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« Reply #12420 on: March 05, 2025, 11:46:51 AM »
All of the TDS ilk are angered that Trump no longer wants to support this type of social interaction:



So there you have it. The Nazis in Ukraine are forcibly KIDNAPPING Ukrainian people and making them go fight in this stupid, senseless war, and nearly all the admins, moderators, and members of this forum, somehow find some way to deny that Ukraine is not truly being run by Nazis.

If Zelensky wasn't a part of this, he would have shown up, hat-in-hand, and would have truly asked for help.
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« Reply #12421 on: March 05, 2025, 12:29:01 PM »
All of the TDS ilk are angered that Trump no longer wants to support this type of social interaction:



So there you have it. The Nazis in Ukraine are forcibly KIDNAPPING Ukrainian people and making them go fight in this stupid, senseless war, and nearly all the admins, moderators, and members of this forum, somehow find some way to deny that Ukraine is not truly being run by Nazis.

If Zelensky wasn't a part of this, he would have shown up, hat-in-hand, and would have truly asked for help.

You mean the Draft?

Also, yes, Zelensky should have bowed, kiss Trump's shoes, and begged for any deal he could make even if Russia could break it without consequences.

But Trump wasn't gonna help him.  Never was. And Zelensky isn't gonna take his shit.  I wouldn't either, not when this is all a show for Trump.
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« Reply #12422 on: March 05, 2025, 12:55:09 PM »
LD wants everyone to believe that multiple people in the Ukraine are "draft dodgers!"

COMEDY GOLD!!!

You can't make this shit up!!!

LMMFAO
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« Reply #12423 on: March 05, 2025, 02:00:38 PM »
And here is Uncle Hairy Legs the person responsible for all of the bullshit occurring in the region, urging Zelensky to up the numbers of dead and wounded in the area.

"A senior Biden administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private consultations, said Wednesday that the outgoing Democratic administration wants Ukraine to lower the mobilization age to 18 from the current age of 25 to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia."

Who, in their right mind, would think this way?

I think one of the ilk was writing here in this thread about the need to "grow up."

I dunno know about you, but I was always taught that grown-ups talk things out, rather than start fights with other countries, like Ukraine did when they started this shit at the behest of the the Bush/Clinton/Obama triumvirate.
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« Reply #12424 on: March 05, 2025, 02:15:55 PM »
are people still cheering trump on as he steers us into a recession in 6 weeks? this is really weird
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« Reply #12425 on: March 05, 2025, 02:23:08 PM »
^"steering us into a recession..."

LMMFAO!!!

MORE COMEDY GOLD!!!

Energy prices are lowering, manufacturing jobs are coming back, and soon the markets will adjust.

I think the economic doomsayers were doomsaying prior to Trump occupying the WH this time around, mirite?
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« Reply #12426 on: March 05, 2025, 03:48:01 PM »
Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

TFES Wiki Occam's Razor page, by Tom: "What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter to an escape velocity of 7 miles per second"

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« Reply #12427 on: March 05, 2025, 07:26:43 PM »
My Norwegian Kroner exchange rate as well as my food bill would disagree with that assessment.

Ah yes, I forgot, Norway doesn't experience inflation.

Several hundred times is the EU's entire defense budget and then some.  America is literally the highest spending country in the world when it comes to defense.

And? You think the EU can win a war with their peacetime budget? In order to go to war, you have to increase your war budget. I don't how America's defense expenditures matter here. If we want to buy lots of tanks, we're not obligated to give them away to corrupt eastern European shitholes just because some other equally corrupt shithole invaded them.

Which is not what I wrote.

Yes it is.

Yeah, you're right.  I see the most recent charts now.
Fortunately winter is over so it should drop again.

You think they won't keep buying gas to refill their now-quite-empty reserves?

Face it, Dave, the EU doesn't actually care about Ukraine. It's performative rhetoric to appease voters who, ironically, also do not actually care about Ukraine. The EU, the Europeans themselves, and everyone else on the planet is fully aware that no modernized nation is actually under threat from Russia. No NATO countries are genuinely afraid of Regional-Power-Russia. It's a farce.
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« Reply #12428 on: March 05, 2025, 07:49:22 PM »
My Norwegian Kroner exchange rate as well as my food bill would disagree with that assessment.

Ah yes, I forgot, Norway doesn't experience inflation.
Oh no, I'm simply countering your claim that the dollar has lost value as the reason.  Unless you want to claim that every currency on earth is The Dollar and thus loses value/inflation hits simultaniously. The only other explination is that something, beyond America, caused the large inflation spike.

