[juner]

yes he could have used interdiction instead, but this message is more clear and he loves attention.

He also loves to look like a bad ass by ignoring pesky little things that would get in his way, like the rule of law or the Constitution.

remind me which part of this action was against '''international''' law or the US constitution again.

[Action80]

The media is currently making a big deal out of a video where a DoJ official supposedly "admits" that the plan is to redact the names of Republicans on the Epstein list. Remembering that this video is the product of the dishonest faux-journalist James O'Keefe, however, it's important to use some critical thinking and try to figure out what's really going on here. O'Keefe has used this tactic of sending attractive women to coax "admissions" out of his targets while on dates with them before. An isolated admission from that kind of setting can't be relied on, for the simple fact that people will say anything to get laid. I'm willing to bet that a solid chunk of people working for the government could be cajoled into "admitting" that FET is entirely true in a similar setting.

The only actually interesting part of the story is the fact that O'Keefe has turned on Trump, which goes to show how thoroughly he's flubbed this issue.

I thought the idea of turning on Trump was the goal?

[Action80]

Trump loves tobacco cartels.

FTFY

[Action80]

"could cost billions of dollars for a cosmetic change ."

"will this cost millions of dollars..."

Politico at its finest.

[markjo]

yes he could have used interdiction instead, but this message is more clear and he loves attention.

He also loves to look like a bad ass by ignoring pesky little things that would get in his way, like the rule of law or the Constitution.

remind me which part of this action was against '''international''' law or the US constitution again.

The part about due process.

“If the circumstances around this strike are exactly as the administration describes them, it would amount to an extrajudicial execution, prohibited under international law,” she said.

[Lord Dave]

I saw someone ask a very pointed question:
Why did they waste space with 11 people?  You don't need 11 guys to drive a boat full of drugs and the extra guys just means less drugs can be onboard.  So why 11?

Could this have been human trafficking?  Smuggling illegals into America?  Or wherever they were going?

[juner]

The part about due process.

“If the circumstances around this strike are exactly as the administration describes them, it would amount to an extrajudicial execution, prohibited under international law,” she said.

and how many times have you spoken about your deep care for due process before the last 8 months (that talking point literally does not apply here no matter how hard you or others may try). they got processed fully legally and the outcome is exactly what it should be. may as well ask somali pirates about due process, nerd. maritime 'law' and also just common sense apply here.

[juner]

I saw someone ask a very pointed question:
Why did they waste space with 11 people?  You don't need 11 guys to drive a boat full of drugs and the extra guys just means less drugs can be onboard.  So why 11?

Could this have been human trafficking?  Smuggling illegals into America?  Or wherever they were going?

dave there are very creative ways to get the drugs where they are destined for which involves humans. don't look up the extent of what drug mules will do. the cartel values those bricks of raw over any of the lives on board.

[Lord Dave]

I saw someone ask a very pointed question:
Why did they waste space with 11 people?  You don't need 11 guys to drive a boat full of drugs and the extra guys just means less drugs can be onboard.  So why 11?

Could this have been human trafficking?  Smuggling illegals into America?  Or wherever they were going?

dave there are very creative ways to get the drugs where they are destined for which involves humans. don't look up the extent of what drug mules will do. the cartel values those bricks of raw over any of the lives on board.

And there's no reason to have those humans on the boat when they could more easily be at the destination.  And you'd need alot more of them.  11 won't cut it.  Not for that many bricks.

[honk]

I thought the idea of turning on Trump was the goal?

I don't know what you mean by this.

[juner]

And there's no reason to have those humans on the boat when they could more easily be at the destination.  And you'd need alot more of them.  11 won't cut it.  Not for that many bricks.

if you want to deep dive about the logistics of drug running that could be its own thread my dude. they have a lot more than 11 meatsacks, and a lot more boats. they aren't going to put it on a freight boat because losing a dozen humans and some product is better than losing all your humans and all your product. it is simply a numbers game.

[Lord Dave]

And there's no reason to have those humans on the boat when they could more easily be at the destination.  And you'd need alot more of them.  11 won't cut it.  Not for that many bricks.

if you want to deep dive about the logistics of drug running that could be its own thread my dude. they have a lot more than 11 meatsacks, and a lot more boats. they aren't going to put it on a freight boat because losing a dozen humans and some product is better than losing all your humans and all your product. it is simply a numbers game.

Yes.
But that's not my questioning.
It's
Why are they putting 11 humans on a boat when 1 or 2 would be enough to get it where it needs to go AND you'd lose less if they get killed.

[juner]

Why are they putting 11 humans on a boat when 1 or 2 would be enough to get it where it needs to go AND you'd lose less if they get killed.

getting it where it needs to go when you reach solid ground is where you need humans. boating is usually the easy part. underground tunnels into san diego are how it happens a lot of the time. you can look it up if you are that interested in seeing how effective these things can be.

[Lord Dave]

Why are they putting 11 humans on a boat when 1 or 2 would be enough to get it where it needs to go AND you'd lose less if they get killed.

getting it where it needs to go when you reach solid ground is where you need humans. boating is usually the easy part. underground tunnels into san diego are how it happens a lot of the time. you can look it up if you are that interested in seeing how effective these things can be.

They weren't going to San Diego.  They were on the east coast, not west.  They were coming from Venezuela.  Destination: unknown but if it was going to San Diego, it's on the wrong side of the continent.

And while I'm sure you need people on the ground once the boat lands.. seems kinda stupid to not have the people receiving the drugs supply the Manpower since they should be locals and less suspicious than a bunch of Venezuelans in a foreign land.

Honestly, given the administrations very tight lipped information... I'm gonna think these were immigrants, not drug runners.

[juner]

@memeDave. i am walking away from this topic because you are not getting what i am laying down. and that is a good thing.

[Rushy]

I'm gonna think these were immigrants, not drug runners.

What's wrong with blowing up immigrants?

[Lord Dave]

I'm gonna think these were immigrants, not drug runners.

What's wrong with blowing up immigrants?

Not being honest about it.  How can we deter illegals from using boats if we don't tell them that we'll blow em up?

@memeDave. i am walking away from this topic because you are not getting what i am laying down. and that is a good thing.

I'm getting the subtext you're trying to throw out: that you work for drug enforcement or you have done it.  I'm just choosing to ignore it as I think its a bait.

[Rushy]

I'm gonna think these were immigrants, not drug runners.

What's wrong with blowing up immigrants?

Not being honest about it.  How can we deter illegals from using boats if we don't tell them that we'll blow em up?

Does deterrence matter if we're blowing them up either way?

[Lord Dave]

I'm gonna think these were immigrants, not drug runners.

What's wrong with blowing up immigrants?

Not being honest about it.  How can we deter illegals from using boats if we don't tell them that we'll blow em up?

Does deterrence matter if we're blowing them up either way?

Sure.
Get em to stop trying so we save the ammo.  Those missiles are expensive.