[devils advocate]

Since when does truth have an expiration date?

Errr all the time!

1) it is true that now is Wednesday evening, 8th Nov 2017-in a few short hours that will not be true.

2) the fastest internet connection is.........

3) the oldest person alive today is....

Truth is based on current circumstances. Rowbotham was a fraud in his day and his conman scheme is no more true today. Modern evidence shows the weaknesses of his conclusions, but sure ignore all that is new and revel in the past.....on an internet forum.......

[Tom Bishop]

Since when does truth have an expiration date?

Errr all the time!

1) it is true that now is Wednesday evening, 8th Nov 2017-in a few short hours that will not be true.

2) the fastest internet connection is.........

3) the oldest person alive today is....

Truth is based on current circumstances. Rowbotham was a fraud in his day and his conman scheme is no more true today. Modern evidence shows the weaknesses of his conclusions, but sure ignore all that is new and revel in the past.....on an internet forum.......

How was Rowbotham a conman?

[StinkyOne]

Since when does truth have an expiration date?

Errr all the time!

1) it is true that now is Wednesday evening, 8th Nov 2017-in a few short hours that will not be true.

2) the fastest internet connection is.........

3) the oldest person alive today is....

Truth is based on current circumstances. Rowbotham was a fraud in his day and his conman scheme is no more true today. Modern evidence shows the weaknesses of his conclusions, but sure ignore all that is new and revel in the past.....on an internet forum.......

How was Rowbotham a conman?

The obvious one is he conned some people into thinking the Earth was flat. I'm assuming he didn't give his book away for free.

Then there is this little con job:
In 1861, Rowbotham married for a second time (to the 16-year-old daughter of his laundress) and settled in London, producing 14 children, of whom four survived. He was also alleged to be using the name "Dr. Samuel Birley", living in a beautiful 12-roomed house, selling the secrets for prolonging human life and curing every disease imaginable.[4] Augustus De Morgan refers to him as S. Goulden.[1] He patented a number of inventions, including a "life-preserving cylindrical railway carriage". Birley was his middle name. Maybe it's just a coincidence.

[Curious Squirrel]

What is your evidence that has anything to do with a theodolite? You have one statement written by someone with a bias, claiming the theodolite doesn't do the exact job it was made to do, and continues to do to this day. Where is your experimental evidence that your statement about the theodolite is correct?

The experimental evidence on that subject is there in Earth Not a Globe.

Please provide evidence of an experiment that has been carried out in the last 5 years to prove a theodolite is inaccurate.

Please provide evidence conducted in the last 5 seconds that it is not.

Since when does truth have an expiration date?

Why are you so certain that something written over 100 years ago is true?

You have said this before but we learn more as time goes on, you have been given details of a theodolite that is accurate to 2 seconds.  That proves the accuracy available today.

Last I checked Darwin's Origin of the Species and Einstein's work is over 100 years old. How about attacking the content rather than the time the study was written?

Sure! His entire claim rests on the supposition that the human eye unaided has greater visual acuity than an instrument developed to increase the acuity of the eye. He gives no information on the claimed difference between the theodolites, he tested it upon one circumstance, and his conclusion of the experiment about the post viewed at length is erroneous. He assumes the distance to be flat rather than level when drawing it. In all, his experiments upon it have no documentation, and are poorly executed and barely documented, with a clear bias. In summary, they prove nothing and should be thrown out. So unless you have something better documented you have nothing to stand on in your attempt to claim theodolites are inaccurate.

[ScaryGary]

Since when does truth have an expiration date?

Errr all the time!

1) it is true that now is Wednesday evening, 8th Nov 2017-in a few short hours that will not be true.

2) the fastest internet connection is.........

3) the oldest person alive today is....

Truth is based on current circumstances. Rowbotham was a fraud in his day and his conman scheme is no more true today. Modern evidence shows the weaknesses of his conclusions, but sure ignore all that is new and revel in the past.....on an internet forum.......

Just another helpless programmed sheep.  Learn to think for yourself sometime. 

[juner]

Just another helpless programmed sheep.  Learn to think for yourself sometime.

Lay off personal attacks and posts that don't contribute. Warned.

[mtnman]

A theodolite app is tested for accuracy and is found to be inaccurate.

If you are offering this web page as reference, I assume you are prepared to accept all their conclusions. Is that correct?

I believe I sent you there to look at their investigation of a theodolite phone app:

On the topic of those theodolite apps read this metabunk thread.

I have reviewed the page you recommended Tom. The findings indicate that the theodolite app doesn't give very precise measurements. It lists errors up to 0.6 degrees. So probably not a great idea to use the app to make a bridge or something. I think it's still useful in looking at this "horizon rises to eye level" subject.

But what I find even more interesting and obviously ironic, is that as part of your attempt to preempt any claim of results from the app that might conflict with the "horizon rises to eye level" belief, you linked me to a page debunking the belief that the "horizon rises to eye level". It includes a video documenting a test with an actual theodolite that measures the angle to the horizon and to tall buildings in Chicago which both fit with the round Earth and not with his calculations for a flat Earth. Very interesting viewing. Thanks for sharing.

[ScaryGary]

Just another helpless programmed sheep.  Learn to think for yourself sometime.

Lay off personal attacks and posts that don't contribute. Warned.

Apologies