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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 06, 2017, 09:26:10 PM »
Being kicked out of a baseball game is totally comparable to being deported.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: September 06, 2017, 05:20:48 AM »
A city with cranes. Very cool and stylized.

Don't be so cynical. It's things like the Ace Chemicals sign, the golden opera house, the gargoyle, the great shot of the skyline from what's presumably Bruce Wayne's penthouse. Obviously they're just little details, but if they had actually been representative of the movie's setting, we might have had a Gotham as unique and memorable as Burtman's. Which would have had its legacy ruined by the shitty movie it was in, admittedly. Maybe they'll revisit the idea for the solo Batman movie.

It's more realistic, Sadaam.

We already had three Batman movies that were as realistic as Batman movies could feasibly be. BAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: September 06, 2017, 12:18:00 AM »
While I'm on the subject of rambling about Batman, I'll at least credit the Burtman movies with having some fantastic set designs:





Every Batman adaptation should try to make Gotham look and feel unique. As much as people mock Schumacher's movies, his vision of Gotham as a neon-lit nightlife hub punctuated by enormous statues also had some merit to it:







In many ways, this aesthetic was a modern update of how the city was portrayed in Silver Age comics, particularly ones drawn by Dick Sprang. Giant advertising props were something of a recurring theme back then:





There's a lot more I could say about this subject by bringing up TAS, Gotham, and Bamham, but I think I've made my point by now, and I don't want to have thirty pictures in one post. Anyway, it was disappointing to see the Nolan movies portray Gotham as only a little more interesting than real-world Chicago, and I was genuinely surprised when BvS's take on Gotham was even more generic, given Snyder's love of recreating comic panels and showing off big, flashy shots. And what really kills me about this is that there was a cool, stylized Gotham...in this weird Turkish Airlines ad:



That looks awesome! Why couldn't Gotham have been like that in BvS? Hell, even Metropolis looked great in its own ad:



Why did they have to go with dull warehouses and alleys instead? We have CGI now! They can make the setting look like anything they want!

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: September 02, 2017, 03:35:25 AM »
I was right about the undead dragon and Jon/Dany.

Those two details were leaked over a year ago.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: August 30, 2017, 05:23:25 PM »
http://batman-news.com/2017/08/29/joker-origin-movie-bullied/

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It’s dark. It’s like a dark Joker. As a kid, he had a permanent smile and everyone made fun of him. It’s like on the streets of Brooklyn. It’s super dark and real.

I would seriously rather see Snyder/Goyer be given yet another shot at a DCEU movie than this.

Wow... I did not write that well.
Harley Quinn's creation was in Batman: The Animated Series.  Where they also showed her Origin story, which takes place a while after the joker's origin.

My point was you'd have a movie that showed one villain's origin then move onto another villain's origin in the same movie. Which doesn't sound like a good idea.

Why would a movie about the Joker's origin include Harley's origin? We already saw pretty much all there was to her origin in SS, anyway.

In other news, the madness continues.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 29, 2017, 08:37:18 PM »
There are too many characters and too many plot threads to resolve them all properly in the limited time left, even with the major simplifications from the books. Shortening the seasons hasn't paid off if its main benefit was to give each episode more of a budget. The show doesn't need more money, it needs more time to tell the story.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 28, 2017, 03:40:20 PM »
I was so convinced that the show was committed to Arya and Sansa's stupid enmity that the "twist" took me by surprise. I don't think the resolution quite justifies every dopey scene the two of them had together (Was it all a long con? Did they only realize what was going on at the last second?), but the end result was satisfying enough.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 26, 2017, 03:35:46 AM »
Arpaio is essentially to law enforcement what Trump is to business. They're both talented showmen who prioritized seeking publicity over their actual jobs, and then relied on ignorant people equating their fame with success and merit in their chosen fields to bolster their popularity. The people who think that Arpaio was a great sheriff are the same people who think that Trump was a great businessman. So it's no surprise that Trump has pardoned his kindred spirit.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 25, 2017, 04:38:10 AM »
She crossed over to the other side of the stage. ::) The whole thing was stupid anyway. It was just a meme based more than anything on the fact that certain camera angles made Trump's positioning look comedically sinister at times. Neither he nor Hillary could have known how it would look on camera until the debate was over. I'm sure he got too close to her at times, but the media wouldn't have made it into such a big issue without the silly pictures people were posting the next morning.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: August 24, 2017, 09:39:02 PM »
I mean, they do a Joker origin story like every batman reboot.

You mean in the adaptations? The first Burtman gave him an origin story, and I suppose the Telltale series is currently in the middle of one, but that's all I can think of. Adaptations like The Dark Knight, the DCAU, Bamham, and Batman '66 all wisely kept his origin ambiguous. Even Gotham is currently staying vague about what connection, if any, Jerome has with the future Joker, and this from the show that delivers (what it imagines to be) fanservice with all the subtlety of an elephant crashing into a grand piano. (Incidentally, the best episode involving Jerome, and one of Gotham's strongest overall, was when he squared off against young Bruce Wayne in a quasi-adaptation of The Killing Joke. It's almost as if the Joker is at his best when he's fighting Batman!)

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And Harley Quinn was in it well after the Joker was established as a psycho.  That's basically two origin stories in one movie and let's just... no.

