[TropeADope]

Has anyone tackled nuclear fusion on here? Seems like gravity would be a key component in how the sun works using fusion in creating heavier elements.
If gravity isn't real, how does the sun work? Celestial/aetherial energy or something?

[juner]

Yes, it has been talked about. I would suggest trying the search function once in a while.

[mtnman]

Yes, it has been talked about. I would suggest trying the search function once in a while.

I typed "fusion" in the search box and it returned only this thread. Were the earlier discussions in some other forum outside the scope of the current search functionality?

[juner]

Yes, it has been talked about. I would suggest trying the search function once in a while.

I typed "fusion" in the search box and it returned only this thread. Were the earlier discussions in some other forum outside the scope of the current search functionality?

I'd suggest trying a little harder because I can find quite a few more posts where the word fusion comes up.

[TropeADope]

Yes, it has been talked about. I would suggest trying the search function once in a while.

I typed "fusion" in the search box and it returned only this thread. Were the earlier discussions in some other forum outside the scope of the current search functionality?

I'd suggest trying a little harder because I can find quite a few more posts where the word fusion comes up.

I also searched extensively for it in the forums before making this. Perhaps our search function is based on RE internet systems that don't apply here. Seriously though, since we're here and not just me, but another has had the trouble finding these threads, can you pop a link in so that mtnman and myself can become more educated?

[juner]

I also searched extensively for it in the forums before making this. Perhaps our search function is based on RE internet systems that don't apply here. Seriously though, since we're here and not just me, but another has had the trouble finding these threads, can you pop a link in so that mtnman and myself can become more educated?

Worst case just search the word fusion and manually filter through the posts that include other words containing fusion, such as diffusion, or what you appear to be experiencing now, confusion...

[TropeADope]

I also searched extensively for it in the forums before making this. Perhaps our search function is based on RE internet systems that don't apply here. Seriously though, since we're here and not just me, but another has had the trouble finding these threads, can you pop a link in so that mtnman and myself can become more educated?

Worst case just search the word fusion and manually filter through the posts that include other words containing fusion, such as diffusion, or what you appear to be experiencing now, confusion...

Literally nothing is returned when I type fusion. I'm not saying this isn't a case of me not being able to computer very well but a search function seems simple enough. Mtnman said the same thing though, nothing was returned. But seriously, could you throw me a *no homo* bone here? I am really interested in how FET overcomes this. Gimme a link if you would be so kind.

Aha! Its the mobile version of the site. Our power was out so I was using my phone. Just got back onto my PC and presto. Mtnman, same true for you?

[mtnman]

I'm on a Windows laptop using Chrome browser. Tried again, same results. Now that he mentions it, I'm surprised it didn't match any partial words, like confusion. I didn't do anything to force a whole word type search, just typed "fusion" in the search box and hit enter.

I'll attach a screenshot.

[TropeADope]

I'm on a Windows laptop using Chrome browser. Tried again, same results. Now that he mentions it, I'm surprised it didn't match any partial words, like confusion. I didn't do anything to force a whole word type search, just typed "fusion" in the search box and hit enter.

I'll attach a screenshot.

What page we're you on? It's like searching a directory. I searched while on the main forum page and found it.

[mtnman]

Apologies. I was using the search (magnifying glass) icon at the top of the page. I was still on this thread. Navigating up and doing the same thing gives expanded results.

I didn't realize that search function only looked down from your current tree level. Good to know.

Thanks

[TomInAustin]

Apologies. I was using the search (magnifying glass) icon at the top of the page. I was still on this thread. Navigating up and doing the same thing gives expanded results.

I didn't realize that search function only looked down from your current tree level. Good to know.

Thanks

Don't feel foolish, for god's sake there are people here that think the world is flat.

[mtnman]

Don't feel foolish, for god's sake there are people here that think the world is flat.

LOL. I think from a basic user interface perspective having the search icon at the top of the page, above the indicators of current level made me think it was a global search. Just a minor nitpick, but glad to have you're help figuring it out.

Generally I think the forum software works pretty well and I was impressed with the web based editing options. I do wish it had a like button. or a thumbs up/down. Would be interesting to have a search for the most liked posts.

