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« on: February 23, 2018, 04:14:59 AM »
Flying around looking for sats, I could find none, no one can. They are a hoax. Gps is simply ground based. Enjoy, and hit this guys videos and learn.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 04:35:50 AM »
You can track them here
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=25861
pick which one click on it and watch it travel over the area you live in on a clear night and see if they match up.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 10:51:41 AM »
planewavemedia have tracking videos.  In one screen shot, you can see the output from the telescope (the satellite itself, with the starfields moving behind it), the telescope itself in motion as it tracks the satellite, a stellar map showing where the telescope is pointing, and a data window, showing the raw data relating to the track

This is just their most recent tracking video - there's around half a dozen more at their channel




Asserting that GPS is "ground-based" is merely a diversion tactic, for most of the sats up there are not GPS satellites

Domestic Satellite TV/Radio
Fleet Tracking
Weather Monitoring/Mapping
General Mapping
General Communications
News Gathering
Event Relay & Broadcast
Military Apps
etc
etc



The Space Geodesy Facility in the UK specialises in bouncing lasers off the passing satellites to track them. They are part of the wider International Laser Ranging Service. I'll leave you to look up the other member organisations

http://sgf.rgo.ac.uk/


I've watched the ISS go by myself. I have, on more than one occasion, seen it twice in one evening, separated by around 90 mins. Do I need to tell you why that proves it to be a satellite, and not a balloon/aircraft/hologram?

This guy uses auto tracking software to video the ISS


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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 12:49:18 AM »
Saw the ISS a few nights ago too. Saw it once through a friends' telescope. It wasn't any balloon or plane or whatever else FEs claim.
This end should point toward the ground if you want to go to space. If it starts pointing toward space you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2018, 03:25:00 AM »
as Elon Musk said "(Feb. 6). "You can tell it's real because it looks so fake, honestly."

Were all laughing in your faces for believing all the nonsense of space. There's a dome, no one is going anywhere.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 12:55:40 PM »
Were all laughing in your faces for believing all the nonsense of space. There's a dome, no one is going anywhere.

I genuinely can't tell if you missed out the sarcasm emoji or not.

Are you being serious?
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2018, 10:01:54 PM »
I've seen a couple satellites zooming overhead with my naked eye before. If those weren't satellites, then they must have been alien space-ships!  :P

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 01:08:37 AM »
as Elon Musk said "(Feb. 6). "You can tell it's real because it looks so fake, honestly."

Were all laughing in your faces for believing all the nonsense of space. There's a dome, no one is going anywhere.

And you know they're laughing in our faces... how?

It's funny how you didn't include the rest of that quote.

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We’d have way better CGI if it was fake.

And you know, the colors all kind of look weird in space, there’s no atmospheric occlusion – everything looks too crisp.
This end should point toward the ground if you want to go to space. If it starts pointing toward space you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 02:56:35 AM »
“Its not a flat Earth vs globe matter, its exposure of the fraud and mockery. This affects us all.”

“For all of you, who watched the Falcon Heavy. Saw a car go to space, saw NO satellites, NO ISS, NO space debris, NO oblate spheroid, NO spinning Earth, NO escape velocity, NO speeds of 20kmph, NO stars, just stationary blackness.”

“People who believe that the Earth is a globe because ‘they saw a car in space on the Internet’ must be the new incarnation of ‘It's true, I saw it on TV!’

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/915948/spacex-flat-earth-falcon-heavy-launch-fake-elon-musk

A book over 2000 years old explains the flat earth and a dome. We or you don't listen and eat apples.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 05:13:58 AM »
How do meteors get past the Dome? What keeps it clean of space debris?  ???

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 11:08:53 AM »
“...saw NO satellites, NO ISS,

Out of camera range.

NO space debris,

Well, we did, except Team Hoax insist it was 'bubbles' ....

NO oblate spheroid

Most folks are watching on PCs or smaller devices; too small to see the oblatemness

NO spinning Earth

Why would you, when the craft is rotating and orbiting far faster?

“People who believe that the Earth is a globe because ‘they saw a car in space on the Internet’ must be the new incarnation of ‘It's true, I saw it on TV!’

... but there's a whole tranche of folk who not only saw it on TV and webcasts, they tracked it with their telescopes and found it exactly where it should have been. 

SpaceX have fourteen launches lined up for the remainder of this year. Since the Tesla, they've already done another standard launch from Vandenberg. These fourteen include TWO MORE Falcon Heavy launches, wherein they will be launching commercial payloads for paying customers.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2018, 12:38:53 AM »
“Its not a flat Earth vs globe matter, its exposure of the fraud and mockery. This affects us all.”