I'm not sure what this means. Harley was in what?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: August 24, 2017, 02:34:21 AM »
The concept defies the potential of awesomeness. The Joker doesn't need an origin story, and to give him one, or even spend too much time focusing on his past, just weakens the character and the mystery that surrounds him.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-harley-quinn-movie-scores-crazy-stupid-love-filmmakers-write-direct-1032210

please no

what is even happening now

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 22, 2017, 05:47:42 AM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/08/21/secret-service-cant-pay-agents-because-trumps-frequent-travel-large-family/529075001/

The article only hints at it, but don't forget that plenty of this money is being paid to Trump and his businesses for catering and accommodation at his properties. Remember when we were told that Trump's wealth meant he would be incorruptible?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 21, 2017, 03:48:50 PM »
I liked it just for the spectacle, but there's no doubt that it's a narrative mess. Like, Gendry runs back to the Wall, sends a raven to Dany, and Dany shows up with her dragons, all in the space of...a night? Maybe a day and a night? And it really bugged me that the episode kept changing its mind about how many redshirts were part of the expedition. We'd clearly see in an establishing shot that there were only two or three, who then get killed, but later on a few more appear out of thin air so that they can get killed too.

But the real issue is, again, Arya and Sansa. Arya is angry about nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's plot-mandated angst. I get that Littlefinger is apparently trying to pit them against each other, but Arya's baffling stupidity is doing virtually all of the work here. Have they forgotten that they literally have access to a near-omniscient godchild who could easily clear this whole issue up for them?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 21, 2017, 03:20:42 AM »
<Saddam> It's worse in the books
<Saddam> [Robb] marries a lady because he knocked her up

My mistake, he just banged her and felt that he ought to marry her afterward. She wasn't even pregnant. The books also take great pains to frame his marriage as being an incredibly stupid decision, as opposed to the show making him more sympathetic by giving him a genuine romance with an actual character. Also, Rushy is obviously trolling, stop feeding him.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: August 19, 2017, 03:52:57 AM »
<Rushy> Saddam: robb wasn't actually very noble
<Saddam> He was a tragic hero in the Shakespearian tradition
<Rushy> he ignored his pledge to a lord and married some hot nobody just because she was hot
<Saddam> He married her because he loved her, you scrub
<Rushy> he also beheaded lord karstark for dumb reasons, basically mimicking what joffrey did
<Saddam> It's worse in the books
<Saddam> He marries a lady because he knocked her up
<Rushy> I think the mimicry of what joffrey did was pretty important in and of itself
<Saddam> He beheaded Karstark for murdering innocent children
<Saddam> If any crime deserves instant execution, it's that
<Rushy> it's still a dumb reason to execute the leader of your largest faction
<Saddam> And the option of keeping him alive was presented in the interests of political gain, not mercy
<Rushy> by executing him for his crimes, he caused the deaths of many more people
<Saddam> This illustrates Robb's tragic flaw
<Saddam> His lack of necessary political cunning
<Saddam> Just like his father
<Saddam> I'm not saying that everything he did was 100% right and what needed to be donw
<Saddam> done*
<Rushy> his father's mistake was just plain hilarious
<Rushy> telling cersei to her face "I know your kids are incest babies you should leave lol"
<Rushy> what a memester
<Saddam> They both follow the path of Brutus from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar
<Saddam> A noble man who can't set aside his sense of honor to do the smart thing
<Rushy> also everyone seems to have magically forgotten that Arya hates Sansa, but I guess without the books that isn't as obvious
<Saddam> Their hatred of each other was based in stupid, childish things
<Rushy> not without her reasons though, I mean Sansa really is a frigid bitch, the show seems to pad it a bit
<Saddam> Unless you're talking about the leaked episode - have you seen it yet?
<Rushy> no
<Saddam> Ah, then I shall say no more lest you swing the banhammer
<Rushy> indeed
<Saddam> Gendry swings the best hammer
<Saddam> Years of rowing have transformed him into a master of blunt weaponry
<Rushy> surprised that the show doesn't have more people using blunt weapons
<Rushy> everyone seems to use swords, which makes little sense, as swords are more expensive to produce and aren't useful against people wearing plate armor, which seems to be unnaturally common
<Rushy> nearly everyone has either plate or chainmail, and it's hilariously runescape levels of common across the continent
<Saddam> Armies typically distribute equipment to their soldiers
<Rushy> it's still too common in their world, this is one thing I liked more in Witcher, where armored opponents were genuinely more rare
<Rushy> metal refining, metal working, etc. in the time that GoT appears to exist in is atrociously expensive, the majority of an army would be leatherbound, with chainmail troops being your "elite" and then a few plated knights
<Rushy> instead, you have a meme where the entire lannister army has plate armor, which doesn't make sense, even considering that they're supposed to be very wealthy
<Rushy> very well crafted plate armor, mind you, not some generic mass produced iron plates that just strap to the chest
<Rushy> however they forgot to equip them with dragonbreath shields
<Rushy> what a noob mistake

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 18, 2017, 03:37:10 PM »
I don't see this as a separate subject just because of the race or ideology of the attacker. Trump is quick to condemn and beat his chest when it's a Muslim who commits the attack. When it's a white nationalist, he awkwardly fumbles about with "both sides" equivocation and asides about who had permits. That last one isn't true either, by the way.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: August 18, 2017, 02:31:33 PM »
I can imagine quite a few legitimate reasons for why Trump didn't want to address nazis et al. right away (other than pandering). One of them being that the nazi boogeyman is massively overblown by left-leaning media. How many actual nazis or white nationalists do you think there were in that protest? Sure, there were some I'd imagine, but certainly not all of them. And those some likely weren't involved in the violence at all.

Condemning hateful ideologies in general is fine and dandy, but let's not blame people for something they probably didn't do. Let's just condemn all violence in one statement and the ideologies in another, which is what happened.

Nice rationalization, but we both know that Trump is utterly incapable of this level of restraint and nuance. If it had been a Muslim who did this, an illegal immigrant, or a leftist, the self-congratulatory shitposts would be flying thick and fast from Trump, as we've seen multiple times in the past. But now suddenly Trump's thoughtful, patient side emerges? Bullshit.

Well, it didn't take long for Trump to prove me right on this.

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