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Re: Trump
« Reply #12220 on: February 13, 2025, 07:03:09 PM »
Sure, I'm willing to sacrifice hypothetical lives who are saved from a hypothetical working future drug to get fraud out of government. Some of them may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

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« Reply #12221 on: February 13, 2025, 08:41:18 PM »
Sure, I'm willing to sacrifice hypothetical lives who are saved from a hypothetical working future drug to get fraud out of government. Some of them may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
It's interesting how much you lot care about embryos.
And how little you care about humans when they've actually been born.
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« Reply #12222 on: February 13, 2025, 10:40:22 PM »
Sure, I'm willing to sacrifice hypothetical lives who are saved from a hypothetical working future drug to get fraud out of government. Some of them may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
It's interesting how much you lot care about embryos.
And how little you care about humans when they've actually been born.

The loss of hypothetical lives of people who can't take a hypothetical drug, which for some reason there is no alternative and no other country or organization is researching a treatment, isn't really the same thing as the at-will mass abortion of human life. One is a hypothetical loss of life, and the other is not.

But if you really need to query me on this as well, I have already given you the go ahead to abort your offspring in a previous thread.
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« Reply #12223 on: February 13, 2025, 10:43:55 PM »
Sure, I'm willing to sacrifice hypothetical lives who are saved from a hypothetical working future drug to get fraud out of government. Some of them may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

Has any fraud been found?
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« Reply #12224 on: February 14, 2025, 12:05:02 AM »
Sure, I'm willing to sacrifice hypothetical lives who are saved from a hypothetical working future drug to get fraud out of government. Some of them may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
What if you, or someone you care about, dies because one of those hypothetical working drugs didn't get a chance to become a real working drug?  Are you really willing to make that sacrifice?
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« Reply #12225 on: February 14, 2025, 01:54:51 AM »
I think the NIH and the CDC have both been proven to be frauds in their handling of issues relating to health.
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« Reply #12226 on: February 14, 2025, 05:12:50 AM »
I think the NIH and the CDC have both been proven to be frauds in their handling of issues relating to health.

Then I request that you not utilize anything they've approved or any recommendations they've made.
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« Reply #12227 on: February 14, 2025, 07:35:30 AM »
I have not and will not until changes are made.
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« Reply #12228 on: February 14, 2025, 08:50:59 AM »
I have not and will not until changes are made.

So you don't even wash your hands?  Eeewwww.
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« Reply #12229 on: February 14, 2025, 10:59:36 AM »
My parents taught me to wash my hands and neither have ever worked for the CDC or the NIH in their entire lives.

These organizations have only existed (officially) since 1946 and 1930, respectively.

The practice of hand washing for the mitigation of disease dates to the mid-19th century, but has been around since ancient times.
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« Reply #12230 on: February 14, 2025, 11:32:35 AM »
My parents taught me to wash my hands and neither have ever worked for the CDC or the NIH in their entire lives.

These organizations have only existed (officially) since 1946 and 1930, respectively.

The practice of hand washing for the mitigation of disease dates to the mid-19th century, but has been around since ancient times.
Yes, but they recommend hand washing.  And you said you wouldn't do anything they recommend.
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« Reply #12231 on: February 14, 2025, 11:56:15 AM »
Ooh, you got me.

Well played.

Take two cannolis from the kitty.

Just make sure you leave a receipt for their removal, so Musk can keep accurate track.
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« Reply #12232 on: February 14, 2025, 01:18:39 PM »
Ooh, you got me.

Well played.

Take two cannolis from the kitty.

Just make sure you leave a receipt for their removal, so Musk can keep accurate track.

So what you SHOULD write is...

"I only follow their recommendations for  the things I want to follow."
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« Reply #12233 on: February 14, 2025, 01:38:01 PM »
No, I wrote what I wrote and I wrote the reason why I wash my hands.

A blind squirrel at the NIH and/or CDC can still get a nut.

They used to be good at one time and now, they have just gone to total shit.

Started with the Fauci fella...
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« Reply #12234 on: February 14, 2025, 04:37:29 PM »
https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=7cd300eb-cf3f-47f5-90f1-9e66a8bc8d07&ref=404media.co

Yep, the people in charge of the nation's payment system have their website database wide open.
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« Reply #12235 on: February 14, 2025, 05:15:47 PM »
I do not think sharing a potential hack of a .gov website is a good idea.
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« Reply #12236 on: February 14, 2025, 06:01:40 PM »
I do not think sharing a potential hack of a .gov website is a good idea.
Potential?
No no no.  This IS a hack.  And, from what I read, a very easy one to do.

It's quite simple: Musk skimped on security and anyone with basic SQL injection scripts can insert anything they want.
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« Reply #12237 on: February 14, 2025, 06:23:20 PM »
I do not think sharing a potential hack of a .gov website is a good idea.
Potential?
No no no.  This IS a hack.  And, from what I read, a very easy one to do.

It's quite simple: Musk skimped on security and anyone with basic SQL injection scripts can insert anything they want.
Why would you share an actual hack of a government website on the forum?

How do you know this isn't a spoof?
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« Reply #12238 on: February 14, 2025, 06:37:21 PM »
I do not think sharing a potential hack of a .gov website is a good idea.
Potential?
No no no.  This IS a hack.  And, from what I read, a very easy one to do.

It's quite simple: Musk skimped on security and anyone with basic SQL injection scripts can insert anything they want.
Why would you share an actual hack of a government website on the forum?

How do you know this isn't a spoof?

Uhhh... A spoof?
Of the government website.
>_>
You can read the url yourself.  Or type it yourself.

As for sharing.
I'm sharing a government website.
It's not my fault the data the website uses has been easily compromised.
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« Reply #12239 on: February 14, 2025, 06:40:33 PM »
I thought the use of SQL injection was to spoof a site. I'm not sure.

I typed doge.gov and saw nothing your link shows.

It looks like your link has a "download" icon that is a potential step toward malware.

So, yeah. I think your link is a spoof that 404media.co put out and is not the actual doge.gov site.
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