But back to your fusion subject, I think it will cause them some issues. Not trying to start a discussion/debate here in case it was discussed elsewhere, but... They way FE tries to make the sun work is to say it's close and small because you have to have some method of making geometry work. But a small sun wouldn't have the mass to create the pressure required for helium fusion.

[TropeADope]

Don't feel foolish, for god's sake there are people here that think the world is flat.

LOL. I think from a basic user interface perspective having the search icon at the top of the page, above the indicators of current level made me think it was a global search. Just a minor nitpick, but glad to have you're help figuring it out.

Generally I think the forum software works pretty well and I was impressed with the web based editing options. I do wish it had a like button. or a thumbs up/down. Would be interesting to have a search for the most liked posts.

But back to your fusion subject, I think it will cause them some issues. Not trying to start a discussion/debate here in case it was discussed elsewhere, but... They way FE tries to make the sun work is to say it's close and small because you have to have some method of making geometry work. But a small sun wouldn't have the mass to create the pressure required for helium fusion.

Hydrogen fusion. The debate was like the 4th one down or so in the results. It got crazy, like bad. Fusion wasn't real, aether powers the sun, and a lot of IDKs. Also wasn't long enough ago to warrant another discussion as it would have the results.

[mtnman]

Another excellent correction, yes hydrogen. We have a long wait for the helium fusion to start. But should be quite a sight!

[Curious Squirrel]

Don't feel foolish, for god's sake there are people here that think the world is flat.

LOL. I think from a basic user interface perspective having the search icon at the top of the page, above the indicators of current level made me think it was a global search. Just a minor nitpick, but glad to have you're help figuring it out.

Generally I think the forum software works pretty well and I was impressed with the web based editing options. I do wish it had a like button. or a thumbs up/down. Would be interesting to have a search for the most liked posts.

But back to your fusion subject, I think it will cause them some issues. Not trying to start a discussion/debate here in case it was discussed elsewhere, but... They way FE tries to make the sun work is to say it's close and small because you have to have some method of making geometry work. But a small sun wouldn't have the mass to create the pressure required for helium fusion.

Hydrogen fusion. The debate was like the 4th one down or so in the results. It got crazy, like bad. Fusion wasn't real, aether powers the sun, and a lot of IDKs. Also wasn't long enough ago to warrant another discussion as it would have the results.

Yeah, recalling this now. Similar on the other forum recently. Basically FE stance boiled down to "fusion can't be proven to exist via experimentation on Earth, so you have no actual idea how the sun works and nether do we obviously." Not a good point to work with RE info from.

[GiantTurtle]

We have produced fusion reactions though. Nuclear bombs are partly or mostly fusion and it has been done in labs.
We have not produced Sustained fusion reactions.

[mtnman]

We have produced fusion reactions though. Nuclear bombs are partly or mostly fusion and it has been done in labs.
We have not produced Sustained fusion reactions.

As I recall reading, hydrogen bombs use uranium fission to create the pressure to start hydrogen fusion. To have it sustained would require high heat and pressure which is possible in a star the size of the sun, doubt it would be possible if the sun was this little thing 3,000 miles away. I think I saw a FE reference that said it was about 30 miles in diameter.

[TropeADope]

We have produced fusion reactions though. Nuclear bombs are partly or mostly fusion and it has been done in labs.
We have not produced Sustained fusion reactions.

As I recall reading, hydrogen bombs use uranium fission to create the pressure to start hydrogen fusion. To have it sustained would require high heat and pressure which is possible in a star the size of the sun, doubt it would be possible if the sun was this little thing 3,000 miles away. I think I saw a FE reference that said it was about 30 miles in diameter.

Right. They basically said that we can't do sustained fusion in the same way as the sun (via gravity) and even if we could it wouldn't prove that the sun works this way. The thread went into spectral analysis with we know what the sun is made of, the elements emitting energy and how much, the presence of heavier elements that can only be created in a star that starts as almost all hydrogen and helium through several subsequent stages of fusion. It ended similarly to all the threads on airline flights.
Suprisingly, nobody on the FE side used the atmosphere's absorbtion and no valid observations made outside the atmosphere (since everything space is fake) as the reason for any spectral test to be invalid.