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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: November 30, 2021, 10:36:36 AM »

You want your government to mandate all of that, but you think government mask mandates are an overreach?

You have to look at it from his perspective.
If he isn't affected, its not overreach.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: November 29, 2021, 08:00:52 PM »

lol @ anyone who thought that they were, or ever would be, fully vaxxed

I guess I'm fully vaxxed now. Cool.

Nope. You aren't Omicron vaxxed.

Becaues of people like Tom, this won't go away.  Ever.  So we'll need to keep getting booster shots for the newest strain.

You realise that coronavirus infects wild animals that can re-infect humans again, right? No one ever ever said we could eradicate coronavirus. You made that up in your own head. You are blaming Tom for things you imagine now.

Eh.  Technically the Corona virus has been around for decades.  But I was more referring to it as a constant and large threat moreso than "total eradication".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: November 28, 2021, 06:40:48 PM »

...I am pointing out that many people thought that they would be fully vaxxed from their shots when in reality they would need to take boosters for the rest of their lives. We can see that you were likely one of these people, considering how triggered you were at that post.

I thought we only needed one booster after our "original" two shots?   Or possibly others if
or when Coronavirus mutated over time.  I haven't seen it reported that we'd need boosters
for the "rest of our lives".

Links please.

Honestly, with the new Omnicron varient, we probably will.
Becaues of people like Tom, this won't go away.  Ever.  So we'll need to keep getting booster shots for the newest strain.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 21, 2021, 08:16:47 PM »

What alot of this year has shown is just how much America is like Trump:
Fragile, easy to anger, arrogant.

America was essentially grinded to a halt by a thousand, mostly unarmed, protesters.
America's healthcare system is wobbling due to a pandemic with only a 1% mortality rate.
Its press is untrusted by a large amount of Americans.
And people argue violently about getting a life saving vaccine because some person on the internet said it would kill them and they should take horse dewormer instead.

If China wants to destroy America, it wouldn't take much effort.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 21, 2021, 03:19:38 PM »

I thought the original intent was as a reaction to british soldiers confiscating guns?
Just like how they used homes without permission.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: November 21, 2021, 11:14:56 AM »

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/11/the-mass-exodus-of-americas-health-care-workers/620713/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

This is a really good article.
It talks about how many medical professionals are leaving in droves and why.  Its about hospitals choosing 'travel nurses' for higher pay vs staff nurses at a good pay and benefits.

Its about the struggle of seeing surges of COVID then surges of non-covid care, then surges of covid again.
Its about unvaccinated patients attacking the very people trying to keep them alive.

And its about being powerless as you watch thousands die, the bodies piling up in trucks because they ran out of body bags.   Of watching coworkers die because their hospital didn't provide them with proper equipment.  Of seeing people with long term effects from COVID because they chose to get together for a family dinner.
All of this even after the vaccine became available. 



Read it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 20, 2021, 06:07:59 AM »

Trump will run again if he thinks it'll be more profitable.
There is a VERY good reason he hasn't made himself a candidate yet.
(In 2016 he did it the day of his inauration)

He will run again because he can make money from all the suckers he spams emails for donations with. He's otherwise broke and I imagine in the business and banking world, his name is pariah. So if he's not stirring outrage, he has no money coming in.

He's getting in tons of donations that are not part of a reelection campaign.  Which has rules on how it can be spent.  Private donations from suckers for random email spam reasons... Less so.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 20, 2021, 05:57:55 AM »

Trump will run again if he thinks it'll be more profitable.
There is a VERY good reason he hasn't made himself a candidate yet.
(In 2016 he did it the day of his inauration)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Eugenics

« on: November 19, 2021, 06:22:50 PM »

We could absolutely breed out the impulse to murder or steal, but those impulses come from want and desire and drive.

Those are both two pretty big assumptions. Are murdering and stealing just fundamentally results of some 'incorrect' genes getting passed around? Do some populations exhibit those genes more than others?

No, they are not 'incorrect' genes.  We are naturally aggressive creatures.  We didn't get to the top of the food chain by being prey, you know.  Murder is part of us and is in our DNA.  Its not 'incorrect', its supposed to be there. 
But we also have empathy.  Empathy helps to keep the murder impulses in check, most of the time.  And theft are usually just want or need overriding our domestication.  Or we rationalize it in a favorable way.
I'm sure most people have wanted to just punch someone or wish they could just monstertruck themselves over everyone in traffic.
And we've all seen things we want but can't have.  Sometimes we want them too much and will steal.

