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Eamon Ryan on the NDP:

"If I was to pick out one project or example of what is going to change things it is Metropolitan Rail for Cork. We have already committed to that in the Recovery and Resilience Fund - those Midleton and Mallow lines, new stations, housing beside the stations shows how we can tackle the housing crisis and climate crisis at the same time."

It's very good to see cities in the west getting the same attention that has been mainly centred on Dublin until now.

After spending the past 30 years covering their share of the island with a world-class motorway network, the Republic of Ireland is now shifting priorities towards cleaner transport options. Specifically, they have a "two-to-one" rule in favour of public transport in this year's National Development Plan, as the Irish Times reports.

In all €35 billion has been earmarked for transport spending until 2030. All of the big roads projects contained in the Fine Gael government’s plan from 2018 have been retained – including the M20 motorway from Cork to Limerick; the Galway City outer ring road; the co-funded A5 to Derry; the upgrade of the N4 from Mullingar to Longford; and the N24 from Limerick to Waterford.

While their inclusion was being presented by sources in both Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael as a “win” for those parties, it was quietly acknowledged within Government circles that the programme for government commitment to a two-to-one ratio favouring public transport over roads, in addition to exacting climate-change obligations, would mean at least some of those projects would not be progressed.
The "co-funded A5 to Derry" refers to the N2 Dublin–Derry road, the northern half of which is signposted as A5 by the British government. As the Republic has an interest in the Dublin–Derry corridor, they are contributing funds to improvement of the route within Northern Ireland.

A significant part of the reason for the priority shift is that the Green Party is part of the coalition government for the second time in history.

A senior Minister from one of the bigger coalition parties agreed. “Every thing is being climate assessed. You must remember it is (Green Party leader) Eamon Ryan who is managing the Department of Transport and also the transport budget.”

Even among the road projects, it seems we can expect prioritisation based on climate impact.

All of the major projects will also be climate-proofed, with those deemed “climate-positive” and “neutral” getting preference over those classed as “climate-negative”.

This is very promising — Ireland is lagging significantly behind most of western Europe in terms of public transport, and it will be great to see some improvements there. I am also glad to see that road projects are being deprioritised rather than scrapped entirely, as some road projects (such as the Cork–Limerick road, whether that ends up being motorway or not) are sorely needed for economic development, but it would be nice to see them completed in an ecologically sustainable way.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 03, 2021, 10:05:14 PM »
I'll wear a mask when manufacturers state on the packaging that wearing the mask is an effective measure in prevention and transmission of the virus.
Do you also refuse to eat food that doesn't state on the packaging that it's effective at keeping you alive?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The workings of European democracy
« on: October 02, 2021, 11:49:37 PM »
The leader of the Renew European Parliament group is stepping down after being elected leader of his party in Romania. Sophie in 't Veld, a member of the Dutch party Democrats 66, has already announced a bid for the EP group leadership.

Dutch EU lawmaker Sophie In’t Veld has staked her claim to become president of the centrist Renew Europe, the third-biggest political group in the European Parliament, after the current president, Romania’s Dacian Cioloş, announced plans to step down.

“As Group leader, it would be my mission to further consolidate and strengthen our political family. We are more than the sum of its parts, we are one for Europe,” she told EURACTIV on Saturday (2 October).

Arts & Entertainment / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
« on: October 02, 2021, 07:23:26 PM »
Your shitty [time] tag doesn't account for things like British Summer Time. So now it misinforms any English users wanting to watch the game.
It accounts for whatever time offset you have configured in your user preferences. Not my fault if you haven't updated that for summer time.

(And yes, SMF should be able to handle summer time automatically, but if I had a euro for everything SMF should do but doesn't...)

Arts & Entertainment / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup
« on: October 02, 2021, 07:13:53 PM »
  • October 09, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Andorra–England (Estadio Nacional de Andorra)
Thanks for reminding me to order an Andorran flag.

Also, learn to use the [time] tag. I edited your quote to give you an example. It will automatically convert to each user's configured timezone and format.

