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Space hotel coming soon
« on: April 22, 2018, 08:15:47 AM »
So if anyone has a spare $9.5 you can spend 12 days inn the space hotel, (once its finished)

https://www.orionspan.com/

Once the worlds rich are able to pop to space as once they popped to the south of France and a plethora of independent photo's start to circulate showing the true shape of earth I think it will heed an interesting time for this site and the others like it. Either earth will be proved to be spherical by so many people that denial will be pointless or there will be a shock to the core of the scientific world and the flat earth will be the new shock discovery that will revolutionise our science.

Either way I think this company and their work are worth keeping an eye on!


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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2018, 08:52:17 AM »
A bargain, at $9.50 ...
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2018, 09:08:34 AM »
A bargain, at $9.50 ...

Oh yeah doh! I forgot the very significant M. Price should read 9.5 Million dollars! ;)
« Last Edit: April 22, 2018, 03:33:05 PM by Devils Advocate »

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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2018, 01:46:33 PM »
We've already had the start of space tourism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tourism#List_of_flown_space_tourists

Not sure what the FE response is to that. Are all those people lying too?
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 07:10:59 PM »
We've already had the start of space tourism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tourism#List_of_flown_space_tourists

Not sure what the FE response is to that. Are all those people lying too?

I like the clown that was up there for 12 days and took a bunch of pics which imo look like shot from a plane and then did a big book with all these pics. I can't find one of globe earth, just landscape shots. Pretty funny clown.

All fake news.....
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 07:29:16 PM »
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 07:33:57 PM »
I can't find one of globe earth, just landscape shots.

Look harder.

781 of them here;

https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/SearchPhotos/ShowQueryResults-CoolIris.pl?results=EarthDisc

These aren't the clowns that went for 12 days, nice try cgi and plane guy. Find them in his book he was curator of. I'll wait.....
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 07:37:20 PM »
These aren't the clowns that went for 12 days, nice try cgi and plane guy. Find them in his book he was curator of. I'll wait.....

I wasn't referring to him/them. I thought you meant you couldn't find any generally.

Enjoy browsing the 781 that I found for you, while you're taking him/them to task....
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2018, 04:30:42 PM »
I think you're talking about this guy:
https://www.amazon.com/Gaia-Laliberte-Guy-EDT/dp/2759405346/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1524498656&sr=8-1&keywords=gaia+laliberte

It really helps to actually name the person or link to the book in question.

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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 10:14:23 AM »
Once the worlds rich are able to pop to space as once they popped to the south of France and a plethora of independent photo's start to circulate showing the true shape of earth I think it will heed an interesting time for this site and the others like it.
The problem with that is that we've been presented with these beautiful promises for nearly a decade now. "Wow, look, this guy is doing stuff in space! As soon as he's done, wowie, that'll be great!" - followed by a few days of casual discussion and then... silence!

Will this time be different? Perhaps. But maybe we should wait for it to be different first.
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 10:36:00 AM »
Once the worlds rich are able to pop to space as once they popped to the south of France and a plethora of independent photo's start to circulate showing the true shape of earth I think it will heed an interesting time for this site and the others like it.
The problem with that is that we've been presented with these beautiful promises for nearly a decade now. "Wow, look, this guy is doing stuff in space! As soon as he's done, wowie, that'll be great!" - followed by a few days of casual discussion and then... silence!

Will this time be different? Perhaps. But maybe we should wait for it to be different first.

Please see reply #4 Pete

Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2018, 01:02:21 PM »
Once the worlds rich are able to pop to space as once they popped to the south of France and a plethora of independent photo's start to circulate showing the true shape of earth I think it will heed an interesting time for this site and the others like it.
The problem with that is that we've been presented with these beautiful promises for nearly a decade now. "Wow, look, this guy is doing stuff in space! As soon as he's done, wowie, that'll be great!" - followed by a few days of casual discussion and then... silence!

Will this time be different? Perhaps. But maybe we should wait for it to be different first.

What do you mean silence? Did you see the book? OK, I guess books don't make noise, so technically "silence", but then you have this non-silence:


What were you looking for?


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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 01:47:32 PM »
Once the worlds rich are able to pop to space as once they popped to the south of France and a plethora of independent photo's start to circulate showing the true shape of earth I think it will heed an interesting time for this site and the others like it.
The problem with that is that we've been presented with these beautiful promises for nearly a decade now. "Wow, look, this guy is doing stuff in space! As soon as he's done, wowie, that'll be great!" - followed by a few days of casual discussion and then... silence!

Will this time be different? Perhaps. But maybe we should wait for it to be different first.
When I were a lad there was talk about moon bases and such and it all sounded very exciting. Hasn't happened. Nor has flying cars.
But other areas of technology around IT - iPhones, the internet etc - are unrecognisable since I was young.
The fundamental problem, it seems, is that some problems are easier to solve than others.
Why aren't we all zipping around in air-planes at Mach 5? We had Concorde in the 60s and if anything we've got backwards, certainly in terms of speed.
But where air travel has got much better is comfort, in flight entertainment. Which links to the above - IT and technology has come on leaps and bounds.

My take on why this has happened is that progress in IT is not hindered by any physical laws - there will come a time when it may in terms of how tightly transistors can be packed, but right now if we can make things smaller then it all still works and makes things quicker. But Concorde was inefficient, basically because:
F = ma.
To generate a lot of 'a' you need a lot of 'F'. And we don't have a cheap, efficient way of doing this. Rockets powerful enough to launch stuff into orbit take a LOT of fuel and fuel is very heavy, which burns as they use it but only lasts a certain time. The reason "it's not rocket science" is a phrase is that rocket science is complicated. I understand it at a very high level - about as high as I outlined.
Point being there are physical laws which make it very expensive to go into space which is why space tourism has only been restricted, so far, to a handful of multi-millionaires. But the fact that it has happened should be proof enough that the earth is round, unless they're all "in on it" too, or have been fooled in some way.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2018, 02:10:19 PM »
When I were a lad there was talk about moon bases and such and it all sounded very exciting. Hasn't happened. Nor has flying cars. [...]
Don't get me wrong - I understand why this would happen in the Round Earth scenario. What I'm saying is that it's pointless to get excited about space-hotels or Elon Musk's BFR until it actually happens - because it is very likely that it won't actually happen. I'm especially sceptical of schemes that ask you to put forward $80,000 three years in advance - it reminds me of 419 scams just a tad too much.
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Re: Space hotel coming soon
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 02:19:33 PM »
I actually agree it's unlikely to happen, certainly within the price range of "normal" people.
But I've outlined why it's unlikely, unless a completely different way of propelling things is invented which is significantly more efficient than the ways we have right now.
Because physics, innit?
Not because it's COMPLETELY impossible and "they" are trying to cover anything up.
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"