[Ratboy]

I am now growing tired of this site as it seems some discussion goes on in certain areas and then abruptly end at certain sticky points. I am wondering if any flat earther would start with an open mind and look at stuff and see what they think is going on.  I think this is called a Zetetic approach.  I am as big a skeptic as they come.
So has any flat earther spent time near the equator?  Watched the sun come up due east and set due west?  Commercial flights are not that expensive compared to living in a world where you are deceived by any conspiracies about anything.
Look at how the moon always looks the same, whether near the horizon or straight overhead.  If it is moving towards and away from you, should it not look different, just like a racecar would (headlights, then taillights)? Same with the sun.
Then go somewhere south.  Why does it look like the earth circles the south pole when you are south?  And then, what is south?  Do lines of latitude really get wider the farther south you go?  Is everyone living south of the equator mistaken about how far they are from other places?  Are all airlines faking flight times with none of the economy airlines giving in and providing faster flights rather than going broke?
Watch the sun, moon and planets, and the stars of the zodiac.  Just watch them.  How can they all follow the same basic path but be directly overhead certain places on a daily, monthly or yearly pattern? 
Why are sunsets and sunrises of different length at different latitudes?  And why do the areas at a certain southern latitude mirror the northern equivalent?
If we believe due to what we see, why believe in ice walls, universal acceleration, air that stops in regions of low pressure, government agents and scientists that would cost a lot to employ for the sake of continuing a conspiracy supposedly motivated by money?
Why believe in bending light and doubt GPS?
Why believe that farmers are ignorant about the land they own?  Why would someone work a field and get a certain yield per acre and carefully calculate all this for the sake of trying not to go broke and yet miss that the land they own is different than what their deed says?
Why not take a Zetetic approach?

[Pete Svarrior]

So has any flat earther spent time near the equator?  Watched the sun come up due east and set due west?

How would that help? The Sun would be rising due East and setting due West regardless of the model applied.

[AATW]

If the sun is above the plane of a flat earth it wouldn't be rising or setting at all.

As I've shown elsewhere, long shadows at sunrise and sunset prove the sun is physically close to the horizon.

[Ratboy]

So has any flat earther spent time near the equator?  Watched the sun come up due east and set due west?

How would that help? The Sun would be rising due East and setting due West regardless of the model applied.

I do not understand how the Sun would look different on a Flat Earth model depending on where you were.  Where I am, in the summer especially, you can see in the early morning that the sky is getting brighter in the North East and then you can see the Sun at sunrise.  Throughout the day, the Sun travels around so that to watch it you are continually having to turn clockwise when viewed from above.  At noon you are facing directly South.  At 18:00 you see the Sun directly west, but if you are on the 2nd hole, you still have time to finish the front 9 at golf and if there is no one in front of you, you might be able to get a whole 18 holes in, since the Sun is no where near setting.  When you finish up, the Sun goes away in the North West and fades away and it slowly gets dark.  If a person had a good imagination, you could think that the Sun really is circling the north pole.  When you are far enough north, you can golf around the clock like they do in Yellowknife.  To watch the Sun then for an entire day, you have to turn a complete circle, just like as if the sun is circling the north pole, for sure.
So I am saying that if you believe in a Flat Earth model, why should the Sun behave any different than that?  It should look like it is coming from somewhere in the North East and leave in the North West.  Just look at the Flat Earth model to see that the sun is supposed to be traveling in a circle around the north pole.  It should not matter where you are, it should look like that, just like it did for Rowbotham. 
That is why it matters.  If the sun is circling the north pole, it should look like it is regardless of if you are in England or on the equator.  Why should it look different depending on where you are?  Can you really watch the sun rise and set at different latitudes and deny what you see with your own eyes and still say you are following Zetetic principles?  You can cling to a Flat Earth belief, but to watch the sun and moon and planets and stars and still cling to that belief, you are not starting from a skeptical point and basing beliefs on what you see.
That is why it matters.