Arts & Entertainment / 2022 FIFA World Cup
« on: October 02, 2021, 03:17:21 PM »
The qualifying rounds are well underway for most FIFA regions for next year's World Cup in Qatar. There are a few games I'm interested in next week:
  • October 08, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Latvia–Netherlands (Riga)
  • October 09, 2021, 01:00:00 PM — Ethiopia–South Africa (Bahir Dar)
  • October 09, 2021, 04:00:00 PM — Azerbaijan–Republic of Ireland (Baku)
  • October 09, 2021, 06:45:00 PM — Switzerland–Northern Ireland (Geneva)
Of all these teams, only Azerbaijan is already eliminated from qualifying, and the Republic of Ireland can only qualify through the playoffs.

I don't know whether I'll be able to watch all of these games online, but I'll try to if I can. Should be interesting.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 01, 2021, 12:58:09 PM »

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: October 01, 2021, 12:27:17 PM »
I've tried a manual workaround for now, but the automation will undo it in about 10 hours if I don't make it permanent. Can you try again and let me know if it helped?
I have confirmation that this helps, at least for some clients. I'll make it permanent later.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: October 01, 2021, 12:21:22 PM »
I've tried a manual workaround for now, but the automation will undo it in about 10 hours if I don't make it permanent. Can you try again and let me know if it helped?

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: October 01, 2021, 11:57:43 AM »
Getting an error this morning.

* Connection failed (certificate has expired.? (10))
This is because the Let's Encrypt root CA expired yesterday. Some older clients don't yet trust the new root, but up-to-date ones should.

You can try updating your TLS library version, although I'm not sure exactly how to do this on Windows. Maybe installing the latest version of your IRC client will do the trick?

I am going to look into a workaround, but this is fundamentally a problem with your client, not the server.

What is their policy on putting food on supermarket shelves?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 03:20:46 PM »
You now admit that it is not uniformed because it is a media narrative, that its not just my opinion but the one held by mainstream news outlets, and that far from being useless, it is a credible way of thinking about the EU.
No, I admitted none of those things. It's uninformed because you Googled for a media narrative that you think agrees with you, rather than basing your opinion on a balanced reading of diverse sources. Only one of your "sources" — have you read them yet? — unreservedly agrees with you, and it's the one that is two years out of date and has already been proven wrong. The only mainstream news outlets you presented are American, probably because you couldn't find any mainstream European media willing to resort to such oversimplifications.

I don't even know where you got "credible" from. That is the opposite of everything I have said.

I'm going to assume that you resorting to lies about what I've said means you're aware that you're wrong. Apology accepted.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 02:51:10 PM »
Forced into a shitty deal
No, we are not having this conversation again. If you want to find out why you are wrong, you can re-read the last umpteen times we talked about this.

There are 25 sheep nations with no money, utterly dependent on France and Germany. They'll follow on or the other.

Merkel's demise has been on the cards for some time. We've all known this would happen for ages. Its only a a surprise that you didn't realise that Macron is going to be the EU's de facto leader, being as you live there and all.
You are just being extremist, as usual — but I shouldn't be surprised about this from a Tory supporter. Nobody is denying that Macron has and will continue to have influence, but calling him "the leader of the EU" is nothing but media hype.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 02:41:16 PM »
We ended up having to have a general election and having to expel the speaker of the house in order to put things right. Fun fact ... he is the only speak in British history not to be made a Lord after his tenure. Traitors don't get rewarded.
So you "put things right" by passing what you just called a "shitty deal" 10 minutes ago. ???

So Merkel was leader, Macron is vying for leader, but some people aren't sure if he can pull it off. Yeah, that bit where some people aren't sure makes me way off.  ::)
I can be vying for leader if I want to. It doesn't make any difference if nobody follows me.

