[garygreen]

This seems like an incredible amount of effort.  Thank you.

thork makes a good point here.

thanks, pardisfla.

[xasop]

Please don't let this turn into a Thork thread.

[Cain]

I've gotchu chief

[honk]

why am I still banned

you keep banning me on a whim and leaving me banned

[juner]

I unbanned you.

[xasop]

you keep banning me on a whim

on a whim

Dec 01 21:29:23 *       Saddamoid has joined
Dec 01 21:29:33 <Saddamoid>     Q predicted this
Dec 01 21:29:46 *       Saddamoid has quit ("The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io")

Have you considered not doing shit like this if you don't want to be banned?

[honk]

My God, a shitpost! A shitpost, on IRC! The gravest of all offenses!

[xasop]

My God, a shitpost! A shitpost, on IRC! The gravest of all offenses!

I really don't care whether you want to stop or not. I can keep banning you if that's what you prefer, I don't mind.

[honk]

You just admitted that you banned me for multiple days for a single shitpost, something that literally every member does many times on a daily basis without consequence. But you're the reasonable one here, of course. I'm sure this exchange will convince the 0% of regulars here who don't already know about your self-sustaining grudge against me of your righteousness.

[Cain]

Another example of admin abuse ruining this fine society.

[Pete Svarrior]

ITT: Saddam really wants to talk to people who don't want him to talk to them*. His way of persuasion? Talk some more.

* - In the current format

[garygreen]

tbh i will never understand why y'all constantly bend over backward to make saddam feel as unwelcome as possible.  he doesn't do anything that the rest of us don't do...all the time.

how is what saddam got banned for any different than rushy and i spamming about satisfactory alpha keys literally every day? 

or
<Crudblud>YUH
<beardo>YUH
<junker>YUH
<Franklin>YUH

or the numerous times rushy and i have spammed "Q predicted this."

[juner]

tbh i will never understand why y'all constantly bend over backward to make saddam feel as unwelcome as possible.  he doesn't do anything that the rest of us don't do...all the time.

how is what saddam got banned for any different than rushy and i spamming about satisfactory alpha keys literally every day? 

or
<Crudblud>YUH
<beardo>YUH
<junker>YUH
<Franklin>YUH

or the numerous times rushy and i have spammed "Q predicted this."

Gary is correct.

[Pete Svarrior]

The "it was just a single shitpost" narrative is one I disagree with. The reason Saddam attracts the ire of many regulars is the endless monologues about stuff no one else wants to talk about. He'll butt in in the middle of a conversation and insist that we must now discuss the most recent Marvel movie, and how many black people there were in it.

In that way, he's really no different from your standard "HOLY FUK ERTH IS ROUND AHAHAH" noobs. We're not going to change everyone to suit his conversational, uh, style.

[Rushy]

Nearly every IRC user at some point monologues about things no one else is particularly interested in. Take Parsifal's constant lectures on the intricacies of obscure operating systems, for example, or my ongoing obsession with virtual spacecraft. If we banned people for spamming memes or going on monologues we'd end up with a deserted channel.

I'm all for the "Saddam is dumb lmao" meme most of the time but banning Saddam for days for doing what every other user does is pointless.

[Pete Svarrior]

Oh, I agree, and I frequently accuse Parsifal of "doing a Saddam" for that exact reason. Nonetheless, I would argue that Saddam is the worst offender here, in terms of frequency. He rarely does anything else.

[honk]

y'all

many regulars

I've mentioned this in the past, but to reiterate, I have no issues with the community at large. My problem begins and ends with Parsifal. There are members who are easily led into joining in when he starts in on me, and there are members who aren't particularly sympathetic to my position, but the only person who truly puts in the effort to ensure that the griefing never ends is Parsifal. If literally any other person were in charge of IRC - Pete, Rushy, Blanko, anyone - there would be no problems whatsoever. Nobody else cares about me that much.

The rest of what Pete is saying is, well, pretty obviously false. I mean, that my discussions (discussions, not monologues ) are annoying to him, I don't doubt, but that doesn't make them more frequent than they really are, and it doesn't make them low-quality. Should my discussions not meet your particular criteria for a riveting read, that's really neither here nor there. You are a moderator, not a curator.

[xasop]

I've mentioned this in the past, but to reiterate, I have no issues with the community at large. My problem begins and ends with Parsifal.

Have you considered that this irrational outlook might be exacerbating the problem? Whenever I actually try to talk to you, you just ignore me, which is why I no longer bother.

[Pete Svarrior]

My problem begins and ends with Parsifal.

It doesn't. Most of the time, it's me who bans you. Indeed, the last two times you've lost your shit at Parsifal, it was because I banned you from IRC. Let us not forget the Great Fucking Off.

discussions

It takes two people to have a discussion.

Should my discussions not meet your particular criteria for a riveting read, that's really neither here nor there.

Indeed, that is neither here nor there. As I said, the problem is your complete disregard for the discussions already taking place when you demand that the channel be hijacked to discuss the latest capeshit movie. If people ignore you and try to carry on with their discussion, you just keep spamming your shit until you get banned. Try not doing that and see if your situation improves.

You are a moderator, not a curator.

You're mistaking the IRC channel (which is a small space for regulars to enjoy) for the forum (which is free and open).

[Rama Set]

If this problem is to be solved both sides are going to have to make a commitment to trying something different. irc isn’t so special that this shouldn’t be solved.