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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 05:14:37 PM »
He's just asking questions, folks, not making or implying any argument whatsoever, another useless run of posts brought to you by your friend Markjo. 
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 23, 2023, 10:44:22 PM »Trump said that Stormy Daniels was trying to extort him.
Of course he did.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 23, 2023, 02:12:10 PM »Did the "ARREST," happen?
Answer - NO
Does anyone know whether he posted the material?
Answer - NO
Wut. We do know he posted it, lol, that's the magic of social media, you fucking dancing monkey.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 23, 2023, 11:31:40 AM »Summary: More fake news.https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1637938226437537792
Summary;
Trump didn't get arrested and more reporters than protestors showed up.
Guess Trump isn't popular enough to take off work to protest for anymore.
I didn't realize Trump was in the news profession. He was the one whining that he was gonna be arrested Tuesday.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: March 18, 2023, 12:53:21 AM »
https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-sandman-season-2-netflix-casting-four-characters-from-comics/
The writer jumps to a false conclusion based on a mistake. He says that Destruction first appears in "Brief Lies", virtually assuring that they are moving that storyline up in the series. But he first appears in "Orpheus", a one-shot that came out before "A Game of You", and a crucial story to the mythos that will definitely be adapted.
And it would change the whole story if "Brief Lives" was presented earlier than it takes place in the comics. The reason Dream agrees to go on the quest with Delirium to find Destruction is to take his mind off his breakup with Thessaly, who he meets in "A Game of You"; and that breakup is crucial to the events in the final real storyline in the series, "The Kindly Ones" ("The Wake" was more of an epilogue). So I sincerely hope the writer of this article is wrong, because it would fuck everything up.
At any rate Sandman was one of my favorite things from last year and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they proceed with it.
The writer jumps to a false conclusion based on a mistake. He says that Destruction first appears in "Brief Lies", virtually assuring that they are moving that storyline up in the series. But he first appears in "Orpheus", a one-shot that came out before "A Game of You", and a crucial story to the mythos that will definitely be adapted.
And it would change the whole story if "Brief Lives" was presented earlier than it takes place in the comics. The reason Dream agrees to go on the quest with Delirium to find Destruction is to take his mind off his breakup with Thessaly, who he meets in "A Game of You"; and that breakup is crucial to the events in the final real storyline in the series, "The Kindly Ones" ("The Wake" was more of an epilogue). So I sincerely hope the writer of this article is wrong, because it would fuck everything up.
At any rate Sandman was one of my favorite things from last year and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they proceed with it.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Question for my research
« on: March 11, 2023, 01:15:43 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/us/nasa-scientist-guilty-chinese-program/index.html
I hope this helps. I have a feeling that with a little digging you could probably find instances of lies coming from within any large organization, what with human nature being what it is and all.
I hope this helps. I have a feeling that with a little digging you could probably find instances of lies coming from within any large organization, what with human nature being what it is and all.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: March 06, 2023, 07:48:15 PM »They can’t keep getting away with this! The woke mob has gone TOO FAR!
https://comicbook.com/irl/news/goosebumps-author-r-l-stine-rewriting-series-for-sensitivity-ahead-of-reprinting/
It's just as silly and dumb, but I have no problem with people making changes to their own work, it's their prerogative.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 22, 2023, 11:33:36 PM »my big-picture viewpoint is that the coercive suppression of ideas is a necessary component of censorship.
I don't think that's true, and I'm having trouble finding a source that confirms it, and given that it's possible for one to censor oneself, it seems absurd. Can you link to something that supports it, or is it just your personal opinion?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 22, 2023, 09:54:53 PM »Ah, the lemon rule lol.To my recollection, it was a highly advanced way of stopping people from linking to lemonparty. Kind of like how for the longest time "tfes.org" was replaced with "google.com"
Ha, I never thought of that but it makes sense.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 22, 2023, 09:09:44 PM »There's no hope of ever editing Roald Dahl's works into becoming something pleasant or politically correct by today's standards. Dahl's nastiness is baked right into his books, and that's a big part of why kids have always loved them. You can't go through them line by line and edit everything problematic out without the end result feeling nothing like Dahl at all. If they want to keep publishing him, the best solution is probably just to include a preface in each book that warns parents about the language and encourages them to discuss with their children what is or isn't considered appropriate nowadays. The usual suspects would probably still throw a fit about "cancel culture," but there's no helping that.
