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I don't get the controversy. Even the article linked in the OP points out that what he meant to say was Americans as a whole (that is, African-Americans included).

So a public figure chose his words poorly in front of a microphone. If you're going to make a thread every time that happens, please let me know so I can give the server more disk space.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 19, 2022, 10:49:27 AM »
The real way to go is to not have a nation of people so poorly educated that you have to resort to using "bish, bash, bosh" as your main means of communication, but that's gonna take a while.
But if Boris did that, he'd be putting himself out of a job.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The workings of European democracy
« on: January 18, 2022, 12:11:41 PM »
Following David Sassoli's passing, Roberta Metsola has been elected President of the European Parliament. This was due to happen anyway because EP Presidents serve 2½-year terms. Metsola's term will run until the next EP elections in 2024.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 16, 2022, 09:45:47 PM »
although Omicron is admittedly much milder than the original (and still the best) Covid, which is part of the reason why we aren’t all in lockdown now like we were this time last year.
They're loosening up restrictions here too, despite the fact that cases are on the rise, because hospitalisations and deaths are going down. Another nail in the coffin for the "it's about control" conspiracy brigade.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 14, 2022, 03:49:46 PM »
I assume you’ll wait until the Wikipedia page is created.
That's a bit unfair. He could just as well get the information from RT or the Express.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 14, 2022, 12:50:41 PM »
There hasn’t been flip flopping at all, just some administrative incompetence.
This is the entire story of Australia's existence as a nation.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 14, 2022, 09:10:30 AM »
Ironically a parliamentary system is what we might be headed to in practice.

The delegates elect a president, the general election is really just a suggestion.  It's easy to picture republican controlled states just saying fuck it, we're appointing delegates that vote for our guy no matter what.
That's not really a parliamentary system. A parliamentary system would be one in which the leader of the US is not only elected by Congress, but subject to congressional approval throughout their tenure. This provides, in healthy democracies, a way for the leadership to be indirectly accountable to the electorate (via their elected representatives) at all times, not just on election day. Of course, this would not by itself make a huge difference in the US because of the existing extreme polarisation, but I think the blame for that polarisation rests at least in part with the existing presidential system.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 11:54:14 PM »
I think something similar could very easily happen in other Western democracies - someone loses an election and doesn't like it, cries foul, and then all of a sudden a process once generally accepted as trustworthy is now incredibly controversial. That doesn't sound like a uniquely American problem to me.
At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, this is one reason why presidential systems suck. The point of democracy is to enable many views to be heard and debated, which a parliamentary system can achieve by allocating representatives in proportion to votes — in a sense, everybody "wins" by getting represented, whether or not their views are in the majority. In a presidential election, you instead have everyone vote for a single office, and so it is much easier for voters whose candidate is not elected to feel let down.

America is the most egregious example of a presidential system, at least among the world's functioning democracies, because of a combination of extreme polarisation and disproportionate media attention on the presidential election as compared with congressional elections. You will easily be able to find one that works better if you try. Likewise, you will be able to find examples of dysfunctional parliamentary systems.

Nevertheless, I believe that a parliamentary system is less susceptible to this sort of thing than a presidential one, all else being equal, and most Western democracies are parliamentary or semi-presidential systems.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 11, 2022, 02:25:19 PM »
This article is interesting for other reasons. It shows how little we have really moved on since the Black Death, when people believed that the plague was a punishment for their sins.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 07, 2022, 06:05:58 PM »
All that proves is that the vaccine can bring on debilitating bouts of Tourette's. What a foul mouthed woman.
Tourette's syndrome is an actual medical condition, very few sufferers of which experience coprolalia. Please don't perpetuate harmful stereotypes.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 07, 2022, 11:24:56 AM »
When people talk about Ireland, they refer to a cultural and national identity that goes beyond the political entity officially known as the Republic of Ireland, and absolutely includes Northern Ireland.
Actually, at least part of the confusion is that the official name of the Republic of Ireland in English is "Ireland". The term "Republic of Ireland" is a description used when it is necessary to distinguish between the island of Ireland and the sovereign state. Of course, everyone except Thork is perfectly capable of navigating this ambiguity based on context.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 06, 2022, 04:08:11 PM »
I said YOUR arguments are ridiculous.
All I did was apply your argument about the Irish to the Welsh. If you agree it's ridiculous, my job here is done.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 06, 2022, 04:01:16 PM »
This is like saying "Thork says there is no black people because there is no Blackland". You're arguments are ridiculous.
I'm glad we agree your position is ridiculous.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 06, 2022, 03:53:13 PM »
If there was no Ireland for over 120 years
Where did you get that from?

no one held Irish citizenship. No one had an Irish passport. No one was Irish.
Nobody holds Welsh citizenship or has a Welsh passport today. So, according to Thork, are there no Welsh?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 06, 2022, 03:25:36 PM »
It is equally a big stretch to claim that Northern Ireland belongs to the Irish, being as there were no Irish until their independence in 1922 ... we were all British.
This is like saying there were no French in Paris in the 1940s. Being occupied by a foreign power doesn't suddenly change your national identity.

For them to claim independence in the South and suddenly also have the right to land in the North is an absurd claim.
There was no border between North and South until two years after the declaration of independence. The South didn't declare independence — the entire island did. Then the British took some of it back.

The people in the North (also British)
Wrong.



People in the South have no claim over the land of the North.
That's probably why they aren't claiming it.

Its not theirs. Never was theirs. Never belonged to their ancestors ...
We've just been over this. You don't get to ignore things we covered yesterday just because they're inconvenient for you. Do better.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 05, 2022, 08:14:30 PM »
Sure they did ... but then they were all killed by the Celts in about 500BC.
Source?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 05, 2022, 08:01:01 PM »
Mmmm, these people sound like they are from the modern day EU, conquered us English and then pushed on to conquer the Irish. England has no charge to answer.
So are you retracting your claim that the Irish never owned the land?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 05, 2022, 07:44:04 PM »
You can't have lost land that you have never owned. Get a history book.
I put it to you that it is you who should learn some history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Norman_invasion_of_Ireland

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 05, 2022, 07:15:59 PM »
Canada is starting along the path of reviving some first nation’s languages. I hope it goes well, but we did so much to eradicate native speakers that it is a steep hill to climb.
Yeah, that's an especially awkward case because modern political boundaries don't even approximate those of the first nations, so the cultures associated with those languages are also long dead. At least Irish national identity is still intact, even though they've lost a sixth of their land to a foreign aggressor.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification
« on: January 05, 2022, 06:21:02 PM »
Wasn’t exactly sure where to put this, but a big day for Irish culture:

https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/irish-language-european-union
Indeed. I mentioned this in another thread as well. I'm glad to see the language revival be making such strides, although there is obviously still a long way to go.

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