[PuttPutt4x]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

[devils advocate]

While the Sun rotates around the earth

I think this might be part of the problem. The earth rotates around the sun

[PuttPutt4x]

While the Sun rotates around the earth

I think this might be part of the problem. The earth rotates around the sun

 I am sorry, I was thinking of the flat Earth model. However, I was referring to the moon moving around the Earth, clearly,the rest of the sentence states it,! Now that we have that straight I'd love to hear your answer on how one moving object can maintain a constant speed around another object which is in motion!

[StinkyOne]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

Because their speed through space is the same. If you are driving in a car and you draw a circle in the air with your finger, do you have to apply more effort or change your speed depending where you are in the circle? As long as the car is traveling at a steady speed, you don't need to make any adjustments to the effort applied.

[PuttPutt4x]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

Because their speed through space is the same. If you are driving in a car and you draw a circle in the air with your finger, do you have to apply more effort or change your speed depending where you are in the circle? As long as the car is traveling at a steady speed, you don't need to make any adjustments to the effort applied.

 You would have to actually show an experiment to prove your point because by drawing a circle around a moving object, you are leaving out the detail that something is then moving around that circle, and that circle has a specific place in time being the "car" is moving forward. If you draw a circle around a moving car the car will eventually run into it.

[devils advocate]

The moon is in orbit around the earth and so you could consider it to be "connected" to the earth, as far as this concept goes. It moves with the earth in the same direction the earth is heading whilst also spinning an orbit around it.

[Curious Squirrel]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

Because their speed through space is the same. If you are driving in a car and you draw a circle in the air with your finger, do you have to apply more effort or change your speed depending where you are in the circle? As long as the car is traveling at a steady speed, you don't need to make any adjustments to the effort applied.

 You would have to actually show an experiment to prove your point because by drawing a circle around a moving object, you are leaving out the detail that something is then moving around that circle, and that circle has a specific place in time being the "car" is moving forward. If you draw a circle around a moving car the car will eventually run into it.

The moon only moves in a circle when spoken about in relation to the Earth (actually an ellipse, but we'll stick with circle for now). If you were to watch the Earth/moon pair from an outside perspective (like say from the sun) you would see the moon inscribing more of a helical shape around the Earth. Just like what you would get if you were to twirl your finger in a circle while inside of a moving vehicle. It still looks like a circle from your perspective (Earth) but it doesn't look like much of one to anyone outside of the vehicle. The back of the care will also never run into your circle tracing finger because it's moving at the same pace. Just like the Earth/Moon duo.

[PuttPutt4x]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

Because their speed through space is the same. If you are driving in a car and you draw a circle in the air with your finger, do you have to apply more effort or change your speed depending where you are in the circle? As long as the car is traveling at a steady speed, you don't need to make any adjustments to the effort applied.

 You would have to actually show an experiment to prove your point because by drawing a circle around a moving object, you are leaving out the detail that something is then moving around that circle, and that circle has a specific place in time being the "car" is moving forward. If you draw a circle around a moving car the car will eventually run into it.

The moon only moves in a circle when spoken about in relation to the Earth (actually an ellipse, but we'll stick with circle for now). If you were to watch the Earth/moon pair from an outside perspective (like say from the sun) you would see the moon inscribing more of a helical shape around the Earth. Just like what you would get if you were to twirl your finger in a circle while inside of a moving vehicle. It still looks like a circle from your perspective (Earth) but it doesn't look like much of one to anyone outside of the vehicle. The back of the care will also never run into your circle tracing finger because it's moving at the same pace. Just like the Earth/Moon duo.

 Thank you very much for your kind response. What I seem to not be able to grasp is why would your one compare "a person inside of a moving car" and what it is I have described above. I would be a stationary object inside of moving vehicle, but what happens when I decide to move inside the car? Doesn't the space I occupy change compared to if I never moved? I would have moved forward changing not only the space I occupy compared to if I didn't move, but my perception to everything else around me would change also. Aren't we also forgetting for your theory to work, gravity would have to be the force that keeps the moon where it is as the moon makes his orbit around us.

[Curious Squirrel]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

Because their speed through space is the same. If you are driving in a car and you draw a circle in the air with your finger, do you have to apply more effort or change your speed depending where you are in the circle? As long as the car is traveling at a steady speed, you don't need to make any adjustments to the effort applied.

 You would have to actually show an experiment to prove your point because by drawing a circle around a moving object, you are leaving out the detail that something is then moving around that circle, and that circle has a specific place in time being the "car" is moving forward. If you draw a circle around a moving car the car will eventually run into it.