In cases of crime, justification plays a part.  Some are mentally ill and will just murder or steal without remorse or guilt because they are psychopaths and lack empathy.  Others need to justify it to themselves.  "I'm doing the right thing." "It's to save America" "God wants me to wipe out these heathens" "She doesn't need that sweater." "The store can handle a loss, its fine." "If I don't take that bread, I'll starve to death."

Just removing scarcity would go a long way to removing crime.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: November 19, 2021, 06:14:30 PM »

President Harris!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59352170

I'm guessing during those 85 minutes, American plunged into a dark choas from which not even satan himself would dare set foot in.

I mean, if all those republicans are to be believed.  Right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Eugenics

« on: November 19, 2021, 06:13:10 PM »

We could absolutely breed out the impulse to murder or steal

How do you know this? Do you have sources or are you just making things up?

We've bread out multiple undesirable traits in sheep, cows, pigs, cats, and dogs.
It seems arrogant to think that humans are immune to selective breeding, given other animals are not.

I see your 5 examples of domesticated animals and raise you a low-effort list I found on the internet of 10 that we failed to domesticate. https://listverse.com/2019/02/06/10-animals-we-failed-to-domesticate/

I cannot stress enough how little effort I put into finding this list. I didn't even scroll to the bottom after opening it. I barely spot checked it to ensure it was sending the message I wanted to send. I just clacked out a fast Google search, clicked the first link, and pasted it here. This explanation, in fact, is already an expenditure of effort orders of magnitude more than was put into finding that link. And this reply is woefully low-effort.

It makes one wonder how difficult it would have been for you to have struck out on a similar fact-finding journey before pouring your unfounded nonsense all over these pristine forums.

Your low effort is quite evident.
Had you read the article, you'd have seen how the title is misleading, the domestication failed for a variety of reasons, and we are not talking about domestication.  So let me put some effort into it since I did, in fact, read the article.

Of the 10:
Zebras were difficult to capture and tame and when they were, they were not useful enough to be domesticated.  Also they attracted predators.
Great White Sharks kill themselves in captivity.  None have lasted more than 2 weeks with most dying within days.
Dingos were partially domesticated but were not selectively bred for specific traits and eventually were put back into the wild by the native africans. (this was a few thousand years ago)
The moose is difficult to capture and they are smart enough to see death and run away.  So useless for battle mounts or slaughter houses.
Currently a farm in Russia has some that are somewhat domesticated and uses them for moose's milk.
Raccoons escape which makes domesticating them very difficult.
Foxes were domesticated in the past but they died off and current efforts are partically successful.  Currently foxes are displaying dog like behavior at the 50th generation but are considered trained, not domesticated.
Elephants are trained but are not selectively bred and thus not considered domesticated. (Domestication requires selective breeding)
Bonobos domesticated themselves.
Hippos can run faster than the fastest human and can kill more or less anyone. Anyone who tried to tame one has died.
Coyotes are naturally becoming domesticated.  Attempts to domesticate them by hand has been few due to their avoidance of humans and the disease they carry.  You can cross breed them with a female dog and that usually works but its not a true coyote.

Now that that's out of the way, your article is pointless anyway.

HUMANS ARE ALREADY DOMESTICATED.
We domesticate ourselves.  We domesticate our children.  We are the definition of domestication.  So humans don't need to be domesticated, we just need to keep breeding out undesirable traits and breeding in desirable ones. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Eugenics

« on: November 19, 2021, 08:37:39 AM »

We could absolutely breed out the impulse to murder or steal

How do you know this? Do you have sources or are you just making things up?

We've bread out multiple undesirable traits in sheep, cows, pigs, cats, and dogs.
It seems arrogant to think that humans are immune to selective breeding, given other animals are not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 17, 2021, 08:18:35 PM »

Why would the defense want a mistrial if they're winning and the law is 100% on their side?

 A mistrial with prejudice means they can't try Kyle again, it's an automatic win, and the worst the judge can say is 'no'. Why not ask?

They win and no chance of appeal as well.

Ah.
Yeah that does sound like a sweet deal.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 17, 2021, 07:03:32 PM »

Why would the defense want a mistrial if they're winning and the law is 100% on their side?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Eugenics

« on: November 17, 2021, 05:06:11 PM »

Its possible but its not 'nice' that ends up happening, its laziness.

Look at the movie WallE.  Thats a society with no scarcity(probably), everyone is clothed and fed and sheltered.  No one needs to work.

