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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 18, 2024, 09:07:13 PM »
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-07-15-24/index.html

Trump wins.  His Judge has basically said all special appointments are unconstitutional and thus the case is dismissed, which breaks from every other judge whose had this. Also, she did this after over a year!  Why didn't she dismiss it sooner?  Because she's corrupt.


Mark my words: if Trump wins, he'll appointment her to SCOTUS.
Jack Smith had no standing, AT ALL.

Ok, so what was the correct, proper, standing person or group that should have been used?  The DoJ?  The President?  Mitch McConnel?
The correct proper way to appoint special counsel is for Congress to approve the appointment.

That is why Mueller never went anywhere and why Smith was going nowhere.

Truman Show shit.
But that wasn't the ruling. The ruling was that all special counsels were unconstitutional.  All of them.
" ...is there a statute in the United States Code that authorizes the appointment of Special Counsel Smith to conduct this prosecution? After careful study of this seminal issue, the answer is no."

"If the political branches wish to grant the Attorney General power to appoint Special Counsel Smith to investigate and prosecute this action with the full powers of a United States Attorney, there is a valid means by which to do so. He can be appointed and confirmed through the default method prescribed in the Appointments Clause, as Congress has directed for United States Attorneys throughout
American history, see 28 U.S.C. ยง 541, or Congress can authorize his appointment through enactment of positive statutory law consistent with the Appointments Clause."

Maybe you can find something in the ruling that mentions ALL special counsels.

Oh hey, found the authority.
28USC 533.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/533#:~:text=28%20U.S.%20Code%20%C2%A7%20533%20%2D%20Investigative%20and%20other%20officials%3B%20appointment,-U.S.%20Code&text=to%20conduct%20such%20other%20investigations,directed%20by%20the%20Attorney%20General.

You know, in case you weren't trolling.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 18, 2024, 07:02:06 AM »
You guys still have COVID?
I haven't heard of anyone self isolating or even testing for over a year. 

Tho if he dies that does mean the Dems need a new candidate and Trump will have to find out how to insult them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 17, 2024, 01:37:26 PM »
If you hire by ability and not ideology...

LMFAO!
Well, that explains why you're unemployed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 16, 2024, 08:45:44 PM »
Yeah, any text containing the words christian and values would more than likely be a problem with you, regardless of actual context.
Believe it or not, I follow most Christian values.  Just not the ones everyone seems to think is most important.  Which seems odd, to me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 16, 2024, 07:33:36 AM »
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-07-15-24/index.html

Trump wins.  His Judge has basically said all special appointments are unconstitutional and thus the case is dismissed, which breaks from every other judge whose had this. Also, she did this after over a year!  Why didn't she dismiss it sooner?  Because she's corrupt.


Mark my words: if Trump wins, he'll appointment her to SCOTUS.
Jack Smith had no standing, AT ALL.

Ok, so what was the correct, proper, standing person or group that should have been used?  The DoJ?  The President?  Mitch McConnel?
The correct proper way to appoint special counsel is for Congress to approve the appointment.

That is why Mueller never went anywhere and why Smith was going nowhere.

Truman Show shit.
But that wasn't the ruling. The ruling was that all special counsels were unconstitutional.  All of them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:58:08 PM »
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-07-15-24/index.html

Trump wins.  His Judge has basically said all special appointments are unconstitutional and thus the case is dismissed, which breaks from every other judge whose had this. Also, she did this after over a year!  Why didn't she dismiss it sooner?  Because she's corrupt.
Indeed.  Her ruling will certainly be appealed but that will not complete before the election so if Trump is elected then he will immediately pardon himself and then allow the appeal to reverse her decision so all the other folks found guilty via a special prosecutor will not be let out.  Trump cares about Trump and little else. Of course if Trump is elected there will be vastly more to worry about than the special prosecutor regulations.
Jesus, the amount of bullshit.

Presidents cannot pardon themselves. All persons must apply for pardon or commutation. Once application has been filed, that is actually admission of guilt. If Trump tried this, he would lose all support and impeachment would be be successful.

Get a fucking grip and start practicing the words found in your goddamn username.
Why would he need to pardon himself if he can just order the DoJ to drop charges?

