[DoNiE]

A question first.....at which point do we escape the spin? I would guess a particular height, once we are out of the spin I assume we can see the whole earth rotate under us in 24 hours. If we go up and it doesn't then the earth is not following the model which was described in school

It makes little sense to travel by plane over the spinning ball, why not just go up wait there for how ever long then come back down when the rotation has completed, would make more sense to have waiting platforms in the region where the spin is not present. we could be catapulted upto the platform to wait the required spin time then jump down.

Maybe ive missed something but it makes little sense to fly 22 hours from the uk to Australia when the earth can spin you there in 12. hmm

Hope you're a troll and this isn't serious...

You are traveling at the same speed as the Earth. If you're in a plane and jump in the aisle, does the plane move ahead without you??

Not a regular forum guy, to me a troll is that thing in cartoons with the club that lives under the bridge trying to scare kids nope im just a regular guy trying to make sense of all this, again apologizes if my science level is too low and I make mistakes, just trying to wrap my head around this so here goes again,

if I were to take a rocket up at the point I left the ground I should start decelerating slightly, in the air on the way up I will still be dragged along (as the air is being dragged) however I should slow slightly, my question is when you get to the magic height when your neither in the air / atmosphere you are floating in space traveling still at some speed with the spin because you didnt slow completly, so we could use some kind of jet to slow yourself from the spin you could watch the earth rotate under is that right?

If your on something traveling at 1000mph with no wind Shields you feel the wind, why on the earth can we travel at 1000 and not feel this wind, we can travel at the pole and the winds the same, does the equator have a windshield, im not taking the piss im actually trying to understand it

[StinkyOne]

A question first.....at which point do we escape the spin? I would guess a particular height, once we are out of the spin I assume we can see the whole earth rotate under us in 24 hours. If we go up and it doesn't then the earth is not following the model which was described in school

It makes little sense to travel by plane over the spinning ball, why not just go up wait there for how ever long then come back down when the rotation has completed, would make more sense to have waiting platforms in the region where the spin is not present. we could be catapulted upto the platform to wait the required spin time then jump down.

Maybe ive missed something but it makes little sense to fly 22 hours from the uk to Australia when the earth can spin you there in 12. hmm

Hope you're a troll and this isn't serious...

You are traveling at the same speed as the Earth. If you're in a plane and jump in the aisle, does the plane move ahead without you??

Not a regular forum guy, to me a troll is that thing in cartoons with the club that lives under the bridge trying to scare kids nope im just a regular guy trying to make sense of all this, again apologizes if my science level is too low and I make mistakes, just trying to wrap my head around this so here goes again,

if I were to take a rocket up at the point I left the ground I should start decelerating slightly, in the air on the way up I will still be dragged along (as the air is being dragged) however I should slow slightly, my question is when you get to the magic height when your neither in the air / atmosphere you are floating in space traveling still at some speed with the spin because you didnt slow completly, so we could use some kind of jet to slow yourself from the spin you could watch the earth rotate under is that right?

If your on something traveling at 1000mph with no wind Shields you feel the wind, why on the earth can we travel at 1000 and not feel this wind, we can travel at the pole and the winds the same, does the equator have a windshield, im not taking the piss im actually trying to understand it

I'll try to be more specific - EVERYTHING on Earth is rotating at roughly the same speed. The air, land, water, plants and animals.

Keep in mind that at the poles the rotation is very slow. If you stood on the south pole (north is ice and water), it would take you 24 hours to make a complete circle.

[Pete Svarrior]

So, Pete. What's wrong with Geek's logic? You make yours understandably deficient, but let's hear the rationale for your stance on his.

3DGeek emptily asserts that FET dictates something which it doesn't. This is equivalent to me emptily asserting something nonsensical about RET. The only difference is that you're familiar enough with RET to spot the nonesense, whilst you're willing to take 3DG's word for it

Pete's problem is the same as Tom's, he is afraid to acknowledge anything that could prove him wrong.  He makes an arrogant statement and he's gone.

Eh. Normally I'm just busy. I spread myself too thin and so I lose track of things. If you really crave my input on something, or if you feel that I've left a discussion prematurely, you could just PM me and ask what's up.

[xenotolerance]

I mean, he doesn't though. if the Earth were flat, and the moon 3000 miles above it, observers from different continents would see different sides of it.

Him pointing this out is not equivalent to you basically saying "ur retarted" but in a way that passes the low content test.

[Pete Svarrior]

I mean, he doesn't though. if the Earth were flat, and the moon 3000 miles above it, observers from different continents would see different sides of it.

Clearly, we disagree strongly about this. I wish your personal FE model the best of success, but it won't affect us.

[xenotolerance]

bro

this is the thing we were on about in the other thread. it is incorrect and misleading to claim that the 3000-mile altitude moon doesn't represent this website overall. and looking into the details just makes it worse.

Imagine a green arrow suspended horizontally above your head pointing to the North. Standing 50 feet to the South of the arrow it is pointing "downwards" towards the Northern horizon.

Make the floating arrow green on bottom, red on the right side, and blue on the left side. From directly underneath, it's all green. From a few feet to either side, you can see both green and another color evenly split. The higher up it is, the farther to either side you would have to go to see 50/50 another color. If it's 3000 miles high, you would see different combinations of colors based on your position, within the scale of the Earth. (If it's 240,000 miles high this is obviously still the case in theory, but you have to go farther to one side than is possible on this planet.)

Disagree strongly with me all you like. It doesn't change how wrong your site's model is.