Nice cherry picking though. How about we pick a source a little closer to home.
Quote from:
The West may no longer be the leader of the world. But the EU has a new leader and it’s no longer Merkel: it’s French President Emmanuel Macron.
Have you looked at the date on that article?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 02:31:42 PM »
We ended up with a shitty deal from our European rivals as our own parties refused to cooperate. That's terrible for us. Coalitions usually are. I wish Germany all the luck we had.
Can you please stop saying this? It's wrong, it has always been wrong, and it will always be wrong. The "shitty deal" ye have was negotiated and agreed by Boris Johnson and David Frost, with a clear majority in the House of Commons. Stop trying to blame your country's awful decisions on anyone else you can remember the name of.

Almost every news outlet shares my opinion.
What a surprise, you haven't read your own sources again.

No one figure — not even Mr. Macron, or a new German chancellor — will be as influential as Ms. Merkel was at her strongest

Can you please stop spamming the thread with nonsense now?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 02:16:44 PM »
I just lived through a few years of a coalition in my own nation. A complete stalemate. No one giving any ground, no one compromising ... and we weren't able to move on from Brexit.
Indeed, that coalition worked out very well. The DUP correctly recognised that the proposed Withdrawal Agreement would be terrible for Irish unionists, and so they blocked what would have been an economic disaster for them. Then, after the 2019 election, the same agreement was passed and there were riots in Northern Ireland over the problems it caused. Now Boris is desperately trying to get the EU to let him wrangle out of it.

If only ye still had a coalition to block such dreadful legislation and save yere country from its present humiliation!

One interesting side effect is that Macron will now become the de facto leader of Europe.
Stop. Just stop. You do not understand Europe, and if you don't by now, you never will. Your uninformed opinions are worse than useless.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 01:58:59 PM »
If they can't agree (be on the same side) then they can't pass legislation and you get nothing done. You'll get dumb stuff done like commissioning 4000 windmills at enormous expense, but you won't fix roads or mend tax loop holes.
It's quite astounding how poor your understanding of politics is. Two parties are never consistently "on the same side" or on different sides. Which "side" a party takes depends on the issue at hand — for example, socialists and greens usually agree that minority rights are a good thing, but may argue about whether to spend money on welfare or climate initiatives. Conservatives and liberals generally agree on limiting government interference in business, but may differ on the role of government in education and healthcare.

So, the purpose of a coalition is to find common ground where possible, and to find compromises where there is no common ground. This means that supporters of any one party are unlikely to get exactly what they want, which — if you lack an understanding of the process — may appear as "getting nothing done". In that case, you might be happier if you go live in a dictatorship instead. They get plenty done.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 01:33:32 PM »
No to which one? Are they going to be green and poorer, or dirty and prosperous?

Says a man who champions a superstate and squeals about people voting against it.
It's remarkable that after all these years, you still don't understand my position.

Boris Johnson's Conservatives are your AfD equivalent.
This is beyond dumb.
That's what I've been saying.

Debate is when two OPPOSING parties meet. When parties are on the same side and fail to agree, nothing gets done.
What the hell are you talking about? If they don't agree, they aren't on the same side. That's what it means to not be on the same side.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Germany elects a new Bundestag
« on: September 27, 2021, 01:14:05 PM »
So will Germany be ending its reliance on coal thereby pushing energy costs through the roof and losing their manufacturing advantage over the rest of the developed world and seeing further decline in their automotive sector ... or will the greens just turn a blind eye to Germany being the dirty man of Europe?

We had this in the UK where the Lib dems where allegedly the kingmakers.
Yes, I am well aware of how ineffectual British politics is. You don't need to remind me.

What are you talking about divisive extremism? We have the most stable political system in Europe.
No, Belarus has the most stable political system in Europe, although the UK isn't looking much different these days.

We don't have an AfD equivalent or a far left equivalent. The Germans have extremist parties. So do the Dutch for that matter. The UK does not.
Boris Johnson's Conservatives are your AfD equivalent. That is why UKIP doesn't have any seats in the House of Commons anymore — the Tories took over that role. As you already pointed out, they are your largest party at the moment.

Its awesome. You've a coalition in Germany which means a nation paralysed by inter-party fighting.
Yes, it's called debate. You know, the thing that distinguishes democracy from dictatorship.

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