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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: I am wondering why I do not see...

« on: April 13, 2024, 10:21:32 AM »

Why is the Moon's shadow at the time of the Total Solar Eclipse placed elsewhere other than the plane of the ecliptic upon the earth? The time of the Total Eclipse should be where the Moon intersects the Sun on the Ecliptic.

The "Path of Totality", where the Moon completely completely covers the Sun in Total Solar Eclipse, and the point where the Moon crosses the Ecliptic in the sky to the observer, is often visible to observers from a very odd shape upon the Earth. All of the observers on this darkened path see the Moon completely covering the sun in complete totality:

https://www.exploratorium.edu/eclipse/2024-total-solar-eclipse-guide

If you plot that path on an actual globe, you will see it's a perfect RE-based arc (in 3D that is). If you look at that line straight on, it will be straight, and in perfect sync with RE theory.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: I am wondering why I do not see...

« on: April 09, 2024, 11:03:26 PM »

Saw it today. Transcendent experience, I'm so glad I traveled to Texas to see it. I don't think it really proves anything about the shape of the Earth, but it's definitely a potent reminder of how awe-inspiring (and, dare I say, magical) the universe can be.

It could be used to create a juxtapostion map between moon and sun to be superimposed on a FE map to see if it makes sense. RE explains it perfectly. Can a FE model be created that does so?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Islamic veil debate.

« on: October 07, 2022, 07:50:37 PM »

Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'

He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.

That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".

Consent not required per Allah.

So men can legally rape women?
Fuck Islam, fuck religions, and fuck you.

I'm with you on 2 out of 3, but what's your problem with me? Do you think I'm endorsing marital rape?

For a sec I thought you were spreading terrorism on this forum like a guy on the other forum.
Sorry about that.
STOP PROMOTING TERRORISM.

I'm not promoting it. I'm showing where Muslims get this crap from so you'll be informed.

I'm saying that to people who are promoting it.

Okay. All good.

I gotta say that they saw what Mohammad (piss be upon him) was doing with little girls and thought "hey, we should legalize child rape and pedophilia".

The sad fact is that if Mohamed did it, then it's already defacto legalized.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Islamic veil debate.

« on: October 07, 2022, 07:43:09 PM »

Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'

He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.

That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".

Consent not required per Allah.

So men can legally rape women?
Fuck Islam, fuck religions, and fuck you.

I'm with you on 2 out of 3, but what's your problem with me? Do you think I'm endorsing marital rape?

For a sec I thought you were spreading terrorism on this forum like a guy on the other forum.
Sorry about that.
STOP PROMOTING TERRORISM.

I'm not promoting it. I'm showing where Muslims get this crap from so you'll be informed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Islamic veil debate.

« on: October 07, 2022, 07:39:43 PM »

Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'

He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.

That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".

Consent not required per Allah.

So men can legally rape women?
Fuck Islam, fuck religions, and fuck you.

I'm with you on 2 out of 3, but what's your problem with me? Do you think I'm endorsing marital rape?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Islamic veil debate.

« on: October 07, 2022, 07:33:59 PM »

Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'

He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.

That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".

Consent not required per Allah.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Islamic veil debate.

« on: October 07, 2022, 06:44:18 PM »

Imagine basing societal decisions on an ancient text written by a child raping warlord.

.... as is done is several Islamic theocracies.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / The Islamic veil debate.

« on: October 07, 2022, 06:07:02 PM »

The death of Mahsa Amini in Iran and resulting demonstrations have people yet again debating what the Qur'an says about veiling. I had a closer look at two verses on the subject, and although a less ambiguous directive from Allah would have saved a lot of uncertainty, it looks to me as though the Qur'an does indeed encourage full-body covering, as opposed to merely 'modest' dress.

The word for word translation of verse 33:59 (The Quranic Arabic Corpus - Word by Word Grammar, Syntax and Morphology of the Holy Quran) says that believing woman should "draw over themselves their outer garments" so that they "should be known and not harmed".

The first underlined phrase seems to define an extra, outer layer of covering, and the second supports that interpretation by indicating that the degree of body coverage should be obvious enough to make Muslim women stand out from others.