But he's correct: it's unknown if they can.  Never been done before.  And as we know... Trump can do no wrong.  His impeachment would never go through.  Not unless democrats controlled both houses.  Nor would he lose support.  Why would he?  None of his supporters care if he's guilty of some made up, witch-hunt crime.  Hell, they don't even care that he pushed to make the covid vaccine that's part of the plan to wipe out humanity.  Never even mention it.  Because they are loyal.  Blind loyalty.  They'd kill for him.  Wouldn't you?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:50:35 PM »
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-07-15-24/index.html

Trump wins.  His Judge has basically said all special appointments are unconstitutional and thus the case is dismissed, which breaks from every other judge whose had this. Also, she did this after over a year!  Why didn't she dismiss it sooner?  Because she's corrupt.


Mark my words: if Trump wins, he'll appointment her to SCOTUS.
Jack Smith had no standing, AT ALL.

Ok, so what was the correct, proper, standing person or group that should have been used?  The DoJ?  The President?  Mitch McConnel? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:47:21 PM »
Months ago?

Dude was chosen eality on as campaign season began and he wasn't dead.

Regardless, I'm just salty that Trump has a real chance of winning and implement project 2025.
Please spell out what factual issues you have with Project 2025, or is it just another bot post.

Hiring all personelle based on political views is bad.  It puts lotalists in power of the lowest  and highest rungs of government.  See, let's say I'm working IT at the Whitehouse.  If I see something bad, like say... A backdoor connection from the VP's office to a server in china, I'm gonna report it.  Now, if I'm a loyalist, when I'm told not to worry about it... I won't.  Why would I?  Hail President!  We all love to look at the top leaders as to why stuff is allowed to happen, but in the end, those guys don't do the actual work.  They don't investigate people.  They don't check tax returns.  They don't do security background checks.  They don't manage firewalls. If you hire by ability and not ideology, you get a mix who will act as a check.  Like what staffers did during Trump's first term where they sometimes didn't do what he said.

I also take issue with making Christian values a cornerstone of America, given most of the founders were agnostic.

It would also put alot of power into the executive branch that is contradictory to traditional conservative values. 

It also stresses family and "grants each of us the liberty to do not what we want, but what we ought" which tells me that it wants to give freedom to people who share family, christian values and allow you the freedom to punish those who do not. 

The only people who want this are people like you.  People who look at the world and think "if only I had the freedom to force everyone to act like me."

Reading it is like reading The Handmaiden's Tale, but from the oppressor's viewpoint.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 15, 2024, 06:07:37 PM »
Months ago?

Dude was chosen eality on as campaign season began and he wasn't dead.

Regardless, I'm just salty that Trump has a real chance of winning and implement project 2025.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 15, 2024, 05:55:21 PM »
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-classified-documents-case-dismissed-07-15-24/index.html

Trump wins.  His Judge has basically said all special appointments are unconstitutional and thus the case is dismissed, which breaks from every other judge whose had this. Also, she did this after over a year!  Why didn't she dismiss it sooner?  Because she's corrupt.


Mark my words: if Trump wins, he'll appointment her to SCOTUS.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 14, 2024, 07:51:08 PM »
Here's how Biden can still be replaced.
  • He quits
  • He dies
  • The delegates break tradition and vote for someone else and SCOTUS allows it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2024, 08:38:44 AM »
Damn it, just a little better aim and we'd have had great news.

I dunno, I mean... What would his raving supporters do if their leader was murdered by the only one with motive(they think): Biden and liberals?
Lots and lots of violence. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2024, 07:13:47 AM »
Yeah, his own campaign said this is gonna make him win.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2024, 12:21:23 AM »
Trump fakes assassination attempt!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631849/Donald-Trump-shots-fired-Pennsylvania.html

Look at him!  That's not someone who just got shot at.  That's someone who has a blood pack on his ear.

What evidence do you have this event was faked?

