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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?
« on: Today at 06:01:42 AM »
Its just an optical property of the atmosphere (imo)...

I updated the Magnet Picture below... 

The north pole as we know it on a spherical world (90'N Latitude) would be on the underside of a flat earth below the south pole / Antarctica.   Imagine your standing at the north pole on a spherical earth and the world is squished a little into a disc shape.  The south pole would still be beneath your feet on the other side of the world.   The only difference is that on a flat world we would only live in one particular hemisphere, or one side of earth, but the magnetic lines do dip under. 


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?
« on: Today at 05:18:24 AM »
Okay, to answer your questions from before - yes, it's a south centered AE map with Antarctica at the center.  Even though they say Anarctica is where the geographic and magnetic south pole is it is not.  The polarity of Antarctica is North with upward moving magnetic field lines as illustrated in the picture above.

To quickly sum up the model here, the sun is stationary.  Earth tilts towards the sun just like the Round Earth model.  But instead of Earth orbitting the sun, it also sits stationary beneath the sun and wobbles once a year to account for seasonal and celestial visual changes.   It's not a spot light sun, it just hovers near Earth like all the other planets but uses the Earths atmosphere to divide the light into night and day.  And our Earthly solar system I think is simply a small Galaxy orbitting the Milky Way. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?
« on: December 07, 2022, 09:12:39 PM »
The picture has what you need...  Just draw a line from  south pole around Earth (meridian or w/e) and to the north pole...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« on: December 07, 2022, 07:05:36 PM »
Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side.

So ... when people travel to the South Pole, they go BENEATH the flat earth? On the "other" side?

This isn't hard...  The opposite poles of a flat or spherical earth are located at the opposite ends of there axis of rotation....  There right beneath one another, seperated by earth of course.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« on: December 07, 2022, 03:07:10 PM »
Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side. 

So a compass will only respond to the polarity of a magnet near your location.

And I understand why you think the bar magnet is upside down but it's not.  When we say "magnetic" north or south pole it can mean two different things.  The location  of vertical magnetic field lines that is near the geographic north and south pole OR

The actual polarity of the south pole's location which is north.  Magnetic field lines always exit from the north end of a magnet and enter at the south Pole.  So you see why the bar magnet is flipped on the FE and RE pictures above?  It's unfair how confusing it is but below is a swift article explaining the situation.

https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/11/15/why-does-a-magnetic-compass-point-to-the-geographic-north-pole/

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« on: December 07, 2022, 02:29:41 PM »
I think the earth is an Axial Disc Magnet...  Here is a picture...    I can't really speak about a Ring Magnet setup..


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« on: December 07, 2022, 02:05:31 PM »
I don't fully understand how magnetism is generated in this way, but I think the Earth spins the same as in RE anyway so..  Am I off the hook?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« on: December 07, 2022, 01:27:49 PM »
It's the same process as round Earth I assume except it's a flat disc magnet.   Lava, dynamos, all that stuff I don't understand and have no reason to question.

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I think most projections are to make a spherical map more readable...  If you start with a Flat Map then you don't really need to add anything...  Perhaps some topographical features etc..

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« on: December 07, 2022, 08:36:33 AM »
I don't really understand your question...  Why do magnets have poles?

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Technology & Information / Re: T-minus 10 hours - Artemis Mission to Moon
« on: December 02, 2022, 07:07:26 PM »
Yes, Tumeni .. please post your numbers if you have them...

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Technology & Information / Re: T-minus 10 hours - Artemis Mission to Moon
« on: November 29, 2022, 11:45:21 PM »
This is sort of interesting... A live view of the moon from the Orion Capsule...



Edit:. I don't think this feed is live bc I keep seeing the same images ...  NASA isn't publishing live feed 24/7 bc they share the deep space communication network used by others -  but there trying. 

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Does the Sun appear larger in the morning?
« on: November 28, 2022, 06:28:47 PM »
I think the world spins and the sun is stationary.  The reason the sun doesn't light up the whole world is because of the way the Earth tilts towards the sun and how the light bends around the atmosphere....  This creates areas of light and areas of dark on Earth.  That's why we can use time zones but it's generally 12pm when the sun is directy over a  location...

 Time zones I guess are important so everyone starts and ends a calendar day at the same time...  I think 12am in Greenwich UK is when a new day officially starts followed by the countries approaching 12am midnight ..

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Does the Sun appear larger in the morning?
« on: November 26, 2022, 07:08:05 PM »
I used a pencil compass with two sharp ends...  I think I removed enough glare for accurate measurements...  I used the trees in the morning and the trees/sunglasses in the afternoon. 

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Flat Earth Investigations / Does the Sun appear larger in the morning?
« on: November 26, 2022, 02:24:55 PM »
Hey Guys,

I'm running an experiment to see if the Sun changes its apparent diameter from Sunrise to Noon...

This morning in NY at 8:00AM i measured the sun as 3/8th's of an inch accross (a little less then a 1/2 inch).  I'll check again around solar noon. 

UPDATE:  I measured the width of the sun again at 11:40AM.  It appeard to be between 1/8 and 1/4th of an inch long (a little less then a 1/4 inch)   

I'll double check the results later, but right now the sun seems to appear smaller around noon.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: November 23, 2022, 05:33:25 PM »
So if we can detect curvature only a few miles out to sea, then shouldn't we be able to detect curvature accross the sea?   

I happen to believe that the earth starts to appear spherical from the sky, because of atmospheric refraction (the bending of images and light, etc)... 

Using the method of measuring two or three objects accross a certain distance from another, minimizes the same problems you get with measuring one object at a distance (on sea) - wind, ocean swell, and local refraction phenomena...  Because you can get an average of how high each "ship" is relative to one another, how verticle there masts are and the angles they point away from one another...   Doing this experiment on land with a few buildings or flag poles may also work.

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I see your point.  Why can't you just see the Sun and every other celestrial object 24/7 with a big enough telescope... 

The answer is there's a few things which may explain this...   Perspective, or the natural tendancy for distant objects to appear lower to a viewer, atmospheric interference - like fog except over 1000's of miles, or refraction which is the bending of light or images off the atmosphere...  The below link offer's an example and other ideas/objections to consider.

See "Comprehensive explanation of sunsets" https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=19650.0

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: November 22, 2022, 05:40:11 PM »
If you watched three sail boats sailing away and slowly disappearing because of the earths curvature, then wouldn't you need to assume that the tops of those ships wouldn't be parallel to one another? 



Sorry to hijack this post, but it is similar.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: November 22, 2022, 04:26:05 PM »
Technically, if the earth were round, wouldn't the horizon take a spherical shape?


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Rockets work in a vacuum
« on: November 20, 2022, 04:27:08 PM »
I'm afraid to continue this argument because I don't want to come accross as disrespectful...  I get your point.  It's sinking in.   I'd be lying if I said I can conceptualize this fully though.

Questions like.. if exhaust fumes do nothing compared to the internal action/reaction principle, then what happens if we move the exhaust of a jet in different directions?  Nothing really?  What if we turned the exhaust of  a rocket 180 degrees...  Would the rocket still move forward?  I'm compelled to give credit to the enormous wind power generated by these machines.

But seriously, I know I am a newbie to mechanics so I will read and probably start experimenting with household objects like a garden hose and how much recoil I get at different water settings.. 


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