Verse 24:31 is long-winded and harder to follow, but it also commands Muslim women to cover themselves to a greater degree than they do at home. They are told to, "draw their headcovers over their bosoms", and to not "display their adornment" except to family members and household staff. The inclusion of non-blood male relatives, such as fathers-in-law and nephews, in the list of those to whom a woman may "display her adornment" is crucial to defining the difference between acceptable dress in the home vs. when out. I think it's safe to assume that a Muslim women would already be modestly dressed in her father-in-law's presence, so to insist on even further coverage when outside the house is consistent with saying that she must bring her head covering down as far as her already covered bosoms, which, by definition, would also cover her face.

IMO, those verses are more suggestive of full-body veiling than not.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Found a fully working flat earth model?

« on: February 01, 2022, 12:13:27 AM »

Forget maps for second. Get in a car, and drive from one coast of Australia to the other. How far does the odo say you've travelled?

Or ask anyone in charge of buying materials for building such roads, laying pipe, stringing phone lines, etc. They base the amount the asphalt, pipe, and line on known mileage which just happens to comply with RE distances.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Where is Google Maps wrong?

« on: January 30, 2022, 07:05:11 AM »

The only reliable distance measurement method is an odometer, and people haven't measured large portions of the earth with it.

I drove from Perth to Darwin, and every single leg of that trip complied exactly with RET-based predictions. Just sayin'.

(Btw, same with Calgary - Key West - Toronto - Calgary).

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Will Inspiration4 convince Flat Earth believers?

« on: October 03, 2021, 03:49:41 PM »

I thought that was a pretty neat shot...  It doesn't say much to me about the overall shape of the earth..

If there are sufficient landmarks or other geographical features, and a reasonably cloudless sky, then, as with the Red Bull Space Jump footage, it can be determined whether or not the landmarks are within the viewing scope of a spherical cap, based on the orbital height or altitude of the craft. 

What I've seen of the Inspiration footage thus far seems plagued by cloud, though...

Couldn't the same test be done from a Cessna 150 or the top of the Empire State building? The math would work just as well, and landmarks would be easier to see.

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: We are your friends from Russia and Europe

« on: September 29, 2021, 03:08:35 PM »

Do you have a launch date?

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Flat Earth Theory / Building a map of the flat earth using "sunrise" and "sunset".

« on: June 26, 2021, 03:56:37 PM »

FEers and REers agree on just about nothing. However, I don't see how "sunrise" and "sunset" times can be disputed. They are documented and easily verifiable. For example, I randomly googled sunrise times for Sunday, June 27, 2021 for Helsinki and got 3:57 a.m. (GMT+3), and Cape Town and got 7:52 a.m. (GMT+2). World-wide times for both "sunrise" and "sunset" could be gathered and input to a spatial interpolation algorithm to create a light/dark demarcation line for the entire world at any given time.

Another point of agreement is probably that the dark/light demarcation line is smooth as opposed to a zig-zag. The RE model is pretty clear on that. For FE, the spotlight effect is also shown to have a smooth radius creating a circular demarcation line.

Given those two points of agreement, the locations associated with each time could then be plotted on a map with various spotlight radii to create test FE maps. This process could be repeated as many times as necessary, and at all times of the year, and tested with digital cross-correlation until only one scenario fits all locations at all times, thus creating an accurate FE map.

Comments? 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Question about flat earth model, sunsetband sunrise

« on: June 17, 2021, 10:51:20 PM »

I highly recommend perusing the wiki here!  Just keep in mind it is a wiki, and not a bible.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Sunrise_and_Sunset

In my view the distance the light from the sun can travel (all light in general) is finite.  The two main reasons for this are light’s natural attenuation (because it is a pressure wave) and the typical density gradient in our air which causes light to curve convexly towards the ground.