And yet there is no mockery or fraud. In a post on a different thread I showed that the footage matched the available data used by the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, and other cloud cover data sources.

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NO satellites, NO ISS

Too small to be seen, and the Earth and car were too bright.

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NO space debris

Yes we did. It was ice particles coming from the car after the moisture in it turned into a gas, then sublimated into ice.

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NO oblate spheroid

The difference between the diameter at the equator (12,756.27 km) and that at the poles (12,713.56 km) is 42.77 km, or just .3%. Too small to be detected by laptop screens, even HD TV screens. You'd need a really good photo of Earth, and then measure it using something like photoshop.

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NO spinning Earth

I showed in my previous post, as mentioned above, that there was spinning. Earth spins once every 24 hours. It may be moving at 1000mph, but it's all about relativity. It's just spinning too slowly to be seen normally. Besides, the car was moving much faster than the Earth was rotating, so it would be even harder to see.

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NO escape velocity, NO speeds of 20kmph

What does this mean?

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NO stars, just stationary blackness

Again, the Earth and car are far too bright to allow the camera to expose the stars, and still expose the former objects.

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“People who believe that the Earth is a globe because ‘they saw a car in space on the Internet’ must be the new incarnation of ‘It's true, I saw it on TV!

And people who believe the Earth is flat because 'they saw a video on youtube' are just the same.

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A book over 2000 years old explains the flat earth and a dome. We or you don't listen and eat apples.

And that book is BS. Besides, we've had people know it was round for the same amount of time.
This end should point toward the ground if you want to go to space. If it starts pointing toward space you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today.

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2018, 04:45:54 AM »
ok so tell me where is the dome... why is it that none of you have any proof of the dome or a proper map of the flat earth but yet we want others to believe us.. neither do we even have a picture of the flat earth..

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2018, 10:52:23 AM »
as Elon Musk said "(Feb. 6). "You can tell it's real because it looks so fake, honestly."

Were all laughing in your faces for believing all the nonsense of space. There's a dome, no one is going anywhere.
Please explain how satellite broadcasting and GPS works according to you, with evidence.

Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 11:03:12 AM »
as Elon Musk said "(Feb. 6). "You can tell it's real because it looks so fake, honestly."

Were all laughing in your faces for believing all the nonsense of space. There's a dome, no one is going anywhere.
Please explain how satellite broadcasting and GPS works according to you, with evidence.
I was in Sri Lanka last week with work (it really is lovely there by the way). I noticed that the satellite dishes there noticeably point upwards in a way they don't really in England.
Which is what you'd expect if the satellites are geostationary ones above the equator, which they are according to people who know what they are talking about.
I too would like to hear how the FE community suppose this works.
If you are making your claim without evidence then we can discard it without evidence.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 09:59:49 PM »
If there's a dome, how does heat escape the earth? It would trap the heat that's generated by the (supposedly 50 mile wide, 3000 mile high) sun. Is there an air-conditioning or ventilation system built into the dome? Or maybe the stars and moon zap us with ice rays?

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2018, 03:35:53 AM »
If there's a dome, how does heat escape the earth? It would trap the heat that's generated by the (supposedly 50 mile wide, 3000 mile high) sun. Is there an air-conditioning or ventilation system built into the dome? Or maybe the stars and moon zap us with ice rays?

The good preacher will explain the dome to you.

http://www.peterwallace.org/old/essays/flatearth.htm
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2018, 08:41:52 AM »
I never understand why some people think that the Bible should be read or understood like a science book.
There are deeper truths than this.

GPS works. Satellite TV works. The ISS can be seen from earth. There really is nothing else to discuss here.
If you are making your claim without evidence then we can discard it without evidence.

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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2018, 09:58:32 AM »
I never understand why some people think that the Bible should be read or understood like a science book.
There are deeper truths than this.

GPS works. Satellite TV works. The ISS can be seen from earth. There really is nothing else to discuss here.

And of course you believe there is a Tesla roadster now floating around as space junk.

I've never understood why so many people don't understand what creates a rainbow.

There is no deeper truth than our creator.
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Re: satellite hoax
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2018, 10:55:02 AM »
And of course you believe there is a Tesla roadster now floating around as space junk

What reason is there to disbelieve it?

SpaceX have launched some 40 or so satellites for a wide variety of paying customers already. Just a few days after the Falcon Heavy launch, they sent another one up. They have 14 launches planned for 2018, which will include two more Falcon Heavy missions, just like the one that launched the car.

Unless you believe that all their paying customers; the corporations whose names are on the satellites, along with their subcontractors, suppliers, and operators, their financial backers and insurers; are all "in on the hoax, too" ......
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