-hits-iranian-government-targets-day-after-u-s-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-sites

Apparently, Israel wanted to attack an already obliterated site.  Weird, right?  Almost like Trump is lying about how much damage was done.  Probably why he's blocking congress from seeing the reports.

Or, maybe the US and other previous strikes didn’t take out every possible target.

But Trump said they did.  Hit that site and obliterated it.  Then Israel hits the same spot again.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 27, 2025, 09:07:05 AM »

Oh hey, something we all missed.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-hits-iranian-government-targets-day-after-u-s-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-sites

Apparently, Israel wanted to attack an already obliterated site.  Weird, right?  Almost like Trump is lying about how much damage was done.  Probably why he's blocking congress from seeing the reports.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 26, 2025, 10:22:15 PM »

Before too long, they might have to start letting the illegals in again so that they have someone to deport.

Nah.  That'll show up.  They'll kidnap Mexicans and make them cross the border, then arrest them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 26, 2025, 11:40:47 AM »

https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2025-06-25/ice-arrested-a-6-year-old-boy-with-leukemia-at-immigration-court-his-family-is-suing

Welp, explains the rush of ICE detainments...

The Trump administration has set a goal of 3,000 immigration arrests per day, or one million per year, claiming that it is targeting violent criminals. ICE data obtained by the Cato Institute show that over 93 percent of immigrants arrested this fiscal year were never convicted of any violent offenses.

Know how y'all hate ticket quotas?  Yeah, this is worse.  Its likely an unrealistic number so they take anyone and everyone they can.  Once again, Trump exaggerated the problem and now everyone has to scramble to find a solution.

Also, they hire assholes who love to be racist.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 25, 2025, 09:12:37 AM »

Whisper it quietly, but he might have got this one right.
The ceasefire is holding, for now. Early days yet of course.
And naturally he's going "laa laa laa, can't hear you" at all the intelligence indicating the striker might have not been quite as effective at obliterating the Iranian nuclear sites as he's claiming.

I wonder what is wrong with him that he has to always claim the superlative, always be so absolute. All the "they said this was the greatest..." stuff. Who are "they"? And was it the greatest? (That's just an example, not referring to anything specific, just generally the way he talks such utter bollocks all the time.)

He was raised to believe himself to be the best.  His brain is just broken and now everything has to be at the extreme.  Either extreme great (because he's never wrong according to everyone he pays), or extreme bad (for everything against him).

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 25, 2025, 08:44:55 AM »

Sounds to me like Trump announced the cease fire before anyone else was ready to.  Or Iran was done because the US attack did nothing substantial.