The bolded bit is dead wrong. Light is NOT a pressure wave.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/physics/chapter/introduction-11/    From the link:

Many people confuse sound waves with radio waves, one type of electromagnetic (EM) wave. However, sound and radio waves are completely different phenomena. Sound creates pressure variations (waves) in matter, such as air or water, or your eardrum. Conversely, radio waves are electromagnetic waves, like visible light, infrared, ultraviolet, X-rays, and gamma rays. EM waves don’t need a medium in which to propagate; they can travel through a vacuum

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Where does the Earth's energy come from? (genuine question)

« on: June 06, 2021, 12:13:43 AM »

The Earth's energy comes from heat deep underground the surface. The deepest we have drilled on record is about 7 miles at the Kola superdeep borehole. Boy that lava must be really deep. No one knows how deep because we can't stick a tape measure down there.

Where is the energy "from heat deep underground the surface" released? For it to contribute to heating the surface of the earth it must vent somewhere.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes

« on: June 03, 2021, 03:30:45 PM »

Are you saying that no one should care about or debate policies that only affect a small amount of people?

Lol

I don't understand your point.

Based on what follows, I got that.

Regardless, if a single transwoman is on a team, that affects the entire team as well as every team that specific team plays. It ultimately affects the entire sport.

Lol

"LOL" isn't an answer. What did he get wrong?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Where does the Earth's energy come from? (genuine question)

« on: May 28, 2021, 02:28:11 PM »

if the sun is much smaller than believed by modern science, then how can it produce enough energy for the earth, and is there another energy source that I’ve missed?

The simplest answer is that it is unknown.  Once the fusion mythology, which is no more sound (indeed, profoundly stupid) than the "theory" of the giant ignited street lamp in the sky that preceded it, is done away with - there is no obvious potential explanation for the source of the power.  In any case, the output of the sun doesn't vary just because our mythology does. 

The very concept that the sun is the source of all power is most likely flawed, and a manifestation of basic primative sun/helios worship.

What part of "sunburn" has you confused?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Islam and Flat Earth

« on: May 26, 2021, 03:52:28 PM »

(مَنِ اهْتَدَىٰ فَإِنَّمَا يَهْتَدِي لِنَفْسِهِ ۖ وَمَنْ ضَلَّ فَإِنَّمَا يَضِلُّ عَلَيْهَا ۚ وَلَا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَىٰ ۗ وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَ حَتَّىٰ نَبْعَثَ رَسُولًا)

Whoever chooses to be guided, it is only for their own good. And whoever chooses to stray, it is only to their own loss. No soul burdened with sin will bear the burden of another. And We would never punish ˹a people˺ until We have sent a messenger ˹to warn them˺.
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Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger.

(وَكَذَٰلِكَ أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ رُوحًا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا ۚ مَا كُنْتَ تَدْرِي مَا الْكِتَابُ وَلَا الْإِيمَانُ وَلَٰكِنْ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُورًا نَهْدِي بِهِ مَنْ نَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِنَا ۚ وَإِنَّكَ لَتَهْدِي إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُسْتَقِيمٍ)

And so We have sent to you ˹O Prophet˺ a revelation by Our command. You did not know of ˹this˺ Book and faith ˹before˺. But We have made it a light, by which We guide whoever We will of Our servants. And you are truly leading ˹all˺ to the Straight Path—
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And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command [i.e., the Qur’ān]. You did not know what is the Book or [what is] faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muḥammad], you guide to a straight path -

 (صِرَاطِ اللَّهِ الَّذِي لَهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ أَلَا إِلَى اللَّهِ تَصِيرُ الأمور)
the Path of Allah, to Whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Surely to Allah all matters will return ˹for judgment˺.
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The path of Allah, to whom belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Unquestionably, to Allah do [all] matters evolve [i.e., return].

https://quran.com

That was preaching Islam. It had nothing to do with whether or not the earth is flat.

And yes, I've read the qur'an. It is 6,236 verses of pure, unadulterated BS.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Islam and Flat Earth

« on: May 18, 2021, 03:11:03 PM »

The qur'an, to the best of my knowledge, never explicitly says the earth is flat. It says it is "spread out", which implies it. It also implies it's held in place by "firm mountains".

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why?

« on: May 13, 2021, 10:30:13 PM »

Let’s say the earth is flat, why would nasa hide the truth

And why did every cartographer in the world base their maps on the round earth for 400 years before NASA existed?