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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 23, 2021, 02:18:33 PM »
When the basis for Trump's claims are more concrete than "But I wanted to win the election!"  please let us know. Until then saying that the claims were baseless is a statement of fact, not editorializing.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 23, 2021, 07:26:51 AM »
"Netflix Walkout Over Dave Chappelle’s ‘The Closer’ Reveals List Of Asks – Deadline" https://deadline.com/2021/10/dave-chappelle-netflix-walkout-rally-trans-staffers-list-of-asks-1234859014/#respond

The article, of course, takes the typical media slant that Dave is evil, Netflix out of touch, and these employees' demands aren't ridiculous fantasies. But look at the comments to see what people really think.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 21, 2021, 08:09:22 PM »
"Dave Chappelle showing no signs of getting canceled after sold-out show in London | Fox News" https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/dave-chappelle-not-canceled-sold-out-show-london.amp

Hey, look, even Fox News seems kinda sorta almost ready to admit that cancel culture isn't real.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 21, 2021, 12:56:23 PM »
Some people are just too big to fail and their legacy endures.

Singer of the Lost Prophets ... cancelled. Their music just wasn't that good.
Michael Jackson ... played on the radio all the time.

Dave Chapelle isn't getting cancelled because he is one of the best acts out there. Its anyone just below that who can be cancelled and disappear. The people who really get battered are regular people. Maybe someone works for Pepsi, makes a tweet and the next thing, they lost their job.

I don't think the little guy losing his job as a bottler at Pepsi over something he tweets is what people are talking about when they talk about cancel culture. It seems to specifically refer to public figures in most cases.

Not that that's not a problem, if it's happening, but I question how widespread it can possibly be, and it's not what I'm talking about anyway.

And the singer of Lostprophets is apparently a disgusting sexual predator. As I pointed out there's a clear difference between what he was cancelled for and what JK Rowling was "cancelled" for. If that's the best example you know of a celebrity actually being cancelled it just underscores my point.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Cancel culture
« on: October 20, 2021, 03:21:56 PM »
So, Dave Chappelle basically just doubled down, tripled down, and quadrupled down on his comments about trans folks, even daring to declare himself "team TERF", which is someone who considers himself a feminist, but excludes trans people.

And the internet is really angry! Several personalities have said they would no longer work with Netflix over it. Twitter is abuzz, as it tends to get in these situations.

But you know what? Far from ending his career, all the hubbub seems to be doing is providing free publicity for Dave. His career is just fine, as it has been after years of complaints over his past comments.

Is Netflix hurting over it? Based on the success of shows like You, Clickbait, and the legitimately amazing Squid Game, apparently not.

JK Rowling pissed a lot of people off with her "trans phobic" comments. But people are still reading her books and going to see the awful movies being made that are connected to them. I understand she's starting a new series. People have complained, but her career seems just fine.

Even Shane Gillis, the guy who lost his job at SNL for telling some jokes that some people found offensive on his podcast, is still practicing comedy. He's still making money. Yes, he lost an opportunity over it. But people have lost high profile jobs for saying controversial things as long as TV has existed. Contracts have included clauses saying people would lose their jobs if they say or do the wrong thing as long as the entertainment industry has existed. He lost an opportunity, sure. But he probably would have been in the same position 20 years ago. Michael Richards' career still hasn't recovered from the racist comments he made a couple decades ago or so.

Pity Joe Rogan, huh? He pisses the Left off all the time! His career is really suffering for it, huh?

Cancel culture as it applies to people like Kevin Spacey or Matt Lauer are different, I think. In the other cases, people are trying to cancel celebrities for expressing an opinion, or telling an offensive joke (which is ridiculous, because if comedy isn't offending to some degree they're doing it wrong). When the attitude is directed towards sexual predators, it's a completely different thing, and absolutely justified.

Canceling celebrities for expressing a controversial opinion, or even telling a racist joke, is not. But fortunately that doesn't actually seem to be happening. Where cancel culture is hurting the industry right now is studios treating it like a real thing, and fearing crossing lines as a result. But hopefully the survival of Dave's career has shone a light on just how overblown that fear really is, and will hopefully lead to creators not being afraid of taking chances again, and studios recognizing that they can survive even if they have someone on their roster who once said it was child abuse to give hormone suppression therapy to little trans kids who don't have any way to fathom how awesome an orgasm really is, or have expressed the opinion (as I have) that allowing women who were born as men to compete in women's sports is inherently unfair. So kudos to him for that, because it's about time.

/soapbox

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 14, 2021, 05:07:31 PM »
That's one way of interpreting it. Another would be that trump is urging republican politicians to make it their priority to destroy the integrity of our election system.