This is the most reasonable response in this thread. I agree.
On the sister site. Some words are censored by a word filter which is absturd considering you can't say "slemon" without it changing to "slime" unless you put some bbcode brackets between letters like this: Slemon
Ah, the lemon rule lol. I think Daniel just did that for funsies. You know, because it's such a serious site.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 22, 2023, 06:04:08 PM »Anytime you change the writer's original words, that is censorship.
We get banned for shit like that when we do it here.
Tell you what, next time you get published, I'll change the words you write, not only post-publication but post-mortem.. Or would you rather a work you submit for publication, subsequently approved, be released as you submitted it? The "editing that happens all the time," as you put it, happens pre-publication, with any subsequent revisions approved by the author.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
I wonder how bible revisions were approved by the author.
They don't need to be. They are always translations. Sometimes translations are updated to reflect changes in language.
If someone were to update the original ancient Hebrew or Greek to make it more politically correct and say this is what the Bible says from now on you can be sure as shit people would have a problem with it.
The arguments you people are coming up with to try to justify the censorship are at least as absurd as the censorship itself, I literally can't even.
"Political correctness" is not the only driver of 'censorship'. I'm pretty sure the original ancient Hebrew or Greek language has been updated a gazillion times, not just 1-for-1 translated, considering the gazillion versions of the bible. Language altered, softened, whole chapters/gospels removed over the ages. One only has to look as far as the Jefferson Bible.
Bible aside, kind of my extreme example anyway, it's not really a "justification" for censorship so much as does it really matter? Authors self-censoring due to publisher pressures, estates/owners of material with every right to do whatever they want, and the fact that no one is putting a gun to anyone's head to even buy or read any of this stuff. If someone finds an original text offensive, don't read it. If someone finds an alternate version of a text offensive due to revisions made to remove what an owner deemed was offensive, don't read it.
I agree that it's a slippery slope at best with razor thin lines of interpretations. Real troublesome "censorship", for me, is when people who don't have have the legal/ownership authority to revise something demand that something be revised.
All that said, what's more problematic here is that I'm guessing the motivation for this case is that Netflix spent half a billion dollars on the Dahl catalogue and for the 'Mathilda' musical they are working on they want to make sure the supporting book versions match up with their desired sanitized/modernized visual version.
If the Dahl estate was simply doing this out of the goodness of their hearts then whatevs, do what you want. However, this whole thing is about $ at the end of the day and moving more product. It's a win-win: People pissed at the revisions will buy the old books and people embracing the revisions will buy the new books. It's kinda devilishly genius in a way.
It really doesn't matter what the motivation to do it was. The books were expressly censored to make them more politically correct. You are just muddying the issue with these irrelevant tangents.
Also note that I am not arguing about the legality of censoring the books. I imagine if Dahl's estate wanted to alter the books to make them explicit pornography they would have the legal right to do it (they'd have to age up some characters I imagine but why not just go whole hog?). That doesn't mean that they should.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 21, 2023, 11:27:11 PM »Anytime you change the writer's original words, that is censorship.
We get banned for shit like that when we do it here.
Tell you what, next time you get published, I'll change the words you write, not only post-publication but post-mortem.. Or would you rather a work you submit for publication, subsequently approved, be released as you submitted it? The "editing that happens all the time," as you put it, happens pre-publication, with any subsequent revisions approved by the author.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
I wonder how bible revisions were approved by the author.
They don't need to be. They are always translations. Sometimes translations are updated to reflect changes in language.
