Offline cap10

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Scientific proof??
« on: February 24, 2018, 05:12:56 AM »
Hey,

new here, but i'm interested in the proposition that all evidence explaining the Earth's shape and the general "laws" of the universe are wrong.  The only reason I believed those laws is because I can do my own experiments to confirm them.  I believe them because I can test them.  For instance, I can look up with a nice telescope and see the stars rotating predictably.  I can go anywhere on vacation, stick a vertical pole in the ground, and it will have moved about 15 degrees since the last hour.

Is there any evidence supporting the Flat Earth?  I'm not talking about "debunking" of opposing facts.  Is there any scientifically measurable, scientifically corresponding evidence that the earth is flat?

I'm not looking for a "Why do you think...", nor a "Why haven't...", nor any other response based on why the scientific community is false.

I'm looking for a reason that supports the contention of the Earth being flat.  For instance: The earth is flat because (insert video of the end of the earth/ a measurement of the circumference or diameter/ a video of a boat going 50 miles out and someone seeing it from shore with a recording, etc).

I'm open minded, but people saying that the "world" has brainwashed be or that everything was faked, is not going to convince me.  I mean math is on the side of the round earth guys.  Math actually confirms their contentions - do the flat earth members have similar mathematical formulas that can be tested?

Thanks for trying to explain this!!

-CAP

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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2018, 05:52:21 AM »
What about the satellites you can see without any aids?  I used to have a link to some satellite where it said where to look and when and then you could go outside and look in that direction and see the satellite.

Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 08:29:34 PM »
What about the satellites you can see without any aids?  I used to have a link to some satellite where it said where to look and when and then you could go outside and look in that direction and see the satellite.

post the link

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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 11:43:08 PM »
Hey,

new here, but i'm interested in the proposition that all evidence explaining the Earth's shape and the general "laws" of the universe are wrong.  The only reason I believed those laws is because I can do my own experiments to confirm them.  I believe them because I can test them.  For instance, I can look up with a nice telescope and see the stars rotating predictably.  I can go anywhere on vacation, stick a vertical pole in the ground, and it will have moved about 15 degrees since the last hour.

Is there any evidence supporting the Flat Earth?  I'm not talking about "debunking" of opposing facts.  Is there any scientifically measurable, scientifically corresponding evidence that the earth is flat?

I'm not looking for a "Why do you think...", nor a "Why haven't...", nor any other response based on why the scientific community is false.

I'm looking for a reason that supports the contention of the Earth being flat.  For instance: The earth is flat because (insert video of the end of the earth/ a measurement of the circumference or diameter/ a video of a boat going 50 miles out and someone seeing it from shore with a recording, etc).

I'm open minded, but people saying that the "world" has brainwashed be or that everything was faked, is not going to convince me.  I mean math is on the side of the round earth guys.  Math actually confirms their contentions - do the flat earth members have similar mathematical formulas that can be tested?

Thanks for trying to explain this!!

-CAP

When they say "do the research", they emphatically don't mean with telescopes and measuring angles and that kind of thing. They mean Youtube and Google.

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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2018, 02:39:51 AM »
What about the satellites you can see without any aids?  I used to have a link to some satellite where it said where to look and when and then you could go outside and look in that direction and see the satellite.

post the link

Because I stated I used to have a link (and the fact that the guy that told me about it is dead) I cannot post the link.  However, I googled "satellite tracking" and found this link which shows some times that certain satellites will be visible for you.  I did not check the veracity of this website but the one I used to have worked okay.
 And whenever I happen to watch the famous meteor showers I am always amazed at how many satellites are drifting by at any time.  Not sure why you did not believe that they know when satellites will be orbiting overhead for given locations, but I hope this satisfies the request.  As noted I cannot post the link I used to have.
http://spaceweather.com/flybys/

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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 08:57:06 AM »
What about the satellites you can see without any aids?  I used to have a link to some satellite where it said where to look and when and then you could go outside and look in that direction and see the satellite.

post the link

https://in-the-sky.org/

The section detailing "Bright Satellite Passes" for your area - you have to input the observing location, so I won't provide a direct link to it. From the Main Page above, go Spacecraft, and select "Find Bright Satellite Passes". Input location, and it will populate a personalised list for you
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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2018, 10:22:39 PM »
What about the satellites you can see without any aids?  I used to have a link to some satellite where it said where to look and when and then you could go outside and look in that direction and see the satellite.

post the link


For a few bucks, you can get an app called Star Walk on iPad that points to most satellites.  The most obvious ones to look at is the ISS and the polar orbital ones.   Cases closed.


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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2018, 07:28:33 PM »

Flat Earth ... More Curve than you can Handle

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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2018, 07:34:40 PM »
Stitched together high altitude balloon footage ..


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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 07:45:09 PM »

Flat Earth ... More Curve than you can Handle


There's something wonderful about a flat Earth video that starts off with showing satellite footage of an area to show what it should look like. Especially one that then repeatedly shows evidence the Earth is round over and over afterwards. My favorite bit here is the one where the video creator convinces himself that Washington state is the size of Europe because he the rest of the US and Canada is hidden below the horizon, or when he convinces himself stars and satellites don't exist because he can't see them during the daytime.

Also pretty convenient he used a fisheye lens to explain away any curve, eh?
"It's easier to fool people that to convince them that they have been fooled ;^)" — Marcus Aurelius, 180 A.D.

Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2019, 07:13:02 PM »
Hi there,

I'm browsing through this forum. The thing which baffles me is that, while people here are really convinced they are right (and they are allowed to do so), nobody takes the time to give you any of the evidence you ask for, apart from some funny videos or memes. I would really appreciate them answering the question, not with old movies or experiments from 100 years ago, but with actual facts. I'm curious. I want to learn.




Hey,

new here, but i'm interested in the proposition that all evidence explaining the Earth's shape and the general "laws" of the universe are wrong.
(...)
Is there any evidence supporting the Flat Earth?  I'm not talking about "debunking" of opposing facts.  Is there any scientifically measurable, scientifically corresponding evidence that the earth is flat?(...)

Thanks for trying to explain this!!

-CAP
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Johannes

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Re: Scientific proof??
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2019, 07:51:03 PM »
With so many online applications and software helping to locate the next visible satellite at evening time on your exact latitude/longitude, is there anyone in this world that never saw a cruising satellite reflecting solar light, yet???  Start looking up.