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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on June 26, 2025, 09:57:43 AM »

If someone else was asking the question, I would reply, " Ask harder."

But, I don't think you want a war.

of course i dont. what normal human would actually want a war (aside from people who get paid to talk about how there should be a war). maybe i need to switch to journalism, id love to make 20% 70%+ or less than i do now to yell at people why war is coming. also, trump bad, two more weeks, etc...

There are a lot of regular posters here clamoring for war, demanding the US continue to support Ukraine and Israel in their wars.

I am glad you don't view them as normal.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on June 26, 2025, 06:53:05 AM »

I don't agree with the people giving even grudging credit to Trump over this. Trump clearly said that there was a ceasefire, and Israel and Iran clearly disregarded him and continued their war. The fact that at a later time Israel and Iran really did agree on a ceasefire doesn't somehow ripple back through time and imbue Trump's impotent declaration with retroactive relevance. No, Trump was bullshitting, because he's a thoroughly stupid man and a habitual liar, and he almost certainly played a very limited role (at best) in the actual ceasefire.

I dunno. While I certainly agree that orange man bad, it's not like he announced a ceasefire, then the war continued for another few weeks and then there was a ceasefire. After Trump announced the ceasefire there were some subsequent skirmishes, he yelled at them both and since then the ceasefire has held. Whether it will continue to hold remains to be seen of course. And of course like always he's massively exaggerating how effective everything he does is. But the timing is such that I don't think you can entirely detach the current ceasefire from his actions.
Don't get me wrong, this wasn't some brilliant strategic move from Trump. He operates entirely by gut feel. So if he did get this right it was more luck than judgement. But there are some tentative signs that he might have got it right.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by honk on June 26, 2025, 01:22:52 AM »

I don't agree with the people giving even grudging credit to Trump over this. Trump clearly said that there was a ceasefire, and Israel and Iran clearly disregarded him and continued their war. The fact that at a later time Israel and Iran really did agree on a ceasefire doesn't somehow ripple back through time and imbue Trump's impotent declaration with retroactive relevance. No, Trump was bullshitting, because he's a thoroughly stupid man and a habitual liar, and he almost certainly played a very limited role (at best) in the actual ceasefire.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by juner on June 25, 2025, 08:22:40 PM »

If someone else was asking the question, I would reply, " Ask harder."

But, I don't think you want a war.

of course i dont. what normal human would actually want a war (aside from people who get paid to talk about how there should be a war). maybe i need to switch to journalism, id love to make 20% 70%+ or less than i do now to yell at people why war is coming. also, trump bad, two more weeks, etc...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« Last post by Dr Van Nostrand on June 25, 2025, 11:44:40 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Dr Van Nostrand on June 25, 2025, 11:37:59 AM »

Whisper it quietly, but he might have got this one right.
The ceasefire is holding, for now. Early days yet of course.
And naturally he's going "laa laa laa, can't hear you" at all the intelligence indicating the striker might have not been quite as effective at obliterating the Iranian nuclear sites as he's claiming.

I wonder what is wrong with him that he has to always claim the superlative, always be so absolute. All the "they said this was the greatest..." stuff. Who are "they"? And was it the greatest? (That's just an example, not referring to anything specific, just generally the way he talks such utter bollocks all the time.)

He was raised to believe himself to be the best.  His brain is just broken and now everything has to be at the extreme.  Either extreme great (because he's never wrong according to everyone he pays), or extreme bad (for everything against him).

Trump's behavior is easily explained by his megalomaniacal, narcissistic, Main Character Syndrome. What's harder to explain is his legions of idiotic followers believing it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on June 25, 2025, 10:18:23 AM »

The "no new wars" president has now begun a war with Iran.

i was promised a war by all the talking heads. where is the war?

If someone else was asking the question, I would reply, " Ask harder."

But, I don't think you want a war.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Interviewing a Flat Earth supporter

« Last post by Pete Svarrior on June 25, 2025, 09:52:39 AM »

Your questions are too broad, considering how much material is available on the subject. Please don't come here and ask that we personally tutor you on "what our arguments are" - we won't do that, and you'll mostly get snarky responses.

Start with the Wiki/FAQ, understand that they're only an introduction to the subject, and then dig deeper. Once you've covered some of the ground work, come back and let's talk about the more detailed questions you might have.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on June 25, 2025, 09:12:37 AM »

Whisper it quietly, but he might have got this one right.
The ceasefire is holding, for now. Early days yet of course.
And naturally he's going "laa laa laa, can't hear you" at all the intelligence indicating the striker might have not been quite as effective at obliterating the Iranian nuclear sites as he's claiming.

I wonder what is wrong with him that he has to always claim the superlative, always be so absolute. All the "they said this was the greatest..." stuff. Who are "they"? And was it the greatest? (That's just an example, not referring to anything specific, just generally the way he talks such utter bollocks all the time.)

He was raised to believe himself to be the best.  His brain is just broken and now everything has to be at the extreme.  Either extreme great (because he's never wrong according to everyone he pays), or extreme bad (for everything against him).

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on June 25, 2025, 09:02:47 AM »

Whisper it quietly, but he might have got this one right.
The ceasefire is holding, for now. Early days yet of course.
And naturally he's going "laa laa laa, can't hear you" at all the intelligence indicating the striker might have not been quite as effective at obliterating the Iranian nuclear sites as he's claiming.

I wonder what is wrong with him that he has to always claim the superlative, always be so absolute. All the "they said this was the greatest..." stuff. Who are "they"? And was it the greatest? (That's just an example, not referring to anything specific, just generally the way he talks such utter bollocks all the time.)