If someone were to update the original ancient Hebrew or Greek to make it more politically correct and say this is what the Bible says from now on you can be sure as shit people would have a problem with it.
The arguments you people are coming up with to try to justify the censorship are at least as absurd as the censorship itself, I literally can't even.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 21, 2023, 04:36:21 PM »
I mean, it was a weird place for sarcasm, because this is obvious censorship by the literal definition of the word.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Absurd censorship
« on: February 21, 2023, 06:03:13 AM »
Sometimes Tom just happens to be right.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Absurd censorship
« on: February 20, 2023, 11:55:53 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/style/article/roald-dahl-censored-gbr-scli-intl/index.html
I agree with Rushdie, and everyone else that has spoken out against this. If the books offend, don't publish them. According to the article words that have been removed include "fat" and "ugly". That is, indeed, absurd.
Beyond that it's just not right to monkey around with the language used by the original author. Honestly, sometimes this trend towards wokeness really does go too far.
I agree with Rushdie, and everyone else that has spoken out against this. If the books offend, don't publish them. According to the article words that have been removed include "fat" and "ugly". That is, indeed, absurd.
Beyond that it's just not right to monkey around with the language used by the original author. Honestly, sometimes this trend towards wokeness really does go too far.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Balloon Madness
« on: February 12, 2023, 11:39:24 PM »Its weird.
I wonder... are Repubicans happy that Biden is now just blasting them out of the air without any plan or good hope of recovering the debris to learn what it is? Because that's what they wanted on the first one that wasn't shot down immediately.
Republicans are only happy with the opposite of anything Biden does. If Biden were to change his mind about something, they would too.
Of course, anything Biden does is wrong, except when a fellow Republican does it. Finding classified documents at one of Biden's property is evidence of major impropriety that demands immediate investigation into everything connected to Biden, including of course his heinous son Hunter
. Finding classified documents at one of Pence's properties, of course, is no big deal, it was just a mistake and he did nothing wrong. But I suppose that's another issue. The bottom line is that anything Biden does is a grave threat to American society, anything they do can only save American society, even if it's the same thing.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly
« on: February 07, 2023, 01:06:09 AM »It's a pretty odd rebuttal to cite government authorities as evidence against the assertion government authorities are not being honest with us.
You're right, Tom, we should just blindly accept everything we read on the internet as long as it agrees with us and doesn't come from a government authority.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: January 17, 2023, 06:39:08 AM »
Tom Brady gave up Gisele Bundchen so he could lead his team to the worst record of his career and back into the playoffs by not being quite as bad as the other teams in his division lol. I wonder if he'll embarrass himself again next year. 
Seriously, I was just listening to Kurt Warner sounding extremely puzzled over the fact that a 45 year old quarterback doesn't play as well as he used to, while he was getting embarrassed by the Cowboys. It was like a supreme enigma to him. Nobody ever claimed football players had any brains I guess and I'm sure Warner's taken some hits to his head in his career.
Let Tom play till he's 60. Why not lol
Seriously, I was just listening to Kurt Warner sounding extremely puzzled over the fact that a 45 year old quarterback doesn't play as well as he used to, while he was getting embarrassed by the Cowboys. It was like a supreme enigma to him. Nobody ever claimed football players had any brains I guess and I'm sure Warner's taken some hits to his head in his career.
Let Tom play till he's 60. Why not lol
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: January 15, 2023, 05:28:33 AM »
Possibly not. Personally I hope he doesn't win it. The team that has the MVP hasn't won the Superbowl since 1999. It's a cursed award.
FWIW Vegas agrees with you.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Died Suddenly
« on: January 08, 2023, 06:48:28 PM »Exclaiming that none of the articles have vax status might be hyperbole.
Claiming that you checked the ten articles before and the ten articles after is not. That is a blatant lie of claiming to do something you did not do to try to win your argument.
When all Tom has left is to blather on and on about semantics, you know you got him.