What happens?  Laziness.  People end up not murdering or being greedy purely because it takes too much effort.
We could absolutely breed out the impulse to murder or steal, but those impulses come from want and desire and drive.

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Technology & Information / Re: I Hate Linux Distros

« on: November 16, 2021, 06:29:08 AM »

I've turned down 3 IT jobs at this point. I think I just like stacking certs and working at my comfy Socialist government job. But for real, I had a 2nd interview today with a managed security service provider and I think I'll take it.

Why did ya turn them down?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Prosecution star witness confirms Rittenhouse self-defense

« on: November 15, 2021, 09:50:42 AM »

Guys.
Its a clear cut case of self defense.
The question courts need to answer is if self defense has limits.

Ex: if I goad someome into trying to kill me, do I have a right of self defense?  If no, where is that line? 

Like if I tell someone I'm gonna go pull out my gun and kill everyone in a room and you try to stop me with deadly force, can I legally defend myself and call it self defense?
If I walk into a gang hangout and tell them I'm gonna fuck them up, can I claim self defense if I kill some of them? (Assuming I survive obviously)
If I wave my gun around outside walmart(in an open carry state) can I claim self defense if someone thinks I'm a threat and tries to stop me?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 13, 2021, 10:00:57 AM »

https://www.axios.com/trump-hang-mike-pence-january-6-audio-4f147245-becf-4766-ac60-7acece6862be.html

Trump's words aren't being twisted or taken out of context. He explicitly defended people who were specifically yelling to hang his own VP for not falsely declaring Trump the real winner. And people still support this egomaniac.

He defenda them as being angry but goes shy of supporting hanging Pence.

Tho I'd love to see Pence vs Trump for the GOP nom.  The dirt Pence would sling is gonna be very real...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The chad Stacey Abrams

« on: November 12, 2021, 07:40:19 AM »

Yes, we should help them gain a good job.
Which probably means education.  So back to school (university or trade)

Oh wait.  Can't risk losing on work hours, need to pay my medical debt and, you know, live.

Thats the cycle of poverty.  You have to work so much just trying to scrape by, that you can't get ahead.  Because to get a better job, you need education.  To get education you need money and time.  But if you can't get both of those, you can't get ahead and will be stuck with low skill jobs.

Actually some of these people just need a certification class on driving a forklift to get into the next incremental pay echelon. They don't need to "go to university"  to get by.

Sure.  "Some".  Classes can still cost between $50 and $200.  And it requires a forklift job to be available.  And since most people in a warehouse can drive a forklift already, its not exactly a sure bet.

In certain fields, such as mechanics or plumbing, you can learn on the job as an apprentice, learn as you go and eventually make and surpass a newhire with a degree. In fact, many fields are like that. If you're in IT help desk you just need something like a Linux certification to have more opportunities open for you, and you do not need to go to university to learn Linux.

Yeah....
I used https://www.apprenticeship.gov and looked at nyc jobs.
I found one.  In NJ.  Which required a substitute teaching license.
So not sure your option is viable.

As for IT:  linux help desks are rare.  Most companies use microsoft.  But that's largely irrelevant as first line Help Desk is an unskilled position where you use a script or search KB articles for information.  No certification required.
But because of this, most is outsourced to India.  I am an IT expert.  I've seen it happen.  I watched, helpless, as my coworkers left their jobs for the last time because they got replaced by indians in India.

And a microsoft certification runs a few hundred dollars... Just for the test.  Classes can be more so.

I mean, if you were thown out of your home at 18.  No college education.  Could you survive on your own and get better?
Maybe.  But those who can't are kinda screwed.

Well yes, some people are in low paying jobs. The skills and certificates they need aren't unreachable to them though. That's like crying that some help desk workers are able to learn Linux on their own and others can't be bothered.

Can't be bothered or lack the aptitude.  Because no amount of training is going to make me a heart surgeon. (My hands shake).

But what do you do with the people who are in low skill, low pay jobs and just can't get out? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The chad Stacey Abrams

« on: November 11, 2021, 05:14:32 PM »

Tom doesn’t care. He loves American corporate serfdom.

I saw someone point out that the premise for Breaking Bad is literally unintelligible anywhere else in the developed world. Medical debt is a pernicious phenomenon of a pernicious system. It’s great that in the absence of meaningful reform of the medical system, there are people trying to help others that are the victim of it.

Even Syria had universal medical care.  Its like America is one of the few nations on Earth that doesn't.