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I asked chatgpt if light travels in waves or as particles.For your own sake, please don't admit to things like this in public. I don't mean here - your reputation here is beyond salvation - but more generally.
The official TFES model of the cosmos says that light is bending upwards. The article argues that there is no reason to assume that light travels in straight lines, and that curved lines are more natural in nature.
The Double Slit Experiment has shown that light exhibits wave-like properties and discredits the old idea that light exists purely as discrete particles. Not only has it discredited the old particle theory of light, but it also appears to discredit the axiom that light travels in straight lines. In these experiments it is seen that wave interference produces curved paths.
any point made about it only happening when one photon acts upon another or a photon acting upon itself, is fairly irrelevant.It doesn’t only happen with one photon. That’s not what I said. It’s the fact it STILL happens with one photon at a time which is the weird thing, and that it stops happening if you observe which slit the photon goes throughQuoteLight travels in curved paths.Incorrect. The interference pattern only happens because of the slits and the wave behaviour of light when going through small apertures.
If you take a compass and draw a circle on a sphere you are correct the higher you are above the center point, the farther away the horizon will be ...... What you would see above a sphere could be different than what you would see above a flat disk. (Snipped to highlight salient point.)
As for the pictures out of the window of an airplane...The solution is to take a series of pictures. Start at something like 10,000 feet and then 20,000 and so on up to the max cruising altitude. Then you can compare all the pictures when you get home. If there's a little more curvature in the max altitude picture than the one at 10,000 feet you can use that for your proof and the aircraft window factor would be compensated for. It would be difficult to conclusively show much curvature below 40 or 50 thousand feet. Most airliners don't usually get that high very often. There are pictures out there from military aircraft that do show curvature, but they don't usually show the series of pictures and that gives the flat earthers a little wiggle room and they shout, 'aircraft window distortion every time'.
Good starting point Ron, but 2 considerations;
1. You'd need a mechanism to ensure that your camera is in precisely the same position and centre-of-image for each exposure, and ensure that your camera (phone, whatever) is using precisely the same focal length.
2. The focal length of the aircraft window is not constant. If you've never seen an aircraft undergoing a pressurisation test on the ground, you'd be surprised at how much the windows bulge and distort. The higher the pressure differential, the greater the distortion.
And just another point on Everette's suggestion about the shape of the wing as a reference. It's a non-starter. There is no way that a passenger (or even the pilot, for that matter) can know the present curvature of the wing. The wing is constantly flexing due to normal acceleration ("g") and as the auto flight control system moves the ailerons and spoilers for gust alleviation.
Hello,
Although I'm a fellow roundy, such photos do not prove that the earth is a ball. If the earth were flat and round (like a circular throw rug), your picture would look the same.
To see what I mean, take a basketball and a picture of a basketball and have someone hold them up. The profile will look the same.
Thanks, but I don’t really understand how your basketball analogy makes much sense here. On a flat, circular plane, as you get to higher altitudes, you wouldn’t see a consistent curve everywhere you look. You’d start to see the edges of the disc coming into view, which would create an outward-curving effect, maybe even elliptical distortion as you looked toward the edge. At high enough altitudes, you’d essentially be looking at the entire flat circle from above—basic geometry. My photo shows you a clear downward curvature that is perfectly consistent with a spherical Earth. It matched the predictions for Earth on the Walter Bislin tool when I typed in the altitude and FOV. It’s not just a visual artifact. I’m sorry, but if the Earth were flat, the measurements and my curvature here simply wouldn’t align with reality. And I think your basketball analogy is problematic because basketballs are 3D spheres, so naturally, their profile will always show consistent curvature. But if you compare this to your throw rug and view it from any angle other than directly above, you’ll notice that the curvature rate doesn’t behave the same way. The rate of curvature would change depending on where you were and how you were looking at it. It doesn’t curve downward and uniformly like the horizon in my photo. A flat surface, or even a circular one, cannot produce the consistent, measurable curvature I have here. If the Earth were flat, you would need to explain why this curvature is visible at all and why it aligns so precisely with spherical models. Sorry if I misunderstood anything you were saying, please correct me if I did. The way I interpreted your response didn’t quite add up.
Why is the Moon's shadow at the time of the Total Solar Eclipse placed elsewhere other than the plane of the ecliptic upon the earth? The time of the Total Eclipse should be where the Moon intersects the Sun on the Ecliptic.
The "Path of Totality", where the Moon completely completely covers the Sun in Total Solar Eclipse, and the point where the Moon crosses the Ecliptic in the sky to the observer, is often visible to observers from a very odd shape upon the Earth. All of the observers on this darkened path see the Moon completely covering the sun in complete totality:
https://www.exploratorium.edu/eclipse/2024-total-solar-eclipse-guide
Saw it today. Transcendent experience, I'm so glad I traveled to Texas to see it. I don't think it really proves anything about the shape of the Earth, but it's definitely a potent reminder of how awe-inspiring (and, dare I say, magical) the universe can be.
Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'
He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.
That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".
Consent not required per Allah.
So men can legally rape women?
Fuck Islam, fuck religions, and fuck you.
I'm with you on 2 out of 3, but what's your problem with me? Do you think I'm endorsing marital rape?
For a sec I thought you were spreading terrorism on this forum like a guy on the other forum.
Sorry about that.
STOP PROMOTING TERRORISM.
I'm not promoting it. I'm showing where Muslims get this crap from so you'll be informed.
I'm saying that to people who are promoting it.
I gotta say that they saw what Mohammad (piss be upon him) was doing with little girls and thought "hey, we should legalize child rape and pedophilia".
Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'
He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.
That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".
Consent not required per Allah.
So men can legally rape women?
Fuck Islam, fuck religions, and fuck you.
I'm with you on 2 out of 3, but what's your problem with me? Do you think I'm endorsing marital rape?
For a sec I thought you were spreading terrorism on this forum like a guy on the other forum.
Sorry about that.
STOP PROMOTING TERRORISM.
Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'
He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.
That comes from verse 2:223, "Yusuf Ali: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will".
Consent not required per Allah.
So men can legally rape women?
Fuck Islam, fuck religions, and fuck you.
Hamza told a male audience in Sydney: 'Amazing, how can a person rape his wife?'
He added that wives must immediately respond to their husbands' sexual demands.
Imagine basing societal decisions on an ancient text written by a child raping warlord.
Forget maps for second. Get in a car, and drive from one coast of Australia to the other. How far does the odo say you've travelled?
Or ask anyone in charge of buying materials for building such roads, laying pipe, stringing phone lines, etc. They base the amount the asphalt, pipe, and line on known mileage which just happens to comply with RE distances.
The only reliable distance measurement method is an odometer, and people haven't measured large portions of the earth with it.
I thought that was a pretty neat shot... It doesn't say much to me about the overall shape of the earth..
If there are sufficient landmarks or other geographical features, and a reasonably cloudless sky, then, as with the Red Bull Space Jump footage, it can be determined whether or not the landmarks are within the viewing scope of a spherical cap, based on the orbital height or altitude of the craft.
What I've seen of the Inspiration footage thus far seems plagued by cloud, though...