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Several hundred times is the EU's entire defense budget and then some.  America is literally the highest spending country in the world when it comes to defense.

And? You think the EU can win a war with their peacetime budget? In order to go to war, you have to increase your war budget. I don't how America's defense expenditures matter here. If we want to buy lots of tanks, we're not obligated to give them away to corrupt eastern European shitholes just because some other equally corrupt shithole invaded them.
Uhh.. they are increasing their budgets.  And as someone who lives in a bordering country... yeah, its an actual concern.  With America now cheering for Russia, NATO knows damn well that if Russia attacks, there is a VERY good chance that America will not only ignore the alliance but actively help Russia.  Our ONLY saving grace is that a war on multiple fronts never ends well.  That and Russia has already shown that its army is ill equipped and poorly trained.


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Yeah, you're right.  I see the most recent charts now.
Fortunately winter is over so it should drop again.

You think they won't keep buying gas to refill their now-quite-empty reserves?

Face it, Dave, the EU doesn't actually care about Ukraine. It's performative rhetoric to appease voters who, ironically, also do not actually care about Ukraine. The EU, the Europeans themselves, and everyone else on the planet is fully aware that no modernized nation is actually under threat from Russia. No NATO countries are genuinely afraid of Regional-Power-Russia. It's a farce.
Ukraine was a major grains exporter to Europe so yeah, they care.  Also, Russia being bigger and more powerful is bad for Europe.  I get that Trump wouldn't care, but we do.  We do NOT want Russia to get bolder.  We saw what happened in WW2 when Germany got bold.



LD wants everyone to believe that multiple people in the Ukraine are "draft dodgers!"

COMEDY GOLD!!!

You can't make this shit up!!!

LMMFAO
And here is Uncle Hairy Legs the person responsible for all of the bullshit occurring in the region, urging Zelensky to up the numbers of dead and wounded in the area.

"A senior Biden administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private consultations, said Wednesday that the outgoing Democratic administration wants Ukraine to lower the mobilization age to 18 from the current age of 25 to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia."

Who, in their right mind, would think this way?

I think one of the ilk was writing here in this thread about the need to "grow up."

I dunno know about you, but I was always taught that grown-ups talk things out, rather than start fights with other countries, like Ukraine did when they started this shit at the behest of the the Bush/Clinton/Obama triumvirate.

*looks at Vietnam draft dodgers like Trump* Yes... yes I think Draft dodgers exist in great numbers regardless.  War is scary.  DYING is scary.  You really think everyone is going to just drop their lives and enthusiastically go to the front line with almost no training and probably die?  Not everyone is brave.  Like you, I suspect.

As for the draft age... who would think this way? Uhh... America?  And anyone whose despirate.  You seem to be under some odd thinking that Russia is going to be a benevolent ruler, giving out candy and free healthcare to their new, conquored land.  Forgiving everyone who fought against them and allowing them to keep their culture completely intact.

What exactly do you think would happen if Ukraine unconditionally surrendered?
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« Reply #12429 on: March 05, 2025, 10:21:33 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/03/05/trump-grants-automakers-one-month-exemption-from-tariffs.html

the stable genius walks back tariffs after a day.



Now he's threatening to kill the people of Gaza. very normal
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« Reply #12430 on: March 06, 2025, 01:58:31 AM »
Oh no, I'm simply countering your claim that the dollar has lost value as the reason.  Unless you want to claim that every currency on earth is The Dollar and thus loses value/inflation hits simultaniously. The only other explination is that something, beyond America, caused the large inflation spike.

If only there were something you could look up to determine factual information instead of "I looked at the prices in my grocery store."

Ukraine was a major grains exporter to Europe so yeah, they care.  Also, Russia being bigger and more powerful is bad for Europe.  I get that Trump wouldn't care, but we do.  We do NOT want Russia to get bolder.  We saw what happened in WW2 when Germany got bold.

Ukraine hasn't stopped being a major grains exporter and the EU, as well as Europe overall, has proven they don't actually care where their resources come from. Whether they pay a Ukrainian or a Russian for grain and gas makes no difference.

"This is just like Germany in WWII" screams that your understanding of modern geopolitics is primary school tier. Do you get all your news from Xitter and BlueBalls?