And let's face it, between Republicans who are dumb enough to buy into the BS and Democrats fearing that Republicans are working to ensure they can steal elections more easily in the future, mission accomplished. Can our election system really be said to have integrity at this point? Does anybody trust that our future elections will be fair?

We might as well be living in North Korea, as much integrity as our democracy has right now.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 14, 2021, 01:56:32 PM »
What happened to your brother-in-law and sister?

Not much really. They died, of course, but so will you and me eventually so it's no big deal.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 13, 2021, 08:49:36 PM »
Action80, saying someone else needs to back up his claims with evidence.  Ha ha ha... Hahahaha...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Sorry. Thanks for the laugh, lackey.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58869865

Well that doesn’t sound great

I mean he can still reach for a gun, he still has working arms. I'm sure the police were perfectly justified in how they handled him, and also that his ethnicity had nothing to do with it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: October 08, 2021, 11:26:33 PM »
In your world, Geico is lying about insurance because Gecko’s can’t really talk. Lol

Seriously, lackey has said some out there things but this...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: October 08, 2021, 12:47:23 PM »
Let's remember he's just a puppet. He's only repeating what others tell him to. You can't always (or usually) expect him to present a coherent argument; it's likely he doesn't understand the point his puppetmasters are trying to make any more than we do.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 08, 2021, 12:10:35 PM »
It's about time Sandokhan hijacked this thread with his rambling, overly verbose nonsense. It was starting to get a little stale.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 03, 2021, 02:25:29 AM »
some quality trollbait, right here

Nice try, Tom.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 30, 2021, 01:56:48 PM »
Tom's just being a good little puppet, that's all. I hate being the guy to defend Tom, but y'all really are asking too much of him. You simply can't expect critical thought from someone whose every thought and action is dictated by others.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 29, 2021, 12:17:37 AM »
I mean it's about time

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2021, 02:29:24 AM »
"‘Rudy is really hurt’: Giuliani reportedly banned from Fox News | Rudy Giuliani | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/24/rudy-giuliani-reportedly-banned-fox-news

Aw, the poor toad.  :(

Seriously, expelled the day before the 20th anniversary of the event that made him a hero, assuming the story is true. That had to sting. But of all the Trump enablers whose lives have been ruined by their proximity to Trump there are few, if any, who deserve it more than ol' Rudy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 04:40:58 PM »
What kind of person is behind it to think murdering billions of people will make their life better?
Answer= Shifter, Rama, LordDave, stack, xasop, Iceman, rooster, garygreen, Roundy, et.al.

Hey, careful puppet, it looks an awful lot like you're saying the vaccine is dangerous here, but supposedly that was never your argument!
Thanks for reminding me I forgot to include you in the list.

Thanks, I felt a bit insulted being left off.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 01:06:23 PM »
What kind of person is behind it to think murdering billions of people will make their life better?
Answer= Shifter, Rama, LordDave, stack, xasop, Iceman, rooster, garygreen, et.al.

Hey, careful puppet, it looks an awful lot like you're saying the vaccine is dangerous here, but supposedly that was never your argument!

You should probably just go back to just ignoring what people are saying and yelling NAZI!, it was a good fit for you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 23, 2021, 11:16:47 PM »
You don't think they could have made an exception when drafting that law? Those laws are illegal, regardless of the size of the store. It's not surprising that you side with the authoritarians and justify implementing illegal laws.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/France-Covid-An-end-to-the-health-pass-in-shopping-centres

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As of August 8, the Covid health pass has been required for entry to shopping centres larger than 20,000m2, and in those where the local prefecture has issued a decree requiring it.

Prefectures have the power to require the pass if the incidence rate (number of cases per 100,000 inhabitants) in the area has been higher than 200 for a week.

But now, several of these decrees have been challenged in court on the basis that they are not legally valid, with the departments of Yvelines, Essonne and Hauts-de-Seine (Ile-de-France) having now had the rule annulled in court.

The court found that the restrictions in question did “not allow for adequate access to enable customers without a pass to buy essential goods and services”.


Under the rules, all shopping centres must still permit people to enter without a health pass if they are buying essential items, or accessing a transport station that is located within the centre.

Tom, chill baby. You are so dead set on making enemies. If the laws were illegal, then it’s good they are repealed. I simply challenged your overly dramatic proclamation that people were being prevented from buying food or water in an effort to genocide the unvaccinated. It’s hilariously hyperbolic and it’s impossible to take you seriously because of it.

That's why it's impossible to take him seriously??

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 23, 2021, 06:02:03 PM »
Ha ha, one of Lackey's puppet masters must have suggested just screaming NAZI! when talking about the vaccine but unable to come up with a reasonable argument. What a good little puppet he is.

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