The moon only moves in a circle when spoken about in relation to the Earth (actually an ellipse, but we'll stick with circle for now). If you were to watch the Earth/moon pair from an outside perspective (like say from the sun) you would see the moon inscribing more of a helical shape around the Earth. Just like what you would get if you were to twirl your finger in a circle while inside of a moving vehicle. It still looks like a circle from your perspective (Earth) but it doesn't look like much of one to anyone outside of the vehicle. The back of the care will also never run into your circle tracing finger because it's moving at the same pace. Just like the Earth/Moon duo.

 Thank you very much for your kind response. What I seem to not be able to grasp is why would your one compare "a person inside of a moving car" and what it is I have described above. I would be a stationary object inside of moving vehicle, but what happens when I decide to move inside the car? Doesn't the space I occupy change compared to if I never moved? I would have moved forward changing not only the space I occupy compared to if I didn't move, but my perception to everything else around me would change also. Aren't we also forgetting for your theory to work, gravity would have to be the force that keeps the moon where it is as the moon makes his orbit around us.

I'm not sure I get just what it is your asking. Sorry. I'll do my best to explain based on what I'm getting.

First off, yes indeed in RE the moon is held in it's location and orbit by gravity. The same force that holds the Earth in orbit around the sun. The attraction between Earth and moon is greater than moon and sun because of vicinity (and a few other things, but that's the major/basic one) which is why it orbits us and not the sun.

As for the rest, are you asking why we're comparing someone inside of a moving car to the Earth and moon? I was using making a circle inside of the car as an easy to grasp example. If you like you could consider a car with a sunroof, and you stick a ball on a string out through the top and swing it around in a circle while you zoom down a hypothetical highway with no air resistance. The string would represent the pull of gravity, the ball the moon and the car the Earth. From the car you see the moon making a circle around you, even though it makes a very different shape to any observer watching from outside of the car. Technically once the 'circle' is completed the ball is no longer in position to finish the actual circle it started, but if you asked anyone in the car if it was making circles they would likely say yes.

[StinkyOne]

Hello everyone,
                      I am a currency trader who spends most of his time reading up on flat earth theories and came across one all by myself.  In the theory we have all been taught in school, the Earth rotates around the sun and of course the moon around the Earth. However, how is it possible for the Moon to maintain a fixed distance from Earth when the moons speed would have to vary significantly depending on where the moon is compared to Earth and the direction in which Earth is moving.  Example:

While the moon rotates around the earth and is directly in front of it, wouldn't the moon then suddenly have to speed up in order to maintain the distance between itself and Earth? just as it would have to greatly speed up when the moon is "trailing" Earth? Any answer would be greatly appreciated because my head is now starting to hurt!

Because their speed through space is the same. If you are driving in a car and you draw a circle in the air with your finger, do you have to apply more effort or change your speed depending where you are in the circle? As long as the car is traveling at a steady speed, you don't need to make any adjustments to the effort applied.

 You would have to actually show an experiment to prove your point because by drawing a circle around a moving object, you are leaving out the detail that something is then moving around that circle, and that circle has a specific place in time being the "car" is moving forward. If you draw a circle around a moving car the car will eventually run into it.

The moon only moves in a circle when spoken about in relation to the Earth (actually an ellipse, but we'll stick with circle for now). If you were to watch the Earth/moon pair from an outside perspective (like say from the sun) you would see the moon inscribing more of a helical shape around the Earth. Just like what you would get if you were to twirl your finger in a circle while inside of a moving vehicle. It still looks like a circle from your perspective (Earth) but it doesn't look like much of one to anyone outside of the vehicle. The back of the care will also never run into your circle tracing finger because it's moving at the same pace. Just like the Earth/Moon duo.

 Thank you very much for your kind response. What I seem to not be able to grasp is why would your one compare "a person inside of a moving car" and what it is I have described above. I would be a stationary object inside of moving vehicle, but what happens when I decide to move inside the car? Doesn't the space I occupy change compared to if I never moved? I would have moved forward changing not only the space I occupy compared to if I didn't move, but my perception to everything else around me would change also. Aren't we also forgetting for your theory to work, gravity would have to be the force that keeps the moon where it is as the moon makes his orbit around us.

You have to keep in mind, these are two bodies moving at the same speed. (and not accelerating) From the point of view of an outside observer also traveling at the same speed, it can be said that the Earth and moon are stationary. The car analogy comes into play because you are NOT a stationary object in a moving car. You are traveling just as fast as the car. It is the same with the Earth and moon. The Earth is not speeding away from the moon. If the moon suddenly stopped in its orbit, it would not fall behind. It would continue to travel along with the Earth.

[douglips]

Instead of a car, imagine a jumbo jet with two aisles and connecting walkways at the front and back. You can walk laps around the plane just the same whether it is on the ground or in the air.