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« Reply #12431 on: March 06, 2025, 11:26:09 AM »
With America now cheering for Russia, NATO knows damn well that if Russia attacks, there is a VERY good chance that America will not only ignore the alliance but actively help Russia.
This take is utterly delusional.
Our ONLY saving grace is that a war on multiple fronts never ends well.  That and Russia has already shown that its army is ill equipped and poorly trained.
Hilarious self-own of the delusion!
Ukraine was a major grains exporter to Europe so yeah, they care.  Also, Russia being bigger and more powerful is bad for Europe.  I get that Trump wouldn't care, but we do.  We do NOT want Russia to get bolder.  We saw what happened in WW2 when Germany got bold.
RUSSIA, RUSsia, russia...

LD, hire a new ghostwriter, please...I'm begging you...
*looks at Vietnam draft dodgers like Trump* Yes... yes I think Draft dodgers exist in great numbers regardless.  War is scary.  DYING is scary.  You really think everyone is going to just drop their lives and enthusiastically go to the front line with almost no training and probably die?  Not everyone is brave.  Like you, I suspect.
Trump never "dodged," the draft.

We are all heartened to read of your support for forced conscription and kidnapping.

What exactly do you think would happen if Ukraine unconditionally surrendered?
Not one single, reasonable, person thinks or even considers Ukraine will "unconditionally surrender." If Zelensky refuses to negotiate, he will probably be "disappeared," like he should.
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« Reply #12432 on: March 06, 2025, 01:16:04 PM »
Oh no, I'm simply countering your claim that the dollar has lost value as the reason.  Unless you want to claim that every currency on earth is The Dollar and thus loses value/inflation hits simultaniously. The only other explination is that something, beyond America, caused the large inflation spike.

If only there were something you could look up to determine factual information instead of "I looked at the prices in my grocery store."
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1404145/us-dollar-index-historical-chart/
Like this showing the dollar having been below 100 until after Trump left office then steadily climbing until peaking in 2022 then leveling off at a little over 100 since?
Or did you have something else in mind?

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Ukraine was a major grains exporter to Europe so yeah, they care.  Also, Russia being bigger and more powerful is bad for Europe.  I get that Trump wouldn't care, but we do.  We do NOT want Russia to get bolder.  We saw what happened in WW2 when Germany got bold.

Ukraine hasn't stopped being a major grains exporter and the EU, as well as Europe overall, has proven they don't actually care where their resources come from. Whether they pay a Ukrainian or a Russian for grain and gas makes no difference.

"This is just like Germany in WWII" screams that your understanding of modern geopolitics is primary school tier. Do you get all your news from Xitter and BlueBalls?
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/how-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-has-further-aggravated-the-global-food-crisis/
29% drop is pretty significant.

It makes a difference if prices are high due to supply issues.


So, Russia took Crimea in 2014.  Then invaded Ukraine AGAIN in 2022 to take more.  What do you call that?
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« Reply #12433 on: March 06, 2025, 04:26:03 PM »
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFsyXbvuc0Y/

Half of you like the horse. You weirdos.
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« Reply #12434 on: March 06, 2025, 04:55:49 PM »
our dear stable genius continues losing the trade war. that he started for no reason. after just days.

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« Reply #12435 on: March 06, 2025, 05:32:24 PM »
Wow.
It's almost like Tariffs aren't the most beautiful word to actual business owners who rely on imports.
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« Reply #12436 on: March 06, 2025, 05:56:56 PM »
Wow.
It's almost like Tariffs aren't the most beautiful word to actual business owners who rely on imports.

Considering that "rely on imports" generally means utilizing cheap third world sweatshops at the cost of American industry, they will just have to deal with it.

Ultimately there is an effort for the combination of the increase in tariffs and government downsizing to replace income tax entirely, which means that tariffs would be going up to a few hundred percent. 25% is nothing so far. However, the companies are selling items for over 10x the cost of production anyway, which means that they can weather high tarrifs.

The elimination of income taxes would be a great thing for America, and create an economic boom rivaling what occurred in the the 1950's.
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« Reply #12437 on: March 06, 2025, 06:49:00 PM »


yes we should bring back tax policy of the 50s

The effective federal corporate income tax rate:

1950: 50%
1960: 37%
1970: 32%
1980: 20%
1990: 25%
2000: 20%
2010: 15%
2020: 13%

the fact is higher marginal tax rates on the wealthy and corporations strengthens the middle and lower class. you might think this is bad or not fair, but it is better outcomes for more people. 
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« Reply #12438 on: March 07, 2025, 06:36:41 AM »
Trump is going the wrong direction on this one.



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« Reply #12439 on: March 07, 2025, 11:47:16 AM »
https://thepienews.com/trump-threatens-to-arrest-and-deport-student-protestors/

What action posted but text.
Shocked you can disagree but what do you expect? 

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