I mean, you are all the fucking way over in Norway. Guess you feel safer making asshatted comments from 5000 miles away.
How many people do you know will be shot at then stop to do a victory fist bump?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2024, 12:20:44 AM »
Trump fakes assassination attempt!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631849/Donald-Trump-shots-fired-Pennsylvania.html

Look at him!  That's not someone who just got shot at.  That's someone who has a blood pack on his ear.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4770414-trump-rally-shooter-attendee-dead/

I am sure the dead attendee will be happy to learn that it was just a blood pack. Fucking hell, Dave......

1. This was made with only a video and no news of death.
2. Crisis actors.  Hey, if fucking action80 and Tom can do it, why not me?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 13, 2024, 10:38:25 PM »
Trump fakes assassination attempt!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631849/Donald-Trump-shots-fired-Pennsylvania.html

Look at him!  That's not someone who just got shot at.  That's someone who has a blood pack on his ear.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 13, 2024, 06:40:37 AM »
Apparently Biden does this alot and has for most of his life.    We just didn't notice it because no one cared until now.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 06, 2024, 08:19:51 PM »
Trump wants a new debate!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-challenges-biden-second-presidential-debate-theres-catch

But the catch is: no moderators.  No limits.  No rules.  Allowing Trump to use a debate method that's for gullible people.
"Free and fair," didn't help Brandon the first time...

And yet Trump wants to change it from what worked... Why do you think that is?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 06, 2024, 03:55:21 PM »
Trump wants a new debate!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-challenges-biden-second-presidential-debate-theres-catch

But the catch is: no moderators.  No limits.  No rules.  Allowing Trump to use a debate method that's for gullible people.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 02, 2024, 10:19:12 PM »
The dissent would disagree.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf (page 68)

I'm not going to go through the dissent line by line to see what I agree with and what I don't. However, it's obvious that doing anything drastic like declaring himself a dictator or assassinating a rival falls outside of the president's duties and would not be legally protected. Neither, for that matter, would hoarding classified documents or arranging a fraudulent scheme to stay in office after losing an election. There was already an obvious understanding that Trump was not being prosecuted for simply doing his job. This ruling simply invents a redundant legal controversy and creates a new hoop for the prosecution to jump through. It's a cowardly ruling that comes entirely down to their fear of actually having to make a definitive ruling on whether or not Trump can be prosecuted rather than any real constitutional concerns, and it's giving Trump exactly the delay he wanted, but I don't think it actually changes anything about what the president is or isn't allowed to do. In that respect, I partially agree with Action80, although it's interesting that he apparently interprets Trump and the Court wasting everyone's time to be a good thing.
Not neccessarily.  Trump's team has, because of this ruling, already filed a motion to overturn his hush money verdict.  The reason being that, up until this ruling (despite what Action says), everyone thought the President's actions were usable as evidence in a criminal trial.  But now, apparnetly, his tweets while president, can NOT be used as evidence of a crime.  Which was used in the hush money trial and thus could invalidate the verdic.

The issue we have is what is defining as a president's duty?  Aside from the costitution, there's no real line.  A vague line, but no firm one.  Like, the president is tasked with protecting the country from threats both foreign and domestic, right?  So what if the president feels his political rival is a threat to the nation?  Trump has said he'd be a dictator on Day 1.  If that's not a domestic threat to the repubic, I don't know what is.   Why would stopping such a threat be outside of his official duties as president?


As for the scheme to stay in office: Since he was president when he did most of that, any evidence of a crime is basically inadmissable in court.  That speech he had?  Inadmissable if you can reasonable claim its part of his official duty as president. (communicating with the people?) Challening the votes and stopping it could also be cosidered his official act to ensure a fair and balanced election.  And any evidence of a crime could easily be marked as acts of the president, which is literally what they ruled.  Like when he met with his temporary attorney general and told him to put pressure on certain people.  That's no longer usable evidence in court.  THAT, I think, is the most damaging. 

And now a judge has to figure out what is or isn't official acts and have that challenged and possibly to to SCOTUS for each and every single one.  Just the January 6th case could take years to go to trial.  And the docuemnts case... who knows.

But remember: He owns one of the two major parties.
He appointed 3 of the 9 justices.

Even if SCOTUS just kicked the can back down the line, they kicked it with a list of restrictions.

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